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[Lincoln Cross]

Yeah. This thing definately needs a cooldown reduction. Or at least add some hard points to the arms to give it some DPS. It's a sitting duck when something decides to push you even just a little.

[1453 R]

Lincoln Cross, on 24 March 2025 - 02:00 PM, said:

Yeah. This thing definately needs a cooldown reduction. Or at least add some hard points to the arms to give it some DPS. It's a sitting duck when something decides to push you even just a little.

That's sorta the point. It's a "Goofy Goober" legend, meant to do something nothing else can even remotely do but at the cost of being bad at most everything else. Being terrible at pushing/being pushed is the price it pays for that crazy hitscan power.

[Lincoln Cross]

1453 R, on 24 March 2025 - 03:02 PM, said:

That's sorta the point. It's a "Goofy Goober" legend, meant to do something nothing else can even remotely do but at the cost of being bad at most everything else. Being terrible at pushing/being pushed is the price it pays for that crazy hitscan power.

That may be the case. But I'm sorry. The bad does not equal the good. It is a kiss/curse that favors way more on the curse side. It's a badly balanced mech for how the game is presently designed.\

And wanted to put in here that it is my opinion from using the mech as is. I'm a tier 5er, so YMMV.

Edited by Lincoln Cross, 24 March 2025 - 05:42 PM.

[Ttly]

Lincoln Cross, on 24 March 2025 - 02:00 PM, said:

Yeah. This thing definately needs a cooldown reduction. Or at least add some hard points to the arms to give it some DPS. It's a sitting duck when something decides to push you even just a little.

Well they could give it cooldown (in exchange for duration quirks I'd hope) so that it would have 4s cooldown (from HLL's 5.5) to be closer to the 2BLC (3.2-3.5s) IS Mediums, but then you'd have to ask, what'd be the point of those IS Meds then when the Sigma has the tonnage advantage (higher base armor count, flexibility of DHS/TC, what have you), just as much DPS and so on, it's already encroaching on their niche as is even, with the only argument the Trebuchet could have is "having some medium lasers as secondaries" like this at best.

I mean I'm up for more Trebuchet and Kintaro buffs either I guess, seeing as apparently the Sigma set precedence (we'll see how much of it sticks) of allowing even shorter burns (which the Trebuchet received "too much" of and nerfed [-50% now -40%] last month with the patch notes even remarking it as "oops we gave it too much teehee") and such.
Could just add actual missile quirks on those two to make them more unique than just 2BLC maybe? Oh and don't forget about the Assassin, the ASN-101 is pretty obviously a forgotten wannabe of this sort of build type too, just sitting there not getting real buffs in however long since.

Edited by Ttly, 24 March 2025 - 08:13 PM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Seems like you're trying to setup a strawman argument by saying anybody is suggesting a ~27% cooldown buff. I think starting at 5-10% seems fine given it also pays for short duration thanks to the crazy extra heat (which also helps keep the build in check, despite the numerous heat sinks). I mean, have you compared the burst DPS of the two mechs you are trying to even compare? The Treb has twice the burst DPS of the Sigma and roughly the same sustained DPS.

Edited by Quicksilver Aberration, 24 March 2025 - 09:09 PM.

[Asylum Choir]

GreyNovember, on 24 March 2025 - 01:00 PM, said:

I'll take your word for the comparison.

Though those alpha numbers are always something I take with a grain of salt.

You're usually not doing all 96 instantly, in one location, with no spread.

Yes of course. But you do enough, in large enough amounts to cripple them at least way faster than they can chew through you.
Plus, I'm distinctly average at best so my sigma skills may be lacking...

[kalashnikity]

I think a lot of people are missing the real point of this mech, The massive mobility buff gained by having those Jump Jets.

replace the arms with energy, and unleash the wubs. I'm thinking 2LPL in the torsos, and 4MPL in the arms should do nicely (just guessing, it might take one or two more MPL without being too hot or shaving TOO MUCH Armor IDK).

Or 2 HLL and 4HML, then fill it up with heat sinks?

Two HML is a non starter IMHO, not enough alpha in this meta.

might also do 2 HLL and 6 ERML, just to pack in more heat sinks, have to do some mech lab experiments to find out.

[Rabid Imp]

Ttly, on 23 March 2025 - 01:23 PM, said:

0.1s 36 damage burn from 2HLL real money only vehicle that is Sigma? Totally fine!
0.6s 36 damage burn from 2BLC from the likes of Trebuchet-5J or Kintaro-20? Well that should be nerfed to 0.7s!
I mean there was some sort of acknowledgement on how much damage such short of a laser burn should be months ago there, but it just went missing here.

Anyway, it's just really annoying having Sigmas running around (especially when played by people that can actually aim that 0.1s burn) if you're playing a light or medium. Enjoy getting legged like never before.

Basically this. they are not bad when pressed or when going up against heavier/more firepower mechs. On a light however you can lose your leg near instantly at 500m with hitscan aim. At least that has been my experience with them, very dangerous to lights and some mediums, but just annoying for most others.

[Asylum Choir]

Rabid Imp, on 25 March 2025 - 07:44 PM, said:

Basically this. they are not bad when pressed or when going up against heavier/more firepower mechs. On a light however you can lose your leg near instantly at 500m with hitscan aim. At least that has been my experience with them, very dangerous to lights and some mediums, but just annoying for most others.

Though karmic justice for those stealth/ecm narc bois. I cannot profess to feeling guilt for legging them:)

[MechWarrior414712]

This mech needs laser duration nerf and compensate with cooldown. It looks stupid when the beam is barely visible.

[kalashnikity]

Played against a stock sigma on Solaris, it was painful. I lost badly.

FWIW, my K/D was about 27/3 and that Sigma was one of my few losses.

It's basically the hit scan version of PPFLD, they just sat there waiting for me to turn enough to expose my CT and then ZAP!

I was not expecting that, at all.