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[HardDrive]

I mean i know its in the game and you can que for it, But the times I have tried there has not been enough people to make a match.
My unit is finally to the point where we have enough people regularly on to start to participate in this, that has been our goal at least.
is there a night where other teams actually get on and are able to field some games?

[Duke Falcon]

On friday and saturday chances are better.
Be prepared for big premades though...
As a european I say matches usually start to occur around 21:00 local time.

[HardDrive]

Duke Falcon, on 10 February 2024 - 12:49 PM, said:

On friday and saturday chances are better.
Be prepared for big premades though...
As a european I say matches usually start to occur around 21:00 local time.

Yeah i warned my guys to not get discouraged for the first month or so cause we are going to get out arses handed to us until we get6 our crap together and even then some more after.

[Ignatius Audene]

EU Prime and NA Prime u should get matches. Especilly if u are grouped and willing to switch sides as necessary

[Lobster in Leggins]

Its as dead as the king

[tee5]

If it is dead as the king, then why I am playing it right now?

PS: Today I played 6 games in a row.

Edited by tee5, 21 April 2024 - 03:46 PM.

[MechWarrior5782621]

PGI really needs to prioritize FP this year. It may not have the highest population, but it's the best game mode & it's where all their loyal customers are.

All of these event queue weekend warriors will be gone in 6 months, and they're not the ones still spending money on this game.

[martian]

MechWarrior5782621, on 26 April 2024 - 05:30 PM, said:

PGI really needs to prioritize FP this year.

It makes no business sense to sink money into a dead game mode.

MechWarrior5782621, on 26 April 2024 - 05:30 PM, said:

It may not have the highest population, ....

I made this screenshot 1 minute ago to show you the current FP population.

Check the red frame:

MechWarrior5782621, on 26 April 2024 - 05:30 PM, said:

... but it's the best game mode ...

No, the MWO players do not think that it is the best mode. The overwhelming majority of all MWO players who tried this game mode ... has left the Faction Play.

MechWarrior5782621, on 26 April 2024 - 05:30 PM, said:

... & it's where all their loyal customers are.

Considering that the Quick Play still has much more players than the moribund Faction Pay, I would say that you are wrong.

MechWarrior5782621, on 26 April 2024 - 05:30 PM, said:

All of these event queue weekend warriors will be gone in 6 months, ...

Maybe. But I guess that in 6 months the FP will be in the state it is now.

MechWarrior5782621, on 26 April 2024 - 05:30 PM, said:

... and they're not the ones still spending money on this game.

You do not have access to the PGI's accounting data. Thus, you have not even the slightest clue how many dollars any other MWO player spends and on what.

Edited by martian, Yesterday, 11:05 PM.

[MechWarrior5782621]

It makes perfect sense to invest resources in FP, if they can make a profit and keep their customers around.

You are incorrect - the red frame refers to the queue, not the population.

"No, the MWO players do not think that it is the best mode. The overwhelming majority of all MWO players who tried this game mode ... has left the Faction Play."

The same is true for QP and every other game mode.

"Considering that the Quick Play still has much more players than the moribund Faction Pay, I would say that you are wrong."

No, you are just proving my point for me. Players have left because PGI has neglected it. They can still fix it with some patches, and events with rewards, etc.

"You do not have access to the PGI's accounting data. Thus, you have not even the slightest clue how many dollars any other MWO player spends and on what."

Incorrect. You can simply talk to people to gain a general understanding, and pay attention to which game modes have more legendary mechs, etc.

[martian]

MechWarrior5782621, on 27 April 2024 - 04:27 AM, said:

It makes perfect sense to invest resources in FP, if they can make a profit and keep their customers around.

The opportunity to "keep their customers around" in the Faction Play passed many years ago. The majority of FP customers haas already left. Sorry.

MechWarrior5782621, on 27 April 2024 - 04:27 AM, said:

You are incorrect - the red frame refers to the queue, not the population.

And the Faction Play population reflects in those "0/0" numbers. LOL

MechWarrior5782621, on 27 April 2024 - 04:27 AM, said:

"No, the MWO players do not think that it is the best mode. The overwhelming majority of all MWO players who tried this game mode ... has left the Faction Play."

The same is true for QP and every other game mode.

No, it is not. There are still some active players in the Quick Play active around the clock.

For example, in the Quick Play I can get a game after one or two minutes of waiting.

In the Faction Play, I could wait for half an hour and then leave the queue without actually getting a game.

This is really not the same thing.

MechWarrior5782621, on 27 April 2024 - 04:27 AM, said:

"Considering that the Quick Play still has much more players than the moribund Faction Pay, I would say that you are wrong."

No, you are just proving my point for me. Players have left because PGI has neglected it. They can still fix it with some patches, and events with rewards, etc.

I am sorry to rain on your parade, but Russ Bullock announced that MWO is not going to have its own dedicated engineers. Essentially, MWO is going to stay in the maintenance mode indefinitely.

Since the Faction Play has not managed to attract a sufficient number of players since its inception, and then keep them around in comparison with the Quick Play ... you are not going to "fix it with some patches, and events with rewards". It is too late for that. And as I have said, there is nobody who would do that.

PGI even launched one event a few months ago, exactly as you suggested, just to remind people why Faction Play sucks so much.

This screenshot shows the Faction Play three days after the end of the last Faction Play event:



As you can see, it was still 0/0.

And this screenshot shows the Faction Play after a week after the event:



As you can see, no change.

MechWarrior5782621, on 27 April 2024 - 04:27 AM, said:

"You do not have access to the PGI's accounting data. Thus, you have not even the slightest clue how many dollars any other MWO player spends and on what."

Incorrect. You can simply talk to people to gain a general understanding, and pay attention to which game modes have more legendary mechs, etc.

Sorry, but some random internet anons are not credible sources.

[MechWarrior5782621]

"Sorry, but some random internet anons are not credible sources."

Ok, then by your logic they should not work on QP either. You do not have access to their full financial records, and therefore there is no way for you to justify them working on QP. Exact same thing as with FP.

Your screenshots are meaningless. They could have been taken immediately after a FP game had started. Tee even mentioned that he played 6 matches in a row very recently.

Your other arguments are equally flawed. PGI is still putting out new mechs, weapons, and maps. So, obviously it would be possible to improve FP. And, rewards-based events would be very easy to accomplish. Also they put out event queue which uses dropdecks, and therefore it competes with the FP game mode. These are all decisions that they chose to make - none of it was inevitable.

[torsie]

We just played 3 FP games in a row maybe hour ago, and I think we could still play more but we stopped playing for tonight.

It is lot of fun, but I understand why some people prefer rotato potato queue.

[martian]

MechWarrior5782621, on 27 April 2024 - 01:35 PM, said:

"Sorry, but some random internet anons are not credible sources."

Ok, then by your logic they should not work on QP either. You do not have access to their full financial records, and therefore there is no way for you to justify them working on QP. Exact same thing as with FP.

It was you - not me - who attempted to use anonymous internet voices as a serious source. LOL

MechWarrior5782621, on 27 April 2024 - 01:35 PM, said:

Your screenshots are meaningless. They could have been taken immediately after a FP game had started. Tee even mentioned that he played 6 matches in a row very recently.

8:22 The Faction Play in the morning: Empty.

0/0




10:11 Two hours later: Still empty.

0/0




10:26 Twenty minutes later: Nobody home.

0/0




11:49: I am here alone.

0/0




12:03: Still dead.

0/0




13:31: The Faction Play in the afternoon: No players.

0/0




14:48: Nobody is interested.

0/0




15:07 Waiting is not some special fun ...

0/0




16:58 Where are all those players who are supposedly eager to enjoy the Faction Play?

0/0




20:47 Time to go to bed. The Faction Play still devoid of players.

0/0



Summary: Yesterday nobody except me was interested in the Faction Play from the morning to the evening.

All your "loyal customers" and "FP customers" failed to show up.

MechWarrior5782621, on 27 April 2024 - 01:35 PM, said:

Your other arguments are equally flawed. PGI is still putting out new mechs, weapons, and maps.

These are just recycled items: Reskinned existing 'Mechs. Recycled existing weapons with changed stats (essentially, edited text files). Mostly recycled maps, etc.

MechWarrior5782621, on 27 April 2024 - 01:35 PM, said:

So, obviously it would be possible to improve FP.

Everything is possible if you have resources. MWO has not.

MechWarrior5782621, on 27 April 2024 - 01:35 PM, said:

And, rewards-based events would be very easy to accomplish.

I posted the link to the last FP event. I also posted a pair of screenshots that demonstrated that after that event the Faction Play was as dead as before.

Obviously, PGI noticed it too, so no Faction Play event has followed since then.

MechWarrior5782621, on 27 April 2024 - 01:35 PM, said:

Also they put out event queue which uses dropdecks, and therefore it competes with the FP game mode. These are all decisions that they chose to make - none of it was inevitable.

The Event queue is not the Faction Play. Sorry for pointing out the difference.

Conclusion: Enjoy the Faction Play "as is" and enjoy it while it lasts.

PGI could decide one day that the empty Faction Play is not worth paying the servers and turns it off, just like they did with the Group queue and with the Solaris 7 game mode.