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#1 YeOldeDrew

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Posted 17 July 2023 - 11:53 AM

Is there any particular reason why we're seeing conquest in the selection screen every other match? Is it just my terrible luck, or has the probability been changed? If so, can we please change it back to the way it was before? I'm really getting sick of playing conquest. I would even choose to play incursion over conquest.

I'm sorry to be so whiny, I've just played it 4 times in a row now, and I'm at my limit.

#2 crazytimes

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Posted 17 July 2023 - 12:51 PM

Conquest offers a bit of a spice up besides NASCAR in the Middle. Sometimes. At least we don't have conquest on old polar still- that could be decided by one team getting a couple of locust.

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Posted 17 July 2023 - 01:05 PM

I might be in the minority, but I prefer game modes that aren't just "kill the enemy team". I feel like it incentivizes a more mobile, run-and-gun match rather than another TurretWarrior Online snipe fest.

I wouldn't mind seeing the domination circle rotate between 2-3 positions on every map, some games it would be in the middle, but others it might be on one side or the other. I couldn't begin to speculate on the coding this would take, but it might spice up the matches and make players explore the oft unseen edges of the maps. Maybe even make the conquest sites shift around somewhat as well.

#4 YeOldeDrew

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Posted 17 July 2023 - 01:43 PM

So, I had a Snickers, and now I'm good. I guess my main gripe with cq is it spreads out the team 9 times out of 10. That always leads to getting wiped out. I prefer game types that encourage the team to stick together - i.e. one objective.

#5 Cyborne Elemental

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Posted 17 July 2023 - 02:37 PM

Conquest is better than Domination IMO.
If I wanted a rope around my neck.. I'd just get married.

#6 YeOldeDrew

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Posted 17 July 2023 - 03:00 PM

I already got the rope and the ring. I might as well have domination too. Posted Image

#7 sycocys

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Posted 17 July 2023 - 03:24 PM

View Postblastedmast3R, on 17 July 2023 - 11:53 AM, said:

I would even choose to play incursion over conquest.

Based on how often incursion gets picked I highly doubt that claim.

#8 Ihlrath

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Posted 17 July 2023 - 03:48 PM

There's been a lot of chatter that Conquest is sort of the natural anti-thesis of the sniper heavy matches we've been seeing the past few months. Sure a sniper can lock down things but if the rest of the team has to be mobile to keep from being beat pretty fast on caps, that sniper is general not able to sit still, camp out, cook some hot dogs on the camp fire and crack off shots across the entire map.

Sure they can do that, but they're going to get swarmed and not have any backup. So I imagine that the rate at which conquest comes up for a game choice will very quickly 'mysteriously' drop exponentially in an upcoming patch.

#9 Meep Meep

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Posted 17 July 2023 - 04:05 PM

While conquest might seem to be the anti nascar mode the winners in my games seem to be the ones that ignore the caps and go after the kills of scattered mechs then cap afterwards. As long as you get at least two caps it works great.

#10 TheCaptainJZ

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Posted 17 July 2023 - 06:24 PM

I haven't kept track but I feel I play Conquest, Assault, Domination, and Skirmish about all equally the same. I personally vote for any mode over Skirmish, because most matches are Skirmish anyway and the objective at least adds more flavor. Assault is pretty close to exactly the same as skirmish. I pick Incursion automatically when it comes up simply because it's far less common and I use it to build my multiplier just as a little minigame. If it actually wins, that's fine. Variety is the spice of life. It tends to play the same as Assault and Skirmish. I believe PGI also decreased the probability it would come up, and it's only supported on a subset of maps anyway, and none of the new ones, making it even less likely to be a choice.

#11 An6ryMan69

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Posted 18 July 2023 - 08:43 AM

Yep...conquest never gets my vote, period.

#12 YeOldeDrew

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Posted 18 July 2023 - 09:35 AM

View PostAn6ryMan69, on 18 July 2023 - 08:43 AM, said:

Yep...conquest never gets my vote, period.

The only way it gets mine is if I'm using a piranha. The best target is one all by himself.

#13 Meep Meep

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Posted 18 July 2023 - 11:06 AM

View Postblastedmast3R, on 18 July 2023 - 09:35 AM, said:

The only way it gets mine is if I'm using a piranha. The best target is one all by himself.


Unless its another pir with better aim. Posted Image

#14 SafeScanner

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Posted 18 July 2023 - 11:21 AM

View PostMeep Meep, on 18 July 2023 - 11:06 AM, said:


Unless its another pir with better aim. Posted Image


Or boated AC/PPC .....

#15 Tywren

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Posted 18 July 2023 - 10:02 PM

View Postcrazytimes, on 17 July 2023 - 12:51 PM, said:

Conquest offers a bit of a spice up besides NASCAR in the Middle. Sometimes. At least we don't have conquest on old polar still- that could be decided by one team getting a couple of locust.


Are you off your meds?!? Conquest is the textbook definition of NASCAR game play! Each team has a cap at their drop zone, one cap middle, one left side, and one right side. Everyone runs in a circle capping while the slow mechs slug it out for the middle cap. The only exceptions I can think of are Mining Collective, and Vitric Station which are set up in a X pattern.

#16 Kamiko Kross

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Posted 19 July 2023 - 12:32 PM

View Postblastedmast3R, on 17 July 2023 - 11:53 AM, said:

Is there any particular reason why we're seeing conquest in the selection screen every other match? Is it just my terrible luck, or has the probability been changed? If so, can we please change it back to the way it was before? I'm really getting sick of playing conquest. I would even choose to play incursion over conquest.

I'm sorry to be so whiny, I've just played it 4 times in a row now, and I'm at my limit.

I'm SICK of playing skirmish. I have never, ever voted for it-yet it remains my most played mode.
Where you are getting this from must be ab alternate reality, can you show me the way?

#17 PoohPuss

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Posted 19 July 2023 - 12:44 PM

View Postblastedmast3R, on 17 July 2023 - 11:53 AM, said:

Is there any particular reason why we're seeing conquest in the selection screen every other match? Is it just my terrible luck, or has the probability been changed? If so, can we please change it back to the way it was before? I'm really getting sick of playing conquest. I would even choose to play incursion over conquest.

I'm sorry to be so whiny, I've just played it 4 times in a row now, and I'm at my limit.


Just bad luck methinks. I get it pretty evenly.

#18 SafeScanner

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Posted 19 July 2023 - 03:37 PM

meh first match i had today was conquest, Capped 3 points spending 2 mins of my time doing nothing (no one contested) while everyone else was blasting each other at the end i got 5 kills and did 160 dmg ...... "Thrilling" cleanup job

2nd conquest fight was closer(and better) but it just turned into rotate then counter rotate

Edited by SafeScanner, 19 July 2023 - 03:38 PM.


#19 YeOldeDrew

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Posted 20 July 2023 - 06:42 PM

View PostMeep Meep, on 18 July 2023 - 11:06 AM, said:


Unless its another pir with better aim. Posted Image

Which, when I play, is very likely. Posted Image

#20 YeOldeDrew

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Posted 20 July 2023 - 06:50 PM

View PostKamiko Kross, on 19 July 2023 - 12:32 PM, said:

I'm SICK of playing skirmish. I have never, ever voted for it-yet it remains my most played mode.
Where you are getting this from must be ab alternate reality, can you show me the way?


IMO, skirmish isn't great either. Maybe my estimation is wrong, but in CQ, the objectives naturally separate the team and they head in different directions. Then it's just chance which team has more players in encounters across the map. Usually, the larger the group wins the skirmish. From there, the team who has more kills generally wins, provided they are able to stay up on caps. In other words, the team who divides dies. The team who sticks together wins. That's generally why I prefer domination or assault. There's a single goal and the team is more likely to stick together. There's always one or 2 guys who want to snipe, but whatever.

Communication is always key, but that's always hit and miss as well. Posted Image





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