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[CheeseBurger4Ever]

For ALL 'Mechs, on most pretty much All AMS 'Mechs, 'coz of Heat reduction, I can't have the luxury of LAMS, so I have to use AMS, but the Ammo is always a horrible limitation: Most of my builds are ony 0.5T AMS Ammo, I'd like at least 1T.

So I want to Request: At the very list +0.5T of weight on 'Mechs exclusively for AMS Ammo, +1T would be ideal: Buying it, earning it, both, or any other Method, I don't care, but I'd like more AMS Ammo, 'coz simply LRMs are buffed and AMS can't kill a LRM10 even, so LRMs are justified, but also should be AMS, since you clearly nerfed it, at least give more Ammo Tonnage.

Also Allow +1 Skill(92 total) for a new AMS Skill that gives AMS Ammo the Extra AMS C.A.S.E. Slot

Make AMS Great Again #MAMSGA

Also, make 0.1T Ammo a thing: sometimes the some weight is available, <0.5T, and I'd like to use it for Ammo

Make Ammo Great Again #MAGA

Edited by CheeseBurger4Ever, 18 October 2025 - 10:30 AM.

[Tesunie]

CheeseBurger4Ever, on 18 October 2025 - 10:26 AM, said:

So I want to Request: At the very list +0.5T of weight on 'Mechs exclusively for AMS Ammo, +1T would be ideal: Buying it, earning it, both, or any other Method, I don't care, but I'd like more AMS Ammo, 'coz simply LRMs are buffed and AMS can't kill a LRM10 even, so LRMs are justified, but also should be AMS, since you clearly nerfed it, at least give more Ammo Tonnage.

First. Describe what an AMS mech is? Nearly every mech in the game can take an AMS.

Second. A single AMS system is actually capable of shooting down a full LRM10 volley, depending upon the AMS location to the missile volley, and if they are the target or not. AMS shoots at missiles that enter into it's sphere of influence. If the missiles are traveling fully through the AMS sphere along it's longest line, it can take down almost a full LRM15 volley. If you are the target, and the shooter has LoS to you, it's going to take down fewer, like an LRM5 amount.

Third. AMS stacks. The more AMS in an area, the more missiles they can take down. A full AMS team that stay together can basically nullify almost all LRMs. This doesn't even include those mechs that can take two or more AMS on them (such as the Wolfhound, Huntsman, Corsair, etc).

Forth. Providing "free ammo" for AMS I feel would be unbalancing, and would make taking LAMS even less rewarding.

Fifth. I suspect 0.1 ton of ammo would, in many cases, be only a couple more shells, if even that in some cases (like AC20s). I feel it's not a good idea. Just adjust your armor values someplace to either take in that last 0.1 ton into armor, or remove some to make it into a 0.5 ton of free tonnage.

Six. I don't believe LRMs have received any significant buffs as of recently...

Seventh. There is no seventh. I'm just having fun with making numbered points. Can you blame me?

[Ekson Valdez]

Seventh. AMS ammo does not explode, so no C.A.S.E. is needed.

[Tesunie]

Ekson Valdez, on 19 October 2025 - 05:46 AM, said:

Seventh. AMS ammo does not explode, so no C.A.S.E. is needed.

Huh. I was not aware of that... I thought it was basically like MG ammo in that regards, just for AMS.

[martian]

CheeseBurger4Ever, on 18 October 2025 - 10:26 AM, said:

For ALL 'Mechs, on most pretty much All AMS 'Mechs, 'coz of Heat reduction, I can't have the luxury of LAMS, so I have to use AMS, but the Ammo is always a horrible limitation: Most of my builds are ony 0.5T AMS Ammo, I'd like at least 1T.

So I want to Request: At the very list +0.5T of weight on 'Mechs exclusively for AMS Ammo, +1T would be ideal: Buying it, earning it, both, or any other Method, I don't care, but I'd like more AMS Ammo, 'coz simply LRMs are buffed and AMS can't kill a LRM10 even, so LRMs are justified, but also should be AMS, since you clearly nerfed it, at least give more Ammo Tonnage.

Also Allow +1 Skill(92 total) for a new AMS Skill that gives AMS Ammo the Extra AMS C.A.S.E. Slot

Make AMS Great Again #MAMSGA

Also, make 0.1T Ammo a thing: sometimes the some weight is available, <0.5T, and I'd like to use it for Ammo

Make Ammo Great Again #MAGA

'Mech design is about trade offs.

You want more AMS ammo - remove armor, heat sink, or some other equipment or ammunition, or find the tonnage and space somewhere else.

Tesunie, on 19 October 2025 - 09:13 AM, said:

Huh. I was not aware of that... I thought it was basically like MG ammo in that regards, just for AMS.

They changed it like ... dunno ... two years ago.