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[simon1812]

what if the Pilot Skill Rating was reset at the end of every month? every body starts at Tier 5 at the beginning of the month. would that help? would that make it easier to read? as in how it relates to one's performance? would it make you care?

[Tesunie]

simon1812, on 13 October 2025 - 10:59 AM, said:

what if the Pilot Skill Rating was reset at the end of every month? every body starts at Tier 5 at the beginning of the month. would that help? would that make it easier to read? as in how it relates to one's performance? would it make you care?

As PSR is only there to help create more interesting and fun matches, having it reset needlessly every month would be counter intuitive to it's function. It can't create better matches based on skill levels if it's not able to retain that information.

The only time PSR should get reset is if the system that determines how PSR is calculated gets any major changes. Beyond that, it really doesn't need to be reset at all.


I think my question about this is... what prompted this concept? No one should rightly even care about PSR. It's only there for one function, and that is it. It says nothing else about the person.

[simon1812]

Tesunie, on 13 October 2025 - 12:41 PM, said:

As PSR is only there to help create more interesting and fun matches, having it reset needlessly every month would be counter intuitive to it's function. It can't create better matches based on skill levels if it's not able to retain that information.

The only time PSR should get reset is if the system that determines how PSR is calculated gets any major changes. Beyond that, it really doesn't need to be reset at all.


I think my question about this is... what prompted this concept? No one should rightly even care about PSR. It's only there for one function, and that is it. It says nothing else about the person.

-some games do something similar, very different kind of games though, but everyone is at the same spot every month, and have to work their way to a higher tier or rank for the sake of earning better rewards. but Im just throwing the idea in here, I have been playing this game for years now without paying much or any attention to the tier system ...but I have seem people at the forums who seem to think it is important for the matchmaker, for the matchmaker at least.

[Tesunie]

simon1812, on 13 October 2025 - 03:37 PM, said:

-some games do something similar, very different kind of games though, but everyone is at the same spot every month, and have to work their way to a higher tier or rank for the sake of earning better rewards. but Im just throwing the idea in here, I have been playing this game for years now without paying much or any attention to the tier system ...but I have seem people at the forums who seem to think it is important for the matchmaker, for the matchmaker at least.

PSR is important for the match maker, but that is all it's used for. It's just a system to attempt to pair people into better matches that are based upon your skill and performance, so a new player doesn't end up fighting a world champion. Anyone who says it does anything else, or represents anything else likely is suspecting it does something else, or doesn't know better.

AKA: You can have the PSR tier hidden, and have no impact on the game at all. Knowing or not knowing your PSR has no impact on things.

[martian]

simon1812, on 13 October 2025 - 10:59 AM, said:

what if the Pilot Skill Rating was reset at the end of every month? every body starts at Tier 5 at the beginning of the month. would that help? would that make it easier to read? as in how it relates to one's performance? would it make you care?

Simply put, the primary function of the Pilot Skill Rating is to separate high-skilled players (i.e. what is now called Tier 1 players) from low-skilled players (i.e. what is now known as Tier 5 players). Of course, there are other PSR functiones too.

Resetting the PSR every month would lump all MWO players together, extremely skilled players versus horribly bad players. That would not be fun for either group of players.

Anyway, the Summer 2020 period gameplay demonstrated very clearly that this would not be a good idea.

[Tesunie]

martian, on 16 October 2025 - 07:20 AM, said:

Anyway, the Summer 2020 period gameplay demonstrated very clearly that this would not be a good idea.

I would even dare to add on that Faction Warfare proved the point quiet nicely. No PSR meant people complaining about stomps, not standing a chance, "those awful premades", etc.

[KursedVixen]

Tesunie, on 13 October 2025 - 04:25 PM, said:

PSR is important for the match maker, but that is all it's used for. It's just a system to attempt to pair people into better matches that are based upon your skill and performance, so a new player doesn't end up fighting a world champion. Anyone who says it does anything else, or represents anything else likely is suspecting it does something else, or doesn't know better.

AKA: You can have the PSR tier hidden, and have no impact on the game at all. Knowing or not knowing your PSR has no impact on things.

I don't display my tier because too many tier ones like to think thier so superior, an ego problem so i keep mine hidden for that reason. besides it's boastful and that's just not me.

[Duke Falcon]

What you ask is literally called "Event Queue". When PSR forgotten and everyone happily smashed by unrestrained T1 elites and the comms and chat is full of trashtalks... Sometimes...
Sometimes it's quite cool. I mean I like the EQ and FP because provide refreshing challenge.

But generally monthly PSR reset would hurt you much. Believe me. You not display your tier but just believe me <= I display mine because I know I am a bad player and sometimes help ingame to get my challenges accepted if most people knows I am an easy kill... Still, the feeling of a good duel worth it!

[KursedVixen]

problems with a PSR Reset
1. lower tiers will get smashed
2.higher tiers will get their Ego's hurt
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[Duke Falcon]

I am not sure if it's against the CoC or not...

I spent this week to help a friend of mine. He asked me to "harvest some CBills" for him because he wanted to buy some new assaults. Guy is low T5 since a year now, not really a CBill-reaper <= OK, he runs lurmboats without anything else but LRMs, so yeah, low T5 is understandable...
I played ~45 matches with his account used his mechs and trial ones mixed. Now he has a sh!tload of CBills and hit the bottom of T3 <= he probably would not thank me that after the first few played matches in T3, but meh!
An I am a rather "meh" player, very far from "good". If I could slay through the tiers with crappy mechs within a week imagine what would a really good player may do? T5-4 mass migration away from MWO guaranteed. And I guess most high tier players not enjoy playing deathstar within the timeframe of drink a cup of coffee...

I used to dislike PSR because it were frustrating. Then hidden my tier for a while and just played. The arrows at the matches' end remained but those mean near nothing (usually their effect is negligible unless someone end under ~200 matchscore). I accept the tier system because I like playing FP => mixed tiers, some players easily kill almost all mechs with a single alpha if you stop just a blink... And many complain about that and EQ because "better players stomp others". What do anyone expect? Worse players should stomp the betters? Tiers exists for a reason and QP players should be grateful for that. Or just hit T3 where noone would protect you against the "sharks" any longer.

Tier and PSR system is perfect? No, far from it but works at least. Reset it constantly would kill the game literally.
These are my two cents, correct me if I were wrong, thank you!