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[KursedVixen]

Templar

Edited by KursedVixen, 07 July 2025 - 12:02 PM.

[martian]

KursedVixen, on 06 July 2025 - 12:10 PM, said:

Introducing MWO's Newest mech the Templar
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Templar

Templar Prime
XL 340 engine
Endo steel
Standard armor

Templar C1 ( a clan refit of the Templar Omnimech since IS omnimechs were derived from Clan omnitech omnipods are interchangable between the two this results in a lighter design using clan tech.
Clan XL340 engine
Clan Endo steel
Standard armor

Clan players already have 85-ton Warhawk OmniMech in MWO. They do not need a non-canon Clan Templar.

Let us draw from the tabletop canon either the Templar or the Templar III. The Inner Sphere has exactly zero assault OmniMechs in MWO.

[martian]

KursedVixen, on 07 July 2025 - 04:03 AM, said:

Sunspider hellfire... it's not as non-cannon as you think i said, this but apparently you either cannot read or skipped over the fact that Clan omnipods can be put into IS omnis due to them being derived from the same tech the only thing non cannon about a Clan Templar would be the engine and internal swap...

Since you are a "BattleTech purist" who wants to "Draw from Tabletop Canon" - - then simply state in which canon BattleTech product was published that Templar C1 of yours:

KursedVixen, on 06 July 2025 - 12:10 PM, said:

Templar Prime
XL 340 engine
Endo steel
Standard armor

Templar C1 ( a clan refit of the Templar Omnimech since IS omnimechs were derived from Clan omnitech omnipods are interchangable between the two this results in a lighter design using clan tech.
Clan XL340 engine
Clan Endo steel
Standard armor

A "BattleTech purist" with such knowledge of the BattleTech canon surely will have no problem with telling us the correct record sheets volume or the right technical readout in which we can find the Templar with Clan engine and Clan chassis.

Because without a canon record sheet, that Templar C1 of yours stays firmly non-canon.

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KursedVixen, on 07 July 2025 - 04:03 AM, said:

besides we already have what amounts to mixed tech with the gauszilla, Commando iIC urbamech IIC and the Wolfhound C unless PGi wants to put clan equipment inside the cockpits.... finally.

All of them were published in various canon BattleTech products. However, your Clan Templar is not canon and it has never been.

And by the way, neither Gauszilla, nor Commando IIC, UrbanMech IIC nor Wolfhound C are mixed tech designs.

You really have no clue what you are talking about.

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KursedVixen, on 07 July 2025 - 04:03 AM, said:

and the inner sphere doesn't need more omnimechs either....

... says KursedVixen, a Clan player who has 30 different Clan OmniMechs at his disposal, while the Inner Sphere can use just 2 OmniMechs in MWO.

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KursedVixen, on 07 July 2025 - 04:03 AM, said:

the gauntlet was horrible.

How could you know?

You said two weeks ago that you do not have Gauntlet and that you are not going to buy it:

KursedVixen, on 22 June 2025 - 09:33 AM, said:

No, because I don't care and I'm not purchasing it so I don't really care, eveything after your first sentence here is a YOU problem....

How I see it, there are two distinct possibilities:
a) You are talking about a 'Mech that you do not own and that you have never used in the game.
b) You are telling lies and you use IS 'Mechs after all.

Edited by martian, 07 July 2025 - 08:44 AM.

[Will9761]

Looking at this thread, I agree about having the Templar in MWO. However, it obliviously comes off like an Ultimatum. Especially with the C1 variant. Like he's saying, "I'll only allow IS Omnis, only if the clans get a variant too." Every single time KursedVixen opens his mouth, you start to see the Clan entitlement and hypocrisy appear.

KursedVixen, on 07 July 2025 - 04:03 AM, said:

Sunspider hellfire... it's not as non-cannon as you think i said, this but apparently you either cannot read or skipped over the fact that Clan omnipods can be put into IS omnis due to them being derived from the same tech the only thing non cannon about a Clan Templar would be the engine and internal swap...

The Clans are already powerful enough with their XL Engines and weapons. There's no need for a Clan Refit Templar when you already have superior clan mechs to fight it.

KursedVixen, on 07 July 2025 - 04:03 AM, said:

besides we already have what amounts to mixed tech with the gauszilla, Commando iIC urbamech IIC and the Wolfhound C unless PGi wants to put clan equipment inside the cockpits.... finally.

The only mix-tech mech is the Shadow Cat Noble Legend Mech, which has a built-in IS AC/20. The rest that you described were Clan refits or clan upgrades.

KursedVixen, on 07 July 2025 - 04:03 AM, said:

and the inner sphere doesn't need more omnimechs either.... the gauntlet was horrible.

So it's okay, for The Clans to have both Clan BattleMechs and Clan OmniMechs, but it's wrong for the IS to have OmniMechs as well? That's just downright hypocritical and entitled. Let the Inner Sphere have something interesting for a change.

There are also some really good IS Omnis:
Avatar- An IS Jumping, ECM Mad Dog.
Hauptmann - An IS Assault Mech that has a Standard Engine.
Sunder - An assault version of the Black Hawk KU (assuming PGI gives us the Samual variant, but with limited hardpoints). But the D variant is a jumper.
Blackjack Omni - The Prime version has the best ballistic hardpoints, while the OD variant has the best laser hardpoints. The fact that the OD variant also has a laser hardpoint in the CT and all variants are jumpers makes it a versatile Omni, even moreso than the Gauntlet, I would say.
Firestarter Omni - All variants are Jumpers across the board. The OD variant has an ECM hardpoint, the OH has the best hardpoints and OF has a head-mounted laser hardpoint.

But knowing you, you would jump on the chance to crap on them because they're Inner Sphere and not Clan. I hope PGI releases more IS Omnis in spite of you.

Edited by Will9761, 08 July 2025 - 11:35 AM.