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[iStompUrFace]

The Madcat is my favorite mech in the whole franchise and i would like to see it in game. Mainly because it was just downright visious in the other games. Got any suggestions on wich mech they should have in the game?

[Volomon]

booooo

[Ranek Blackstone]

Clan mech. and we're IS pilots. You won't get a clan mech for years to come,

[Icebound]

Also I think they mentioned that someone else holds the copyright to the Madcat and is ready to sue the crap out of them for using any of the "unseen" mechs.

[CobraFive]

Icebound, on 28 July 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

Also I think they mentioned that someone else holds the copyright to the Madcat and is ready to sue the crap out of them for using any of the "unseen" mechs.

No, the Madcat isn't one of the unseen mechs.

You're probably thinking of the Marauder.

[Dwar]

Actualy the madcat/timberwolf eventualy made it into the general market , it did start as a clan mech though ... either way its befor the timeline we have set .

[Adridos]

Icebound, on 28 July 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

Also I think they mentioned that someone else holds the copyright to the Madcat and is ready to sue the crap out of them for using any of the "unseen" mechs.

No, but the mad Cat is the one that started all the crap. Harmony Gold copied it and when they got sued, they pulled a dirty trick at FASA. A-holes...

As for the Mad Cat, here's the message by one of the main developers: http://soundcloud.co...-communications

Edited by Adridos, 28 July 2012 - 02:30 PM.

[Popgun]

Adridos, on 28 July 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

No, but the mad Cat is the one that started all the crap. Harmony Gold copied it and when they got sued, they pulled a dirty trick at FASA. A-holes...

You have this backwards, Harmony Gold and Playmates went after FASA. And the Mad Cat had nothing to do with it. This had to do with Harmony Gold licensing the source material from Studio Nue, and Playmates the toy lines from Tatsunoko, whereas FASA had licensed the model kits from Twentieth Century Imports.

[Adridos]

Popgun, on 28 July 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:

You have this backwards, Harmony Gold and Playmates went after FASA. And the Mad Cat had nothing to do with it. This had to do with Harmony Gold licensing the source material from Studio Nue, and Playmates the toy lines from Tatsunoko, whereas FASA had licensed the model kits from Twentieth Century Imports.

Seems familiar?


This was released by one of the companies under Harmony Gold. When FASA took them to court, they found out that because of the Harmony Gold's aqusition of the former company, the rights FASA paid for were unusable in the US. How the court turned out you already know.

[wanderer]

Someone didn't read the FAQ, apparently.

[Icebound]

Popgun, on 28 July 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:

You have this backwards, Harmony Gold and Playmates went after FASA. And the Mad Cat had nothing to do with it. This had to do with Harmony Gold licensing the source material from Studio Nue, and Playmates the toy lines from Tatsunoko, whereas FASA had licensed the model kits from Twentieth Century Imports.

The plot thickens...

Adridos, on 28 July 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:

Seems familiar?

Holy crap so much nostalgia from that pic.

[empath]

Well, it's even MORE complex than has previously stated:

• Studio Nue draw up some giant robot designs, but don't yet have any story or project to put them in,
  
• FASA licenses the artwork from Studio Nue, through Twentieth Century Imports,
  
• FASA makes BattleDroidsTech,
  
• Studio Nue makes Super Dimension Fortress Macross,
  
• Studio Nue offloads ALL international licensing of SDFM to Tatsunuko,
  
• Harmony Gold licenses SDFM from Tatsunuko, two other anime and mashes them all together into Robotech,
  
• FASA develops the Clan artwork, story, novels and game supplements,
  
• FASA enters talks with Playmates (at the time independent of Harmony Gold) about latter making toys/tv show based on #7,
  
• Playmates peruses the art, then declines FASA's offers,
  
• Playmates works up and releases Exo-squad,
  
• FASA freaks out, files suit against Playmates,
  
• Harmony Gold hears of other people holding North American rights to artwork their cash cow is BASED ON from court filings,
  
• Judge files in favour of Playmates (how shoddy was the plaintiff's case & arguments to fail against THIS obvious infringement?), but awards nothing to either party,
  
• Both FASA and Playmates now financially weakened by legal fees,
  
• Harmony Gold buys up Playmates//Harmony Gold files suit against FASA, (not sure of the order there)
  
• FASA - now gun shy of the courts, enters into out-of-court (and behind closed doors) settlement with Harmony Gold,
  
• FASA purges ALL out-of-house, licensed artwork from ANY source that isn't FASA itself,
  
• Studio Nue assists FASA with Project Phoenix in creating new art for the 'Reseen'.

Also, somewhere in there: ##. Twentieth Century Imports goes out of business.

And what have we learned from this?

• Jordan couldn't argue his way out of a cobweb,
  
• Harmony Gold isn't evil-evil-evil, just a company protecting its interests,
  
• Studio Nue are well-intentioned, but ultimately not helpful,
  
• Lawyers are evil and should be KOS *waves to Gwyd*

[Enig]

To simplify, PGI has the rights to use the clan mechs, including the Timber Wolf, but have no stated that they will at this point?

[empath]

Correct; the game is set 1 year before the Clan Invasion breaks out across the Inner Sphere, and the ONLY official word PGI has said regarding 'Kerensky's Children':

Quote

Q. Will the Clans make an appearance or cameo?

A.

[Xathanael]

[Fuzzyhead]

Xathanael, on 28 July 2012 - 04:15 PM, said:

is that now canon to use?

[Xathanael]

Fuzzyhead, on 28 July 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

is that now canon to use?

yes it is

[SakuranoSenshi]

Madcat (Timberwolf) was the catalyst. as a result the legality of the so-called 'unseen' models was established and sadly, for us, the decision was against FASA.

[Fuzzyhead]

Xathanael, on 28 July 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

yes it is

iam ok with it

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

To quote Paul.

"you're still not getting your freaking madcat."