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[The6thMessenger]

So I just realized, the legendary hero mechs doesn't say whether they'd be available to buy using MC.

Is that PGI's policy now? Paywalled mechs? I mean okay sure, their business, but just want to be clear on that.

[Weeny Machine]

Some years ago, you couldn't buy hero mechs easily because MC were never given out in events. So, paywalling is actually nothing new

[martian]

The6thMessenger, on 06 September 2023 - 03:21 AM, said:

So I just realized, the legendary hero mechs doesn't say whether they'd be available to buy using MC.

Is that PGI's policy now? Paywalled mechs? I mean okay sure, their business, but just want to be clear on that.

That's how I understand it. Perhaps somebody has got some updated info.

[An6ryMan69]

I wouldn't describe legendries as generally pay-to-win, considering how a good player in a common-as-dirt C-Bill Shadowcat or Phoenix Hawk will reliably chew up and spit out most of the legendaries, with the possible exception of the SRM-crazy Viper, which is likely to be nerfed soon anyways.

Having said that, I wouldn't mind being able to get legendaries with MC though....

Edited by An6ryMan69, 06 September 2023 - 09:00 AM.

[Bud Crue]

ASH mentioned on Outreach that the Legendary mechs will be available in a generic hero form (no battle pass stuff) for MC down the road. Why PGI has not made this explicit, with a prominent announcement bewilders me. Once I know for certain that they will indeed be available for MC purchase I will likely buy a few, and I know many others in the same boat.

https://youtu.be/JSm...dy7tQy-E_iVXzu-

About halfway down in the thread.

Edited by Bud Crue, 06 September 2023 - 08:57 AM.

[Cyborne Elemental]

Only reason Viper seems OP is because its quirk tuned for standard SRM only. Its a 1 trick pony.

All Vipers are fast, and have crazy strong JJ, but they're pod-locked so for most uses its wasted tonnage.

The Kitfox-D actually has better for regular Cbills.

Splatfox DPS is on par or better than the viper-SS, runs cooler and generally is better in all ways except speed and no JJ's, and if you get into a brawl with the SplatFox you're not going to walk away without a good chunk of any mech severely damaged.

[An6ryMan69]

Cyborne Elemental, on 06 September 2023 - 09:26 AM, said:

Only reason Viper seems OP is because its quirk tuned for standard SRM only. Its a 1 trick pony.

All Vipers are fast, and have crazy strong JJ, but they're pod-locked so for most uses its wasted tonnage.

The Kitfox-D actually has better for regular Cbills.

Splatfox DPS is on par or better than the viper-SS, runs cooler and generally is better in all ways except speed and no JJ's, and if you get into a brawl with the SplatFox you're not going to walk away without a good chunk of any mech severely damaged.

Yeah, I have been on the wrong end of them myself.

I just find currently with so many heavily gunned assaults running around, the JJ's and agility of the Viper definitely add to its survivability.

The splatfox isn't going to be able shoot and scoot people's expensive new assaults nearly as well as the viper, and while it may deal lots of damage, 1vs1 brawls with the big boys seem much more likely to be suicide runs.

Edited by An6ryMan69, 06 September 2023 - 12:07 PM.

[Curccu]

Cyborne Elemental, on 06 September 2023 - 09:26 AM, said:

Only reason Viper seems OP is because its quirk tuned for standard SRM only. Its a 1 trick pony.

All Vipers are fast, and have crazy strong JJ, but they're pod-locked so for most uses its wasted tonnage.

The Kitfox-D actually has better for regular Cbills.

Splatfox DPS is on par or better than the viper-SS, runs cooler and generally is better in all ways except speed and no JJ's, and if you get into a brawl with the SplatFox you're not going to walk away without a good chunk of any mech severely damaged.

Yep... if you compare these two I would take 1000 out of 1000 times Viper. Why? Because speed, jumpjets, mobility, built in artemis with zero tonnage&slots and mind blowing ammo quirk... 250% extra ammo.
kfx-d vs vpr-dilgd

There is no mech that can do the **** this can at the moment and imo that is definition of p2w, sure it's medium and brawler so not super meta but still as a fast mobile brawler.. insanely good.

[Bassault]

Some legendaries are just overpowered, most are just good or S tier. Think of that what you will. To me, as long as the overpowered ones are nerfed soon after release, then I am fine with it.

[RickySpanish]

Cyborne Elemental, on 06 September 2023 - 09:26 AM, said:

Only reason Viper seems OP is because its quirk tuned for standard SRM only. Its a 1 trick pony.

All Vipers are fast, and have crazy strong JJ, but they're pod-locked so for most uses its wasted tonnage.

The Kitfox-D actually has better for regular Cbills.

Splatfox DPS is on par or better than the viper-SS, runs cooler and generally is better in all ways except speed and no JJ's, and if you get into a brawl with the SplatFox you're not going to walk away without a good chunk of any mech severely damaged.

Scaleshot is not even in the same league as the Kitfox. The Kitfox goes 90kph, Scaleshot does 139. Kitfox has no jump jets. Scaleshot has massively tight spread on SRMs. Scaleshot has range out to almost 400m... Lol. It's a ridiculous 'Mech, the Kitfox is garbage in comparison.

[Bud Crue]

Bassault, on 06 September 2023 - 01:07 PM, said:

Some legendaries are just overpowered, most are just good or S tier. Think of that what you will. To me, as long as the overpowered ones are nerfed soon after release, then I am fine with it.

Heck, given how much free MC PGI gives nowadays, I don't even mind if the Legendary Mechs are explicitly OP (cough- Dreadnaught -cough) as long as they are indeed going to be available for MC at some point; and based on ASH's comments it sounds like that is now the plan.

[feeWAIVER]

If you think you need to pay for a legendary mech to win, then you should definitely pay for it but you probably still won't win.

[The6thMessenger]

feeWAIVER, on 06 September 2023 - 01:38 PM, said:

If you think you need to pay for a legendary mech to win, then you should definitely pay for it but you probably still won't win.

Yikes, someone's salty.

[Ihlrath]

The Scaleshot is a good solid mech. Vipers in general do well because of their mobility, that's what makes them so much fun to play. It's far from P2W especially if we're not counting Stone Rhinos, Gauzilla, and Stone Crusher in that category. Sounds like a lot of 'I can't snipe you from across the map anymore with impunity and not watch my back'

[Bassault]

Ihlrath, on 06 September 2023 - 02:57 PM, said:

The Scaleshot is a good solid mech. Vipers in general do well because of their mobility, that's what makes them so much fun to play. It's far from P2W especially if we're not counting Stone Rhinos, Gauzilla, and Stone Crusher in that category. Sounds like a lot of 'I can't snipe you from across the map anymore with impunity and not watch my back'

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[Ihlrath]

Bassault, on 06 September 2023 - 04:05 PM, said:

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The above whining about the SS being OP

[RickySpanish]

Ihlrath, on 06 September 2023 - 05:01 PM, said:

The above whining about the SS being OP

It's my highest average damage 'Mech. I'm not whining about being beaten by them, I'm the one administering the beatings.

[Ihlrath]

RickySpanish, on 06 September 2023 - 05:22 PM, said:

It's my highest average damage 'Mech. I'm not whining about being beaten by them, I'm the one administering the beatings.

My bad then! Seems like every match someone on the red side is complaining. Usually a sniper that got a back full of SRMS.

[RickySpanish]

Ihlrath, on 06 September 2023 - 05:27 PM, said:

My bad then! Seems like every match someone on the red side is complaining. Usually a sniper that got a back full of SRMS.

They deserve it =)

The 'Mech doesn't need to be smashed by the nerf bat, but I think reducing the ammo bonus and adjusting the heat quirk would be good.

[Bassault]

Ihlrath, on 06 September 2023 - 05:01 PM, said:

The above whining about the SS being OP

No I was just dumbstruck. Idk how someone's world could be so upside down. I guess when your playstyle involves standing still while assaults shoot at you, you might have that opinion. I should be more open minded.