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#1 Flash Riprock

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 02:03 PM

The Fire Moth event is over and thus, the Moths are vanishing. They were are so OP, everyone stopped using them when it was no longer benficial (insert sarcasm).

Or is that the armor got adjusted down?

I bought all of them, played during event and after. I am back to my Fleas, Locusts and Spiders now.

I never thought they were that OP. And with the armor adjustment, it is even less so. They should have added some leg armor with that adjustment.

Another Legend bought and then nerfed. Oh well. I guess I will learn one day...

#2 GreyNovember

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 05:32 PM

I'm still running them to great delight.

40 damage in the back with ECM, then getting away at 200KPH is enough to get an entire kill squad dedicated to you.

Almost 60 damage closer with Heavy Smalls, without ECM, is much spicier.

As it turns out, new shiny syndrome wears off and things normalize back to "Big robot power fantasy".

#3 1Exitar1

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 05:52 PM

I bought the entire pack, played them once or twice and didn't even bother with the event. I hated them. Oh well. The little bit of money I spent goes toward keeping the game afloat!

#4 Saved By The Bell

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Posted 23 March 2025 - 10:12 PM

Armor bug helped them.

But of course, elitists prefer mechs with animation bugs.

Tell me, how to kill arctic cheetah with erPPC, who is jumping little before my assault, 50% no hits reg at all.

Edited by Saved By The Bell, 23 March 2025 - 10:13 PM.


#5 Samziel

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Posted 24 March 2025 - 01:40 AM

View PostSaved By The Bell, on 23 March 2025 - 10:12 PM, said:

Armor bug helped them.

But of course, elitists prefer mechs with animation bugs.

Tell me, how to kill arctic cheetah with erPPC, who is jumping little before my assault, 50% no hits reg at all.


Iirc the armor bug only affected rear torsos. Which obviously helped but wasnt like the mech was unkillable.

I think people played them so much they just want to play something else for change. Its still a good mech.

Edited by Samziel, 24 March 2025 - 01:41 AM.


#6 GreyNovember

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Posted 24 March 2025 - 04:21 AM

View PostSaved By The Bell, on 23 March 2025 - 10:12 PM, said:

my assault, 50% no hits reg at all.


I'm sensing a pattern.

It's almost like whatever the latest thing an assault pilot fights, is the problem.

And it changes entirely based on short term memory.

It's not because their weapon choice has spread damage, nor is it because they're probably firing 1 or 2 at a time, doing 10 damage to a location, probably to the front armor when they hit.

And they definitely did not miss. They never miss, at all.

It's because the target is somehow playing unfairly and it's their fault.

View PostSamziel, on 24 March 2025 - 01:40 AM, said:

Iirc the armor bug only affected rear torsos. Which obviously helped but wasnt like the mech was unkillable.


From how people cried

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MOTH INVINCIBLE

DOESNT TAKE DAMAGE AT ALL

I SHOT IT WHY WONT IT DIE


I'm convinced it would have been complained about being both a new flavor AND as something that doesn't fit Big Stompy philosophy.

#7 BlueDevilspawn

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Posted 24 March 2025 - 11:38 AM

1. There's a huge "shiny new mech" syndrome in MWO.... newest mechs are always most popular
2. There was a leaderboard event, the first in years, with significant rewards
3. The best way to kill a FMT has been and still is to leg it; to link it to a "nerf" is a leap.

#8 T Hawk

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Posted 24 March 2025 - 01:51 PM

They are not viable in non-competitive environments. It's all a damage and kill grind. Running around fast doesn't get you any rewards in this game.

#9 Meep Meep

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Posted 25 March 2025 - 12:08 PM

Most of the ones who bought them can't play them well and abandoned them. As per my own play the armor bug did nothing to help with survivability as everyone shoots the legs. In fairness I was probably saved from a backshot a few random times due to it but again 99% of the time I die to getting legged. They are very strong lights but they also have a high skill floor to be able to leverage that strength.

#10 kalashnikity

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Posted 25 March 2025 - 12:39 PM

I'm burned out playing it for the time being, I spent (was it two weeks?) playing it almost exclusively.

I'm sure I'll play a few matches here and there, once the mood hits.

I've got ~500 mechs, I like to give them all love.

#11 Gasboy

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Posted Today, 12:37 AM

View PostGreyNovember, on 24 March 2025 - 04:21 AM, said:


I'm sensing a pattern.

It's almost like whatever the latest thing an assault pilot fights, is the problem.

And it changes entirely based on short term memory.

It's not because their weapon choice has spread damage, nor is it because they're probably firing 1 or 2 at a time, doing 10 damage to a location, probably to the front armor when they hit.

And they definitely did not miss. They never miss, at all.

It's because the target is somehow playing unfairly and it's their fault.



From how people cried


I'm convinced it would have been complained about being both a new flavor AND as something that doesn't fit Big Stompy philosophy.


Hit reg bugs are a known issue. It's not new.

It is likely because the Fire Moth is riding the line of how much the game can handle.

I could take out my Locust 1V (the one that had a ridiculous energy/PPC cooldown) and hit people with PPC shots so fast most of them do not register damage. Has nothing to do with assault pilots "complaints".

From my experience in comp play, poor hit reg is the reason why lights survive hits they have no business surviving.





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