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[Gasboy]

Hagen Zwosta, on 14 April 2024 - 03:40 AM, said:

The question was merely if something broke the matchmaker or if there is a shitlist like in other games. Maybe I insulted someone.
Because it is only like this in the last weeks.

No. Matchmaker has not changed and there no such thing as a shitlist.

You're a decent player, surely you can understand how random works, and that as you play, you will see streaks where you do well, and streaks where you do poorly. Human nature.

[pattonesque]

Moadebe, on 14 April 2024 - 06:23 AM, said:

Worst take I have seen in awhile. Especially when its a 12v12 per match game. Ive had days where I have won MAYBE a 3-4 matches and lost 20. Then I have had days where that was reversed.

Matchmaker has a LOT to do with that. Yeah you contribute to the match overall, but you are not Rambo and this isn't COD.

streaks or runs of bad luck do happen but this is a game where very good players are extremely capable of carrying, or vice versa.

[Hagen Zwosta]

Mechwarrior2342356, on 14 April 2024 - 10:03 AM, said:

As a general statement this is hilariously wrong. A number of games have actually implemented shitlists for players deemed troublesome. The only thing that makes it unlikely in MWO is PGI being too lazy for that.

That is why I asked.

ScrapIron Prime, on 14 April 2024 - 08:11 AM, said:

That is surprising. So I looked up your stats on Jarl's and you're consistently 1.0 plus or minus a bit. This season shouldn't be markedly different, since the player base and the matchmaker aren't really acting any different than the past few months. I'll check again next month and see if the number did indeed drop like you're saying, as that kind of difference is way outside a standard deviation, statistically speaking.

This is how it looks for this season: 4059 Hagen Zwosta 12 18 0.67 18 22 0.82 30 267
12 loss, 18 wins, 267 average score. My score is a bit lower than usual but that is partly because of the stomps I assume.
Yes it is only 30 games, but the last 100+ last season were the same.
At least it is not 0.36 any more. But 0.67 is bad enough too.

Edited by Hagen Zwosta, 14 April 2024 - 10:34 AM.

[Gasboy]

Mechwarrior2342356, on 14 April 2024 - 10:03 AM, said:

As a general statement this is hilariously wrong. A number of games have actually implemented shitlists for players deemed troublesome. The only thing that makes it unlikely in MWO is PGI being too lazy for that.

I'm not talking other games, I'm talking about MWO. So provide proof PGI has implemented a 'shitlist' in MWO. If you can't, my statement is not 'hilariously wrong'.

[Gasboy]

Hagen Zwosta, on 14 April 2024 - 10:33 AM, said:

Yes it is only 30 games, but the last 100+ last season were the same.
At least it is not 0.36 any more. But 0.67 is bad enough too.

And your perfomance in that last season put you in the top 5000 of almost 30k players. Oh noes.

[Gasboy]

Mechwarrior2342356, on 15 April 2024 - 12:13 AM, said:

but MM IS NOT RANDOM.

Aside from the experience bar divisions (tier 1 to 5 ), group sizes, and mech weight category, what does it sort by?

Unless there's evidence out there that's more than "PGI hates me in particular" conspiracy theory, you've go not leg to stand on.

Is it possible? Sure, I don't doubt that. Bit I don't see proof of that. If I were to conecture, it'd be anecdotal at best.

Edited by Gasboy, 15 April 2024 - 02:47 AM.

[martian]

Gasboy, on 15 April 2024 - 02:46 AM, said:

Aside from the experience bar divisions (tier 1 to 5 ) ...

PSR bar / Tier system is not experience bar.

You have got some players with many thousands of games sitting firmly in Tier 5. On the other hand, you have got other players (who have started playing recently) who have moved to Tier 1.

[Hagen Zwosta]

Gasboy, on 14 April 2024 - 01:12 PM, said:

And your perfomance in that last season put you in the top 5000 of almost 30k players. Oh noes.

Not really because I am a new player and so far only in Tier 4 (close to 3). So I am really not top 5k of 30k.

[Jon Gotham]

Gasboy, on 15 April 2024 - 02:46 AM, said:

Aside from the experience bar divisions (tier 1 to 5 ), group sizes, and mech weight category, what does it sort by?

Unless there's evidence out there that's more than "PGI hates me in particular" conspiracy theory, you've go not leg to stand on.

Is it possible? Sure, I don't doubt that. Bit I don't see proof of that. If I were to conecture, it'd be anecdotal at best.

It is ENTIRELY possible he is one of the previously mentioned outliers, from his current sample size. He is also perfectly entitled to vent about it.

[Sjorpha]

Your stats are perfectly normal: https://leaderboard....?u=Hagen+Zwosta

[ScrapIron Prime]

Jon Gotham, on 15 April 2024 - 10:53 AM, said:

It is ENTIRELY possible he is one of the previously mentioned outliers, from his current sample size. He is also perfectly entitled to vent about it.

He most certainly is. And if his stats show that unusual of a drop across an entire month and other folks can document something similar, then we run this up the flagpole.

until then, vent away.

[Hagen Zwosta]

Sjorpha, on 15 April 2024 - 11:09 AM, said:

Your stats are perfectly normal: https://leaderboard....?u=Hagen+Zwosta

As I said it is coming up again, it seems to have stopped.
So whatever has happened is (hopefully) over.
Having fun again, with normal matches.

[martian]

Hagen Zwosta, on 15 April 2024 - 11:33 AM, said:

As I said it is coming up again, it seems to have stopped.
So whatever has happened is (hopefully) over.
Having fun again, with normal matches.

There are many variables: Time of day, work day or weekend, event or no event, new weapons, new 'Mechs, etc.

[Davegt27]

martian, on 14 April 2024 - 05:57 AM, said:

As far as I know, there is no such list in MWO.

well I have seen a crappy player list

Edited by Davegt27, 15 April 2024 - 02:10 PM.

[martian]

Davegt27, on 15 April 2024 - 02:10 PM, said:

well I have seen a crappy player list

Yes?

[Gasboy]

Jon Gotham, on 15 April 2024 - 10:53 AM, said:

It is ENTIRELY possible he is one of the previously mentioned outliers, from his current sample size. He is also perfectly entitled to vent about it.

Never said they couldn't vent about it. I did suggest that things can happen in streaks. You can have a bunch of bad games in a row for all sorts of reasons.

It is just silly, however, to think that the game, or PGI, hates him or is 'punishing' him for 'reasons'.

Davegt27, on 15 April 2024 - 02:10 PM, said:

well I have seen a crappy player list

I'll bite. Pics or it didn't happen. Also please include context.

Edited by Gasboy, 16 April 2024 - 06:10 AM.

[Hagen Zwosta]

Gasboy, on 16 April 2024 - 06:09 AM, said:

It is just silly, however, to think that the game, or PGI, hates him or is 'punishing' him for 'reasons'.

I only asked if the MM was changed or if there is a shitlist as in other games. That is all. No idea why that gets your panties all twisted.

[GargoyleVine]

Hagen Zwosta, on 13 April 2024 - 04:58 AM, said:

It is so bad that I will not be able to complete the free mech event. Because I wont be able to get 5 wins.
Normally I am done after 2-3 days even if stuff like a cockpit kill is required.

It is so bad that I refuse to play when my first game is a loss. So the last 2 weeks I played 1 game each day for 12 days. And on 2 days I played 2 games. Because I actually won one.

Or is there a **** list you can be put on?

dude you gotta play more than one or two matches, it is not un-common to get three crap matches in a row then get several good ones, it is the ebb and flow of the mech tide

[Davegt27]

Gasboy, on 16 April 2024 - 06:09 AM, said:

Never said they couldn't vent about it. I did suggest that things can happen in streaks. You can have a bunch of bad games in a row for all sorts of reasons.

It is just silly, however, to think that the game, or PGI, hates him or is 'punishing' him for 'reasons'.



I'll bite. Pics or it didn't happen. Also please include context.

well its against the COC
but PM me your e-mail and I can send it to you

oh and I looked most of them don't play MWO anymore

and most of them where better then me

[Stavus]

Hagen Zwosta, on 13 April 2024 - 04:58 AM, said:

It is so bad that I refuse to play when my first game is a loss.

well i hate to tell ya .. but most games aim for "coinflip" matching aka ... 50/50 win rate is the optimal balance (on average)

if you cant stomach a loss .. then i think you need to find a game where youre the best player in the world