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[nanashi0110]

I have a few thoughts on the NOBLE c-ISAC20.
Is there a time in the future when IS weapons (especially RAC/XPL/MRM/TB) will be used by the clans?
I continue to wait for the time when the fun weapons in the CLAN will be available...

edit:
sry,I posted this in Japanese.

Edited by nanashi0110, 27 May 2025 - 09:12 PM.

[Ttly]

I sure would slap on IS-ERMLs over on some builds instead of C-ERMLs just for how much less heat they have.

[LordNothing]

mixtech is problematic in that it will obsolete a lot of weapons. in most cases everyone would just use the clan version. there are some cases for going the other way, eg is lb2s on a clan 8x+ hardpoint boat. is ac2s are also smaller than their clan counterpart so you can cram in more ammo. what it would really shine at is weapon synergies so you can sync up your ppfld velocities or your laser ranges. not to mention circumventing ghost heat limits.

what i think could be done is give certain mechs an upgrade option that allows it to switch tech base. this might cost tonnage or come with additional slot requirements (eg putting "adapter" equipment in any component with hardpoints, which may also cost tonnage). so you can do a clan/is tech conversion of anything, but it will cost you. ideally this would be greyed out except certain variants. the conversion is one or the other.

another thing i can see being done, is omnimechs which sometime have omnipods with clan hardware as fixed equipment. we have already seen it done the other way.

clan weapon compatibility as quirks could work on a weapon by weapon basis. where a mech is allowed to use a specific mixtech weapon, or weapon family and a mech could have more than one.

Edited by LordNothing, 27 May 2025 - 01:57 PM.

[Battlemaster56]

I think mixtech should only be on variants that features mix tech but only for the installed weapon and equipment type just to curb making broken combos of weapons, other wise it should be limited and kept a close eye on, also keep the quirks to a minimum.

Edited by Battlemaster56, 27 May 2025 - 02:30 PM.

[LordNothing]

at this point you need the mix tech novelty to keep people buying stuff. most of the stuff i buy is because it does something different. different usually does not mean good.

[Battlemaster56]

LordNothing, on 27 May 2025 - 02:59 PM, said:

at this point you need the mix tech novelty to keep people buying stuff. most of the stuff i buy is because it does something different. different usually does not mean good.

Yea I'm looking through sarna for any mixed tech variants with our current listing of mechs and it's a slog to go through atm.

[HenryF2P]

no one will use IS Gauss over Clan Gauss...

[nanashi0110]

Honestly, my desire is just to use RAC, XPL and TB in CLAN.
In my opinion, the weapons in CLAN are less interesting than in IS. (Although they are solid and excellent instead...)
I think it would be very nice if we could share an armament that is fun to use.
As an idea to realize this, the implementation of dedicated adapters and omnipods seems like a very good one.

Edited by nanashi0110, 28 May 2025 - 10:44 AM.

[CFC Conky]

Personally, I wouldn't mind having a snub-nose ppc type weapon for my Clan mechs.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

[Swamp Ass MkII]

**** even plain jane lasers over ER, would be nice on clan mechs! And non-burst AC's!

[LordNothing]

nanashi0110, on 28 May 2025 - 03:33 AM, said:

Honestly, my desire is just to use RAC, XPL and TB in CLAN.
In my opinion, the weapons in CLAN are less interesting than in IS. (Although they are solid and excellent instead...)
I think it would be very nice if we could share an armament that is fun to use.
As an idea to realize this, the implementation of dedicated adapters and omnipods seems like a very good one.

id probibly use mrms too. clans lack a midrange dumbfire missile system. lppc gives you a bit more ppfld over plasma at the cost of splash. hppc and binary laser might get used. even the standard large laser perhaps for lower heat and good synergy with clan erml. is lbx have a 3x max rang multiplier over the 2x that clans have. 8 is lb2 on on an ultraviolet or bane is probibly mean as hell. is srms hit a bit harder and with less spread. is autocannons tend to have smaller burst size or single slug. there are lots of places where clanners would want to use is gear.

[nanashi0110]

LordNothing, on 28 May 2025 - 03:46 PM, said:

id probibly use mrms too. clans lack a midrange dumbfire missile system. lppc gives you a bit more ppfld over plasma at the cost of splash. hppc and binary laser might get used. even the standard large laser perhaps for lower heat and good synergy with clan erml. is lbx have a 3x max rang multiplier over the 2x that clans have. 8 is lb2 on on an ultraviolet or bane is probibly mean as hell. is srms hit a bit harder and with less spread. is autocannons tend to have smaller burst size or single slug. there are lots of places where clanners would want to use is gear.

In my opinion...
In a MIX TEC of Clan and IS?, I do not think that a MIX of STD/ER Laser and standard ballistic Weapon is necessary.
(I think there is a type that changes the nature itself like Noble and Leviathan)
The IS RAC,MRM,TB,XPL are very unique and playful. That's why I'd like to use them in clan.
On the other hand, I don't think there is such a thing as unique armament in the clan.
So the only thing I can offer to IS is HAG and BL.
I don't know if this balances out... Unclear.