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[DeadoEndo]

Hello all. I'm somewhat new to MWO, I've been playing off and on for a month. I happen to also like fighting games, so I wanted to get a flight stick for throttle and turning. I bought the Logitech 3D, and so far I've been really liking it. Wish it was ambidextrous but, it's been pretty helpful for me.

In the pre-match banter, I mentioned that I was trying it out and everyone went dead silent. When I made a joke about how I shut down the chat, someone replied "We're trying not to laugh"

Is it like... a joke in this community or a faux paux I don't know about? To be clear I'm interested in HOSAM, so a stick in my left mouse in my right for aiming. I'm not aiming with the stick. I got a couple kills that match and it felt really good. Obviously I could just not bring it up in the future, but I'm curious what I did wrong.

[epikt]

Aiming with a stick would be a faux pas, but as long as you're aiming with a mouse it's fine with me...
I'm just worried you won't have enough buttons for all the commands (zoom, night/heat vision, masc, toggle ecm/stealth, etc) or have difficult access to those buttons if you're using a keyboard in addition to the stick.

edit: I didn't understand, you're using a stick for fighting games (that would be kind of strange) or flight simulators?

Edited by epikt, 23 June 2023 - 04:22 PM.

[DeadoEndo]

epikt, on 23 June 2023 - 04:21 PM, said:

Aiming with a stick would be a faux pas, but as long as you're aiming with a mouse it's fine with me...
I'm just worried you won't have enough buttons for all the commands (zoom, night/heat vision, masc, toggle ecm/stealth, etc) or have difficult access to those buttons if you're using a keyboard in addition to the stick.

edit: I didn't understand, you're using a stick for fighting games (that would be kind of strange) or flight simulators?

My left hand is really familiar with joysticks because I play fighting games but I'm using a flightstick. Yeah I understand. The buttons thing isn't an issue with this one because it has about 6 up top and 6 down below. Plus the stick itself and a throttle switch. Main issue is that it's cheap. But if a lot of people jump in using the stick as a cursor I can completely understand that impression

[Horseman]

They likely assumed that your mention of a stick meant you were using HOTAS.
There's a category of players - often older ones, familiar with previous Mechwarrior titles (in particular MW4) - who are enamored with the idea of playing the game with HOTAS set-ups under the mistaken premise that it's a mech sim and not a shooter (important distinction).
MWO, of course, is a shooter, was not really designed for those control methods, doesn't offer any form of aim assist, and the fact those players aren't exactly cream of the crop doesn't do them any favours either - so a certain degree of stigma has developed around it.

Edited by Horseman, 25 June 2023 - 10:08 AM.

[BLACKR0SE]

I want to play MWO while lying down one day.
I'm not sure if I can do it. I have a Logitech F710 joystick, but I think the controls would be quite difficult. Maybe it can be used for LRMs.

[Ignatius Audene]

Even for movement I think joystick is suboptimal. Especially jj and masc moving of hotboxes simply needs to much movement and in result is not fast enough.

[RockmachinE]

Its not so much a faux pas, no one minds that you do it. It is seen as you deliberately nerfing yourself though, its extremely inefficient.

So its more like "why would anyone wanna do this to themselves" and not so much "they shouldn't be doing this".

[Void Angel]

Which is why people actually WILL mind, if your performance is sub-par. However, moving with a joystick should be perfectly workable, particularly if you're using one with very little dead zone - or none, like some force-feedback flight sticks. Of it has a dead zone, however, you are nerfing yourself, because you're substituting a higher-order controller that adds artificial lag to your responses.

[CFC Conky]

I used to use a joystick back in the days of MW2 and it worked well enough but not so much with MWO.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

[rewb]

Mechs with joysticks just makes sense. But aiming... Well...

Anyway, here is a badass left-hand stick.

https://www.vkbcontr...-combat-edition