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[Burned_Follower]

Ok i feel stupid because i didn't discover MWO until yesterday when i visited battletech.com for the first time in a long time. After reading a lot about some basic info on MWO and the fact that RL days will be in sync with in game days and considering the date, i now understand that clan tech is out of the question unless i find an opportunity to steal or salvage it.

So my next question is: what about comstar tech? I remember reading a Battletech novel a while back when the Grey Death Legion discovered a huge cash of mint condition Star League Era Mechs which despite how old they were were still better than the Mechs that he had because of the "losstech" problems that developed after the Star League collapsed.

So this begs the question: Will players in MWO occasionally discover ancient star league cashes with Mechs and/or Mech technology that would give us the upper hand like the Grey Death Legion did?

[Skwisgaar Skwigelf]

I would bet that down the line, if not at launch, there will be at least some of the advanced Star League tech available. Plus we may be able to salvage some of the Clan stuff as well.

[Arc Rin Fitzmorris]

I personally hope for both. Haha

[Hitman xXx qp]

Same here, but when the game does come out most of us will be players/bug hunters as i fig we will find bugs in the game. Later down the road I hope there something out there that lets us find/salvage gear....

[William McNab]

Now this should be linked back to other threads, but has anyone identified Com-Star as one of the active military groups, especially when the clans return?

[Skwisgaar Skwigelf]

ComStar will most likely be reserved for the dev team.

Secretive, powerful and in control behind the scences. Sound about right?

[Thorn Hallis]

Salvage isn't confirmed yet, so we have to wait and see if it will be a part of the game (I for myself doubt that).

[Burned_Follower]

Thorn Hallis, on 05 January 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

Salvage isn't confirmed yet, so we have to wait and see if it will be a part of the game (I for myself doubt that).

I'm not quite sure how they would 'not' have it in there. I've played more MMOs than i can count now and i have yet to kill an NPC without occasionally having some kind of loot(salavge). And since this is going to be some kind of MMO/SIM combo it would be even more realistic. I can crash an old 80's pickup, deliver the crunched up hulk to a junk yard and still get something for the metal alone. Maby some kind of equivilant will happen, even if it's selling scrap metal for C-Bills or random parts to make your own weapons or to augment the ones you already have. Most MMOs have something along these lines.

Edited by XxDRxDEATHxX, 05 January 2012 - 10:12 AM.

[Kristov Kerensky]

XxDRxDEATHxX, on 05 January 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

I'm not quite sure how they would 'not' have it in there. I've played more MMOs than i can count now and i have yet to kill an NPC without occasionally having some kind of loot(salavge). And since this is going to be some kind of MMO/SIM combo it would be even more realistic. I can crash an old 80's pickup, deliver the crunched up hulk to a junk yard and still get something for the metal alone. Maby some kind of equivilant will happen, even if it's selling scrap metal for C-Bills or random parts to make your own weapons or to augment the ones you already have. Most MMOs have something along these lines.

There's no NPCs for you to fight though in MWO, it's purely PvP, so how do you work salvage into that? What would your reaction be when you drop into combat the first time, get your head handed to, and return to the Mech bay to discover..NO MECH! It was claimed as salvage by the guy who took you out. I really don't see that being something that the majority of the players would tolerate, do you? The option is to give us salvage based on what we faced without removing it from the player, but..see..that really messes up the economy, and PGI has stated there will be an economy, so..who knows?

As for ComStar..well..at the current time, they are those quaint nutjobs who keep the information flowing between the planets, military might..please..put down that drink son, you've had too much! Oh, sure, they've got some Mechs here and there for protection of their HPL sites, but..come on..those are just religous nuts in old Mechs, they ain't threat to anyone but themselves!

Keep in mind, ComStar is NOT considered a military power in 3049..that'll be a few years down the road and will surprise EVERYONE in the Inner Sphere..including the Clans who'll they defeat at Tukayyid in 3052.

[Black Sunder]

Com Gaurds are made up only of the best video game players Terra has to offer to ComStar.

Edited by Black Sunder, 05 January 2012 - 12:25 PM.

[Thorn Hallis]

Kristov Kerensky, on 05 January 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

Keep in mind, ComStar is NOT considered a military power in 3049..that'll be a few years down the road and will surprise EVERYONE in the Inner Sphere..including the Clans who'll they defeat at Tukayyid in 3052.

Uhm...yes and no. The Com Guards were officially known in 3049, being stationed at nearly every planet in the Inner Sphere, even though most were Level 2 units. Surprisingly no Successor State ever counted the numbers of ComStar mechs positioned within its state.

[SquareSphere]

Title of the thread is a little miss leading. BUT I wouldn't be surprised if the devs had "salvage events" where you might be gifted a piece of lostech.

[Kristov Kerensky]

Thorn Hallis, on 05 January 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

Uhm...yes and no. The Com Guards were officially known in 3049, being stationed at nearly every planet in the Inner Sphere, even though most were Level 2 units. Surprisingly no Successor State ever counted the numbers of ComStar mechs positioned within its state.

Exactly Thorn, they HAD Mechs, they had the manpower to fill those Mechs, but that's about as much as anyone thought they had..just enough force to protect their HPL, that's all right...right? ComStar was really very good at keeping secrets...

[DFDelta]

Kristov Kerensky, on 05 January 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

Exactly Thorn, they HAD Mechs, they had the manpower to fill those Mechs, but that's about as much as anyone thought they had..just enough force to protect their HPL, that's all right...right? ComStar was really very good at keeping secrets...

And lets not forget that officially most of those mech troops were paid mercenaries and that Comstar told everyone that they have only recently begun to train "some" Comstar militia soldiers, when in reality they have been training soldiers for decades and the mercenaries were only a handfull.
And I guess with all the money that comstar had to have lying around no one ever doubted that.

[Dlardrageth]

Skwisgaar Skwigelf, on 05 January 2012 - 09:46 AM, said:

ComStar will most likely be reserved for the dev team.

Secretive, powerful and in control behind the scences. Sound about right?

Hm, what would that make Word of Blake? The favoured faction of the forum trolls? The hackers intent on making PGI's life harder? I'm not sure the devs/PGI aren't more like the Minnesota Tribe, to be honest. Of course we'd need a word from Khan Ekman on that to confirm.

But yeah, LosTech is exactly that for the most part "lost" technology. And if you have a bit of insight in the history and dealings of ComStar, you might actually prefer not to stumble too early over some LosTech and incur the... hm "...righteous wrath of the paragons of true belief, blessed be Blake! Repent, you sinner, and abandon your infidel ways! The true light of mankind lies in Blake's teachings and his alone!"

Ooops, sorry, something must have gotten into me...

Let's have a look at one link that somewhat shows the LosTech issue risks:

Tripitz Affair

Edited by Dlardrageth, 06 January 2012 - 01:08 AM.

[Burned_Follower]

Dlardrageth, on 05 January 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

Let's have a look at one link that somewhat shows the LosTech issue risks:

Tripitz Affair

Hey thx, that was a really cool read.

[Adridos]

What about Star League era mechs? How can you get hold of them? At least in canon.

[Thorn Hallis]

Adridos, on 06 January 2012 - 03:54 AM, said:

What about Star League era mechs? How can you get hold of them? At least in canon.

Well, some Inner Sphere units still fielded Star League-era mechs, like the dracoinian Arkab Legions.

[Strum Wealh]

Black Sunder, on 05 January 2012 - 12:25 PM, said:

Com Gaurds are made up only of the best video game players Terra has to offer to ComStar.

Well, we do know that gamers were being recruited by the Star League to defend the frontier against Xur and the Ko-Dan armada...

[MaddMaxx]

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"The Word of Blake was a splinter faction of ComStar that was created out of a conservative backlash against the removal of ComStar's mystical and religious aspects. The Blakists initially took refuge in the Free Worlds League, but were able to move most of their operations to Terra after they conquered it in 3058. They perpetrated the Jihad in 3067, which ended with the defeat of the Blakists in 3081 and the reintegration of the remaining Blakists back into ComStar."

Hopefully Blake will become a Faction in 3058. I want to go back to the 3^rd of 8.