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[1Exitar1]

I have had matches with a certain person that was on my team. No I am not going to name the person as i know that is against the rules. I have only had a few matches with him on my team and during the first one, I muted him and then blocked him. We all know that Block doesn't work every single match. Yesterday was one of those matches. He takes control of the company and spams the 'Go Here', 'Defend this position' commands and then starts moving out. As soon as he starts moving out he spams the 'HELP' command every time he can. As we are walking to the other side of the map it is a constant HELP!, HELP!, HELP! We are in the fight HELP! It is so freaking annoying!! Then he gets killed (one of the first and probably because he is busy looking at the battle map and telling us who to target and where to go) and one of his buddies starts berating us over comms about how we could have won this if we had just done as he said. I get killed shortly thereafter and leave the match as fast as possible.

How do you get players to stop spamming HELP and the commands?? Blocking doesn't do it.

[Kamiko Kross]

Would the game have gone better if you had listened?
Maybe the first question to be asked.
Then after death you leave? You could spend that time looking at other players-their builds and playstyle etc. You could call out stuff for people that you spot and they don't over comms etc.

[LordNothing]

to be fair i dont respond to people spamming the command wheel or spending too long trying to explain his overcomplicated strat in coms. having dropped in a few coordinated fp games i know that brevity is a lot more useful than detail. call out where you want to set up, and mech callouts, letter designation, mech class and component is sufficient. passive aggressive calls have little or no command presence.

[GreyNovember]

That exact sequence of events sounds very similar to some drops earlier.

I just straight up don't have voice on, and make a habit of instantly blocking people who show any sort of lashing out.

80% of everything you need to do can be done with "Enemy Spotted" or very quick callouts ( "ECM MAD II, D4, Alone) directed at nobody in particular.

[Ttly]

What, you mean that guy who takes company command just spams "move here" to do reverse NASCAR as if it's totally a game winning move and not an excuse to just have people that don't know better to act as meatshield while they play some cheese sniperboat to damage farm with?
No, you can't block the voice command spam.

[Ken Harkin]

Sorry but when people start a match by spamming "HELP" I write them off as a a pain in the *** and ignore them.

Now if someone makes a clear call over chat or command I am all for it. At the start of every match I wish the team goodluck over voicechat. Over the course of the match I will call out if there is something flanking, sniping, etc. as clearly and concisely as possible. I am not one for the command wheel but do have the voicechat hot keyed and don't abuse it.

[LordNothing]

people who spend most of the match alone and out of position tend to use it a lot. at best the chances are whoever responds wont get there in time. at worst they go there and also end up dead and now the team is down two players.

in either case the team is blamed because they didn't help. even though the person dead probibly wasn't a team player to begin with.

Edited by LordNothing, 27 March 2025 - 05:17 AM.

[sycocys]

Someone modded warhorns out, I'm sure you could find a way to convince them to mod out the wheel commands.

Otherwise turn the volume off and listen to Britney Spears, it will at least be slightly less annoying.

[1453 R]

While Company Command spamming and especially "Help!" spamming are annoying and counterproductive to be sure.

HOWEVER. Some of this comes down to the absolute abject cowardice of the playerbase as a general whole, and their complete and utter unwillingness to engage the enemy unless they have an overwhelming advantage. Some players decide they're fed up, and will use the only communication tools they know actually go through - company command and command wheel - to try and get people to moooove.

If you're one of those people camping behind a rock twelve hundred meters from any known enemy sighting, waiting until your team is up by six to actually begin moving to engage the enemy? ESPECIALLY if you're one of those people who has voice comms turned off? You are contributing to the problem causing a lot of this sort of issue. A lot of folks on this very forum respond to other threads where someone asks "how do I get my team to SHOOT THE ENEMY before the eight-minute mark?!" with "if you don't like what your team is doing, issue calls and get them doing something else."

Show gainful aggression, bring wrath and ruin to your foes, and maybe someday stuff like this will be a vanishing rarity because folks won't feel the need to try and club their teammates into remembering they're piloting multi-ton engines of brutal war designed to shatter lives and dreams.

Tangentially related side note: if you play with voice comms off, you're automatically the worst player on your team. No exceptions. I'd rather have a raw cadet with comms on and willing to listen to calls than the highest-ranked Jarls player with their comms off. Do! Not! listen to the people who tell you to play with comms off

Edited by 1453 R, 27 March 2025 - 06:35 AM.

[1Exitar1]

Kamiko Kross, on 26 March 2025 - 08:14 PM, said:

Would the game have gone better if you had listened?
Maybe the first question to be asked.
Then after death you leave? You could spend that time looking at other players-their builds and playstyle etc. You could call out stuff for people that you spot and they don't over comms etc.

Would have gone better if 'I' had listened? Who said I didn't? I was right there next to him as he spammed HELP. Almost the entire team was there. He was at the front and I was there to back him up. If someone has a plan at the beginning, I am willing to go along with it; if it makes sense.

Yes, I left after I died because I do not like to be yelled at over comms and blamed for everything that had gone wrong. In short I don't like to be harassed.

@LordNothing - I will say that he lead the group to his objective and he stayed in the forefront, but he wasn't using cover. He just stood in the open and died and then got mad at us. No point in standing in the open if you're waiting for your weapons to recycle or you need to cool down!

[Duke Falcon]

1453 R, on 27 March 2025 - 06:33 AM, said:

While Company Command spamming and especially "Help!" spamming are annoying and counterproductive to be sure.

HOWEVER. Some of this comes down to the absolute abject cowardice of the playerbase as a general whole, and their complete and utter unwillingness to engage the enemy unless they have an overwhelming advantage. Some players decide they're fed up, and will use the only communication tools they know actually go through - company command and command wheel - to try and get people to moooove.

If you're one of those people camping behind a rock twelve hundred meters from any known enemy sighting, waiting until your team is up by six to actually begin moving to engage the enemy? ESPECIALLY if you're one of those people who has voice comms turned off? You are contributing to the problem causing a lot of this sort of issue. A lot of folks on this very forum respond to other threads where someone asks "how do I get my team to SHOOT THE ENEMY before the eight-minute mark?!" with "if you don't like what your team is doing, issue calls and get them doing something else."

Show gainful aggression, bring wrath and ruin to your foes, and maybe someday stuff like this will be a vanishing rarity because folks won't feel the need to try and club their teammates into remembering they're piloting multi-ton engines of brutal war designed to shatter lives and dreams.

Tangentially related side note: if you play with voice comms off, you're automatically the worst player on your team. No exceptions. I'd rather have a raw cadet with comms on and willing to listen to calls than the highest-ranked Jarls player with their comms off. Do! Not! listen to the people who tell you to play with comms off

I turned comm of by a reason: Idiots...
I am not against comms IF it used to coordinate actions. But I do not want to hear about political-, racial-,sexual-, name-whatever-you-want-opinions ALL along a f**king match. Mute the brainboys sometimes not worked. If worked then other brainboys spawned from the pits of Acheron (or @s$hol3, no clue nor wish to have)...
After a while everybody may reach that point: Either turn comms of and listen music or go and KILL THE FRIGGIN WORLD FOR SUREEEEE!!!

...
F_ck, wait! The second option is just so much better!
Mea culpa! Why I chosen comms off? WHY?!?

Hey, 1Exitar1, you met N C M D? <CoC violation, do not read this!
My condolences!

[1453 R]

Funny how I never turn comms off and only run into charged conversations once in a blue moon - and I'm openly trans and proudly display the Trans and Progressive pride flags on basically all my 'Mechs.

Occasional goobers are no reason to disable comms, especially when a mute button exists. My point stands: if you turn off comms, you are automatically the worst player on every single team you're on. You COMPLETELY lose the ability to coordinate with your allies in any meaningful way.

When you turn off comms, you can't hear the recon 'Mech say "don't turn that corner, entire team", turn the corner, and get vaporized like an idiot no matter how ub3r l33t your sKiLz are.

When you turn off comms, you can't hear the guy beside you call out "Hotel Atlas, weak shoulder" and know to focus the STs on the Hotel Atlas, thus allowing that guy to keep that half of his 'Mech and wreck you with it no matter how ub3r l33t your sKiLz are.

When you turn off comms, you can't hear your teammate call out "stealth sniper, Echo 6" and thus have no idea that goober even exists, thus allowing him to ping Gauss rounds off your keister plates free and clear without issue no matter how ub3r l33t your sKiLz are.

Turning off comms is the greatest gift you can give the OpFor in any game of MWO, and I'm not in the business of helping people aid and abet the enemy.

[The_Incredible_Hulk]

Ttly, on 27 March 2025 - 01:45 AM, said:

What, you mean that guy who takes company command just spams "move here" to do reverse NASCAR as if it's totally a game winning move and not an excuse to just have people that don't know better to act as meatshield while they play some cheese sniperboat to damage farm with?
No, you can't block the voice command spam.

maybe its because most of the time.. the team just ends up nascaring anyways despite actual good suggested positions and firing lines needed for the ranged players that will help YOU in cross fire while YOU are pushing, or trying to get in position to shoot as well without much punishment .. OR you may be "one of those guys" and ignore suggested positions, do your own thing.. and blame certain others for you dying 2-5 mins into the match. the choice is yours.

[kalashnikity]

I was hoping you would be talking about that guy in a javelin with 6 Rocket Launcher 20's who suicides after a one shot kill.

[Kamiko Kross]

1453 R, on 27 March 2025 - 06:33 AM, said:

While Company Command spamming and especially "Help!" spamming are annoying and counterproductive to be sure.

HOWEVER. Some of this comes down to the absolute abject cowardice of the playerbase as a general whole, and their complete and utter unwillingness to engage the enemy unless they have an overwhelming advantage. Some players decide they're fed up, and will use the only communication tools they know actually go through - company command and command wheel - to try and get people to moooove.

If you're one of those people camping behind a rock twelve hundred meters from any known enemy sighting, waiting until your team is up by six to actually begin moving to engage the enemy? ESPECIALLY if you're one of those people who has voice comms turned off? You are contributing to the problem causing a lot of this sort of issue. A lot of folks on this very forum respond to other threads where someone asks "how do I get my team to SHOOT THE ENEMY before the eight-minute mark?!" with "if you don't like what your team is doing, issue calls and get them doing something else."

Show gainful aggression, bring wrath and ruin to your foes, and maybe someday stuff like this will be a vanishing rarity because folks won't feel the need to try and club their teammates into remembering they're piloting multi-ton engines of brutal war designed to shatter lives and dreams.

Tangentially related side note: if you play with voice comms off, you're automatically the worst player on your team. No exceptions. I'd rather have a raw cadet with comms on and willing to listen to calls than the highest-ranked Jarls player with their comms off. Do! Not! listen to the people who tell you to play with comms off

I wish more players thought like you:(

OP, wether you want ot be "harassed" or not-sometimes you will be and sometimes you should be. Sometimes you don't.
That's life. If I deserve it-I'll take it on the chin and try to not do what caused the other person to be mad at me.

[PurplePuke]

I suspect I might've been in the same game. The player in question was only adding confusion to the battlefield. Battlefield communications should be brief and clear. Narrating and haranguing your teammates repeatedly is not helpful. I always mute people like that.

[Gasboy]

1453 R, on 27 March 2025 - 06:33 AM, said:

HOWEVER.  Some of this comes down to the absolute abject cowardice of the playerbase as a general whole, and their complete and utter unwillingness to engage the enemy unless they have an overwhelming advantage.  Some players decide they're fed up, and will use the only communication tools they know actually go through - company command and command wheel - to try and get people to moooove.

This has nothing to do with people spamming the radio commands.

Not everyone who tells people where to go and who to shoot knows what they're doing.  Some people spend the entire time in the countdown to the start of the match spamming "take command" and "relinquish command".  I'm disinclined to pay attention to people who do that.  I don't care if they're the third coming of MacArthur or Patton.

And if you run off in a direction and find the team's gon the other direction, perhaps you should go back to the team instead of spamming for them to come to you.

The saying is "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."  Dying somewhere alone spamming help won't earn you any valor points.  If the team won't follow you... you should follow the team.

Edited by Gasboy, 28 March 2025 - 04:14 PM.

[KursedVixen]

1Exitar1, on 26 March 2025 - 07:55 PM, said:

I have had matches with a certain person that was on my team. No I am not going to name the person as i know that is against the rules. I have only had a few matches with him on my team and during the first one, I muted him and then blocked him. We all know that Block doesn't work every single match. Yesterday was one of those matches. He takes control of the company and spams the 'Go Here', 'Defend this position' commands and then starts moving out. As soon as he starts moving out he spams the 'HELP' command every time he can. As we are walking to the other side of the map it is a constant HELP!, HELP!, HELP! We are in the fight HELP! It is so freaking annoying!! Then he gets killed (one of the first and probably because he is busy looking at the battle map and telling us who to target and where to go) and one of his buddies starts berating us over comms about how we could have won this if we had just done as he said. I get killed shortly thereafter and leave the match as fast as possible.

How do you get players to stop spamming HELP and the commands?? Blocking doesn't do it.

I do grow tired of non-game related chat...

[1453 R]

Gasboy, on 28 March 2025 - 04:11 PM, said:

This has nothing to do with people spamming the radio commands.

Not everyone who tells people where to go and who to shoot knows what they're doing. Some people spend the entire time in the countdown to the start of the match spamming "take command" and "relinquish command". I'm disinclined to pay attention to people who do that. I don't care if they're the third coming of MacArthur or Patton.

And if you run off in a direction and find the team's gon the other direction, perhaps you should go back to the team instead of spamming for them to come to you.

The saying is "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink." Dying somewhere alone spamming help won't earn you any valor points. If the team won't follow you... you should follow the team.

Valid.

Mostly, I suppose it always just galls me to see people complaining about other folks' attempts to direct the match. Yeah, some of the people who do so are nimduts and do it in the most obnoxious, anti-helpful way possible. But I would counterbalance that by saying the overwhelming majority of players get onto the map, do the EXACT SAME THING they do on that map every time they drop on it, and then they're shocked - shocked! - when their game goes poorly LIKE IT DOES EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY DO THE EXACT SAME STUPID THING THEY DO EVERY TIME THEY DROP.

It's like there's some sort of physical disconnect between people's ability to learn and MWO, some sort of air gap in the human brain. Half the time I die and get a Red Arrow of Suck, it's because I'm trying a new angle or a new tactic to try and break the infininitely monotonous gameplan of "let's huddle behind whatever this map's equivalent of the E6 Low Ground is and mill like fish in a pond until someone on either side of this 24-man failure fiesta grows a spine and remembers what 'aggression' means!"

Yeesh.

[1Exitar1]

KursedVixen, on 28 March 2025 - 05:37 PM, said:

I do grow tired of non-game related chat...

I don't care if you want to chat during the match. Go for it. But, when you are leading the group in a certain direction that you have already marked on the battle map and constantly spam the HELP command, it becomes not just annoying but it pisses people off. Someone needs help at the back of the group, sorry but your calls have been lost in the forest of HELPS from the leader of the group just wanting you to go in a certain direction. Which happened in that match! The opposing team had circled around to our side and the mechs were calling for help and we were all ignoring it because of the leader spamming it from the start.

Heck, I just played a match where the players were bantering back and forth. It can be fun to listen to! You know what isn't fun to listen to? HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP from a guy that doesn't need it.