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[Khale MacGregor]

To remove, ( i.e. Delete ) HPG Manifold and Emerald Vale and other "Fish Barrel" maps, Or at the very least change their randomness on map select to less than 0.0000005%.

Why you ask? because I just played 15 games and out of those 15, 10 of them were HPG. plus, several others in those games who were in the same drops, were complaining about it as well. And frankly this snipe-fest meta crap needs to vanish. This game is NOT Fortnite, CoD, or anything else like that, this is MWO! Out of the 35 maps currently in game, it's quite interesting to see when only a select few pop up instead of the rest.

Here is an idea! how about you REMOVE that feature permanently? No more choosing maps, just let that algorithm you take such pride in decide. The only thing that should be chosen is game mode. Thats it ( oh yeah, get rid of domination completely as well. ), Assault, Conquest, Dom, Skirmish. Not the map to be played on, but the mode. NOTHING ELSE!

Also, if you want to make this better, bring back every single "Classic" map modes. Like for instance, HPG Manifold Classic. The night time version of River City ( You know the one with the changing light during the match? ) Or how about Classic Caustic Valley? Or Classic Polar Highlands. And put all of them on the SAME random algorithm %-age.

I mean, who are you really trying to fool here? your player base? or yourselves? we all know you set these maps the way they are to cater to the whiny clanner sniper meta that use electronic assisted aiming tools and you want to talk about balance? Riiiight...

To those of you pilots who agree all these fish barrel maps need to go, Like this post and add in your feelings on why they need to go.

[Asylum Choir]

They keep being played because the sheeple keep voting for them. The only people at fault are the players themselves.

[pattonesque]

Khale MacGregor, on 28 August 2024 - 10:43 AM, said:

To remove, ( i.e. Delete ) HPG Manifold and Emerald Vale and other "Fish Barrel" maps, Or at the very least change their randomness on map select to less than 0.0000005%.

Why you ask? because I just played 15 games and out of those 15, 10 of them were HPG. plus, several others in those games who were in the same drops, were complaining about it as well. And frankly this snipe-fest meta crap needs to vanish. This game is NOT Fortnite, CoD, or anything else like that, this is MWO! Out of the 35 maps currently in game, it's quite interesting to see when only a select few pop up instead of the rest.

Here is an idea! how about you REMOVE that feature permanently? No more choosing maps, just let that algorithm you take such pride in decide. The only thing that should be chosen is game mode. Thats it ( oh yeah, get rid of domination completely as well. ), Assault, Conquest, Dom, Skirmish. Not the map to be played on, but the mode. NOTHING ELSE!

Also, if you want to make this better, bring back every single "Classic" map modes. Like for instance, HPG Manifold Classic. The night time version of River City ( You know the one with the changing light during the match? ) Or how about Classic Caustic Valley? Or Classic Polar Highlands. And put all of them on the SAME random algorithm %-age.

I mean, who are you really trying to fool here? your player base? or yourselves? we all know you set these maps the way they are to cater to the whiny clanner sniper meta that use electronic assisted aiming tools and you want to talk about balance? Riiiight...

To those of you pilots who agree all these fish barrel maps need to go, Like this post and add in your feelings on why they need to go.

all of those maps have incredible amounts of cover from the snipers on high ground. I can give you some tips for how to play them if you or others are having trouble there.

[Khale MacGregor]

My issue is not with snipers, I know how to defend against it, my issue is with PGI catering to that type of meta and only allowing a few maps to be put up on the map selection screen.

[pattonesque]

Khale MacGregor, on 28 August 2024 - 11:07 AM, said:

My issue is not with snipers, I know how to defend against it, my issue is with PGI catering to that type of meta and only allowing a few maps to be put up on the map selection screen.

but those maps don't cater to that style. they have good positions for snipers but also plenty of spots to brawl, play midrange, LRM, etc.

people see them and give up immediately the minute they get touched by a blue laser. if they played more appropriately I think they'd find there's a lot to do on those maps beside snipe.

I do agree that people tend to gravitate toward a few distinct maps (Vitric, HPG, Emerald, Canyon, Mining, Tourmaline, Frozen City Classic) but that's more an issue with the other maps being less-than-stellar IMO

[Battlemaster56]

Increase Hellbore chances by 50%!!! And reduce hpg, and mining collective by 75%

[Hawk819]

There's new map that's supposedly being worked on. No idea as to when it'll get a release date. Hopefully soon.

[Powerlifter]

Everyone has maps they like and dislike. I won't argue about that here as its largely preference.

I 100% agree that PGI should get rid of the map / mode select screen entirely and have that done automatically. Give each map the same % chance of being selected. Give each game mode the same % chance of being selected.

The big bonus here is removing one of the load screens and getting into the game more quickly. It takes WAY to long to load a game. Initial search time, mode select, loading into the team ready room, then another load screen, then slow animations while we drop.

That entire loading process from clicking quick play to being in control of the mech needs to be massively streamlined. The easiest starting point would be to remove the map/mode select and have that done automatically so that players can go from their mech bay to the team ready room directly.

[kalashnikity]

Khale MacGregor, on 28 August 2024 - 10:43 AM, said:

To remove, ( i.e. Delete ) HPG Manifold and Emerald Vale and other "Fish Barrel" maps, Or at the very least change their randomness on map select to less than 0.0000005%.

Why you ask? because I just played 15 games and out of those 15, 10 of them were HPG. plus, several others in those games who were in the same drops, were complaining about it as well. And frankly this snipe-fest meta crap needs to vanish. This game is NOT Fortnite, CoD, or anything else like that, this is MWO! Out of the 35 maps currently in game, it's quite interesting to see when only a select few pop up instead of the rest.

Here is an idea! how about you REMOVE that feature permanently? No more choosing maps, just let that algorithm you take such pride in decide. The only thing that should be chosen is game mode. Thats it ( oh yeah, get rid of domination completely as well. ), Assault, Conquest, Dom, Skirmish. Not the map to be played on, but the mode. NOTHING ELSE!

Also, if you want to make this better, bring back every single "Classic" map modes. Like for instance, HPG Manifold Classic. The night time version of River City ( You know the one with the changing light during the match? ) Or how about Classic Caustic Valley? Or Classic Polar Highlands. And put all of them on the SAME random algorithm %-age.

I mean, who are you really trying to fool here? your player base? or yourselves? we all know you set these maps the way they are to cater to the whiny clanner sniper meta that use electronic assisted aiming tools and you want to talk about balance? Riiiight...

To those of you pilots who agree all these fish barrel maps need to go, Like this post and add in your feelings on why they need to go.

Maps should have an equal chance to appear, yet it appears clear that there is preference in the coding. I've seen the same types of thing, same few maps over and over again, yet other maps are very rare to show up in the selection voting.

[simon1812]

but how else will snipers play?

[VeeOt Dragon]

yeah i do find that certain maps appear suspiciously often in the selection screen. this game has how many active maps (not sure the number but its decent enough) and every time of the 4 maps one is always either canyon or oddly enough Mining Collective.

as for Domination meh its not my favorite (that is Conquest) but i will take anything over skirmish. (ok perhaps not Escort, that mode was real horse ****)

[Bassault]

Sniping continues to get kicked in the balls with nerfs over and over and people still claim to have a sniper meta... I guess the sniper meta will finally go away when pugs can sit afk for 2 mins infront of enlarges and survive with all their armor intact.

[Rondoe]

The Map I hate!!! the most is Alpine Peaks. Seems like the team that gets to the highground first at that certain canyon (in domination it's where the beacon is) Always ends up winning.

I have seen and it is rare that all the fighting ends up happening west of it-those times were fun. Usually happens when someone takes lead and directs everyone off to that side and make them come to us (if the other team cooperates and don't just sit at the canyon waiting for us to come to them-LoL!