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[Syntax 420]

Title kinda says it all. I struggle to maintain 60 fps. usually sitting around 30-40 on most maps and often dipping much lower.

The weird thing is... my CPU usage never goes past 23% and the graphics card never gets past 30%

I don't know why this could be. I've fiddled with the user.cfg file to make use of all my CPU cores, but this doesn't seem to make any difference.

I just want the game to use the hardware that it's running on

...and no, I don't consider turning down my settings a fix. I shouldn't have to do that, and it makes the game look intolerably worse. If anything I should be able to turn it up much higher...

...Also the fact that it's an older engine is no good excuse either. Source is an old engine and I can run HL2 at several hundred fps.

my pc stats:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (14nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: MSI A320M PRO-VD PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
Storage: HP 2DP97AA#ABC 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: KingSpec P3 128 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 500 GB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB Video Card
Case: Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ATX TG ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WBAX210 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax PCIe x1 Wi-Fi Adapter
Case Fan: Corsair ML120 75 CFM 120 mm Fans 2-Pack
Monitor: Acer K272HL 27.0" 1920 x 1080 60 Hz Monitor
Mouse: Razer Basilisk V3 Wired Optical Mouse
Headphones: Logitech G435 Headset
Webcam: Logitech C920 HD Pro Webcam

[Captain Grayson Lighthorse]

I have a similar experience. I struggled with getting my fps to run above 60 but finally got it to run 70 - 80 with some tweaking of my video settings in the NVidia control panel and by downloading the NVidia Profile Inspector and tweaking some settings in there. It's odd because a few months ago I could run near my monitors full fps which is 120. But after taking a break from MWO for a few months, I now struggle to maintain 70's. I have a hi-end system much like yours with a Ryzen 5950x and a 3090 Ti GPU and this game should not even be a small struggle for this system even at 4k. My old system was an Intel i5 with a 1080 Ti and it actually ran about the same fps at 1080p. Don't know if they have some kind of cap on the fps in the game engine or what, but it should perform better than what it is.

[Tarl Cabot]

Actually, it is a good excuse. The Cryengine 3 beta lives off of high single core speed. It is not setup to utilize multiple cores. High End GPU really does not matter since the CPU does must of the work.

• Via task manager, Details, set MWO Processor Affinity.
  
• Is there a change in FPS?
  
• The control panel Power Options, Ensure it is set at High Performance instead of Balanced or PowerSaver. On two of my systems, the Windows had changed the settings in the last few months from High Performance to Balanced.
  
• OC the CPU. Your CPU base speeds are the same as they were for 2-core (physical and HT) and 4-core systems from years ago. Check your motherboard bios to see if it has preset setting for more aggressive CPU speeds.
  
• Do not depend on Turboboost, as that is supposed to only be temporary, it is the general layman's sometimes OC.
  
• The 5950x has a greater OC potential of 4.5ghz to 5ghz, while the 1600 may hit 3.8ghz.

Also the fact that it's an older engine is no good excuse either.

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor

AMD Ryzen 9 5950x Base Clock 3.4GHz 16-core/32 w/hyperthreaded

In general though, after the November 2023 Item Database issue and update, several have seen their FPS drop in the last few months. Part of it is how that update was handled by PGI, a little bit likely due to Windows resetting Power Options from High Performance.

My system is a i5-8600K (3.6ghz) OC to 4.5ghz 16gig/ram and a Geforce RTS 2060 Super, besides Solaris, maps are usually 80+.

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 28 March 2024 - 04:21 PM.

[Ignatius Audene]

CPU usage is an awefull metric. 100% would mean, that each core and thread is working on 100% speed. Mwo only cares about single core CPU clock speed. 1600 has quite poor single core performance.

What u can do is the mentioned of, double checking power settings are maxed and clear shaders.
Using custom CFG is an option. Sadly true in 2024.

[Meep Meep]

Yep. Game engine only uses one core and its very dependent upon high clocks. Doesn't even need to be all that powerful a cpu overall as long as the clocks are high. The op's mobo should have plenty of options for a much higher clocked cpu since amd is known for its socket longevity.

[Ignatius Audene]

Since it is only an a Board the 5600x could be an nice upgrade. I wouldn't go much higher because of power phases and in relation to the rest of the system. Would be an nice cheap upgrade, though u need to flash an new bios (can check MSI HP if available)

[KursedVixen]

it's based on a game engine over 20 years old.... what do you expect we barely had multiple core cpus then...

As far as I know the game is not optimized at all too which doesn't help.

Edited by KursedVixen, 03 May 2024 - 01:37 PM.

[FightingFetus]

You have a 4060 Ti, 32 GB of RAM, and a 1000w PSU but have them paired with a Ryzen 5 1600 CPU?

You absolutely need to upgrade your CPU to a 5600x, you can get another ~3 years out of that system by simply upgrading your CPU, as the rest of the system is relatively decent. The good news is that the 1600 and 5600 are both AM4 socket, so you don't need to upgrade your mobo or ram. This will be a massive upgrade for a cheap price (about $120 atm).

You are severely bottlenecking your GPU with such an old CPU, especially in games that are CPU heavy (like MWO)

(if you want to go all out, you could even get the 5800x3D, which is the best AM4 CPU you can get before having to upgrade your mobo... but it's about $300 so you're paying more than double the cost for about a 15-20% difference in CPU performance vs the 5600x.)

Edited by FightingFetus, 06 May 2024 - 03:27 AM.

[KursedVixen]

FightingFetus, on 06 May 2024 - 03:26 AM, said:

You have a 4060 Ti, 32 GB of RAM, and a 1000w PSU but have them paired with a Ryzen 5 1600 CPU?

You absolutely need to upgrade your CPU to a 5600x, you can get another ~3 years out of that system by simply upgrading your CPU, as the rest of the system is relatively decent. The good news is that the 1600 and 5600 are both AM4 socket, so you don't need to upgrade your mobo or ram. This will be a massive upgrade for a cheap price (about $120 atm).

You are severely bottlenecking your GPU with such an old CPU, especially in games that are CPU heavy (like MWO)

(if you want to go all out, you could even get the 5800x3D, which is the best AM4 CPU you can get before having to upgrade your mobo... but it's about $300 so you're paying more than double the cost for about a 15-20% difference in CPU performance vs the 5600x.)

or if he is willing to spend a little more the ryzen 7 series also uses the am4 socket.

[hardenum]

check if the newest bios supports 5600x3d or 5700x3d or even 5800x3d if you need it for other games, particularly mmo's or vr games, those games love x3d's. x3d's also are very efficient so you will have no issues with power delivery.