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[martian]

Meep Meep, on 31 August 2023 - 08:23 PM, said:

Binary are definitely a step in the right direction to close the gap on clan lasvom. But then I suppose the counterpoint is that lasvom as a meta is already pretty bad so...

Let us wait for the September Game patch. I expect that some stats of some new weapons will be adjusted.

[Meep Meep]

Don't see any need to adjust binary past fixing the hsl. They are still overall less efficient than clam heavy lasers given how clams can boat so many sinks.

Reportedly hag will get a dispersion buff making them stronger at range and xpulse are getting some sort of damage buff.

[1Exitar1]

Baba Yogi, on 27 August 2023 - 08:07 AM, said:

If you are T4, i dont think problem is with Assault mechs mate. You're yet to learn how to play the game. Stone Rhino is capable of some of the most OP builds ever. Koloss is better brawler than Scorch, and with 6 you can do absurd LaserVomit builds. Maybe Assault mechs arent your thing, playstyles differ greatly by each weight class.

Too true! Some people are better adapted to light or medium play style, others to heavy and assault and then there are the ones that can play them all equally well. I personally prefer to play lights. I like the fast and agile mechs, but I have been trying out the SR-6 and OMG! The firepower and heat it generates! I got surprised by a mech coming around a corner and alpha'd all my lasers. *BOOM* Cooked myself! The assault play style takes some getting used to. You also need to skill it up. Start with Armor Hardening and Skeletal Density.

Don't give up on them just because you aren't used to playing them.

[foamyesque]

Meep Meep, on 31 August 2023 - 09:13 PM, said:

Reportedly hag will get a dispersion buff making them stronger at range and xpulse are getting some sort of damage buff.

A dispersion buff is the very last thing HAGs need. If anything I'd move 'em in the opposite direction and make 'em more spready. If you want pixel precise point&clicking, use a standard gauss.

[Meep Meep]

foamyesque, on 01 September 2023 - 11:30 PM, said:

A dispersion buff is the very last thing HAGs need. If anything I'd move 'em in the opposite direction and make 'em more spready. If you want pixel precise point&clicking, use a standard gauss.

A cauldron leak also stated it would get an increase in the duration between shots too. The biggest complaint so far isnt the spread its the quick volley of shots like an autocannon.

[martian]

Meep Meep, on 02 September 2023 - 02:10 AM, said:

A cauldron leak also stated it would get an increase in the duration between shots too. The biggest complaint so far isnt the spread its the quick volley of shots like an autocannon.

Do you mean cooldown between shots for the entire weapon or between single pellets leaving the barrel?

[Weeny Machine]

martian, on 02 September 2023 - 02:59 AM, said:

Do you mean cooldown between shots for the entire weapon or between single pellets leaving the barrel?

Sounds like the time between the pellets leaving the barrel

[Meep Meep]

Time between pellets.

[KursedVixen]

Meep Meep, on 31 August 2023 - 09:13 PM, said:

Don't see any need to adjust binary past fixing the hsl. They are still overall less efficient than clam heavy lasers given how clams can boat so many sinks.

Reportedly hag will get a dispersion buff making them stronger at range and xpulse are getting some sort of damage buff.

no no no hags don't need any change they don't need to be long range weapons..... they are perfectly fine... why can't they leave stuff alone? if you want snipy go for large lasers gauss or ERPPC

Edited by KursedVixen, 02 September 2023 - 05:05 AM.

[martian]

Weeny Machine, on 02 September 2023 - 04:16 AM, said:

Sounds like the time between the pellets leaving the barrel

Meep Meep, on 02 September 2023 - 04:32 AM, said:

Time between pellets.

Interesting. Thanks.

[foamyesque]

Meep Meep, on 02 September 2023 - 02:10 AM, said:

A cauldron leak also stated it would get an increase in the duration between shots too. The biggest complaint so far isnt the spread its the quick volley of shots like an autocannon.

Hm. I can see a duration increase, but I don't know that a spread adjustment is needed to counter it. I'd keep the (honestly, pretty tight) firecone as is, and see how the gun feels when it isn't such a fast burst.

[Davegt27]

OP I totally understand, I still haven't bought MW5 but I bought a pack and gave it to a streamers channel
and I bought a hatchet man when they started recognizing more loyalty rewards

this plays in the background

[martian]

Davegt27, on 02 September 2023 - 09:19 AM, said:

OP I totally understand, I still haven't bought MW5 but I bought a pack and gave it to a streamers channel
and I bought a hatchet man when they started recognizing more loyalty rewards

Do you like the Hatchetman?

[Meep Meep]

From Tiyos directly. Binary will be getting the clam heavy large treatment for duration. Seems the stats are safe overall past fixing hsl.

foamyesque, on 02 September 2023 - 09:11 AM, said:

Hm. I can see a duration increase, but I don't know that a spread adjustment is needed to counter it. I'd keep the (honestly, pretty tight) firecone as is, and see how the gun feels when it isn't such a fast burst.

Dispersion on the 20 will be increased. The 30 will be 'rebalanced' mainly longer time between pellets and tighter dispersion along with a heat nerf. 40 is still being worked out but overall nerf.

[martian]

Meep Meep, on 03 September 2023 - 11:56 AM, said:

From Tiyos directly. Binary will be getting the clam heavy large treatment for duration. Seems the stats are safe overall past fixing hsl.

So extended burn time from 1,15 to 1,45?

Meep Meep, on 03 September 2023 - 11:56 AM, said:

Dispersion on the 20 will be increased. The 30 will be 'rebalanced' mainly longer time between pellets and tighter dispersion along with a heat nerf. 40 is still being worked out but overall nerf.

Thanks for the info. I wonder how they will change the HAG-40's stats.

[Meep Meep]

martian, on 03 September 2023 - 12:05 PM, said:

So extended burn time from 1,15 to 1,45?


Thanks for the info. I wonder how they will change the HAG-40's stats.

Was hanging in ASH's stream this morning and Tyios was grouped and we all had a nice long discussion on sept patch. No specifics on numbers but binary will be similar or same as clam heavy large duration. No word on specific hag40 changes since its not all that much used and its still being mulled over but so far overall nerf since the few mechs that can boat it are overperforming. The 30 is the standout so far since everything can either single or dual mount it and be effective. ASH was pulling in 1000 damage games with a 2x hag30 gyre all morning and giggling like a kid the entire time.

edit: oh and the geeram config was a topic and its 'being looked into' on the veggie removal setting but don't hold your breath since its a very popular config now. It really is a good config because it does give you very fine control over your settings and can either make the game super pretty or dumb it down for pure comp play. No one has mentioned the n64 mode either..

Edited by Meep Meep, 03 September 2023 - 12:14 PM.

[martian]

Meep Meep, on 03 September 2023 - 12:11 PM, said:

Was hanging in ASH's stream this morning and Tyios was grouped and we all had a nice long discussion on sept patch. No specifics on numbers but binary will be similar or same as clam heavy large duration. No word on specific hag40 changes since its not all that much used and its still being mulled over but so far overall nerf since the few mechs that can boat it are overperforming. The 30 is the standout so far since everything can either single or dual mount it and be effective. ASH was pulling in 1000 damage games with a 2x hag30 gyre all morning and giggling like a kid the entire time.

HAGs being too good would lead to the extinction of UACs.

[Meep Meep]

martian, on 03 September 2023 - 12:27 PM, said:

HAGs being too good would lead to the extinction of UACs.

No worries even after the changes they will be strong. There are a few uac/hag combos that sync very well together and ironically the changes will sync them up even more. I was watching them run a stone rhino dual hag/uac combo and hooo boy was it farmer bob..

[Davegt27]

martian, on 03 September 2023 - 11:06 AM, said:

Do you like the Hatchetman?

I like them, fairly high mounts
and I can mount heavy gauss on one of them

but they are very weak so I can't recommend them
I hope that makes sense

[martian]

Davegt27, on 03 September 2023 - 01:32 PM, said:

I like them, fairly high mounts
and I can mount heavy gauss on one of them

but they are very weak so I can't recommend them
I hope that makes sense

Of course it does.

Just play the 'Mechs that you like and let PSR / matchmaker do the rest.