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#21 Vulpesveritas

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 03:34 PM

Build your own is the best way to go. There are a good number here with highly positive experiences.
For a few budget builds, here are my recommendations; http://mwomercs.com/...ds-of-the-week/
I wouldn't go less than $600 on a new PC if you can.

But what I recommend for your personal case depends on your budget, which I will send you a PM to aid you more in depth with.


View PostFryulator, on 30 July 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

If you want, you can keep the old case, unless you want one of the super-sized new video cards. As for internals, you'll need a motherboard, cpu, video card, ram, and power supply for sure. Maybe A hard drive. OS if you're against pirating one


Please do not suggest or discuss taking part in illegal activities. Also, a new case would have better airflow which would also be more suited to modern CPUs, not to mention that his case is likely limited to micro ATX motherbaords. So a $40-60 investment in a new case may be a good thing.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 30 July 2012 - 03:35 PM.


#22 Guerra Mietitore

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 03:38 PM

Thanks guys. I really can't thank you enough. It sucks I have to do this but there is no other way and I know if there is anyone I can ask for help it is you guys. Thank you very much, keep the thread going I think it will help others as well. Everyone keep in touch and I will give you a SITREP when I can.

#23 Guerra Mietitore

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 03:44 PM

So other than this cluster****. How is the BETA. Seeing as I can't play it B)

#24 Fryulator

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 03:57 PM

View PostVulpesveritas, on 30 July 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

Build your own is the best way to go. There are a good number here with highly positive experiences.
For a few budget builds, here are my recommendations; http://mwomercs.com/...ds-of-the-week/
I wouldn't go less than $600 on a new PC if you can.

But what I recommend for your personal case depends on your budget, which I will send you a PM to aid you more in depth with.




Please do not suggest or discuss taking part in illegal activities. Also, a new case would have better airflow which would also be more suited to modern CPUs, not to mention that his case is likely limited to micro ATX motherbaords. So a $40-60 investment in a new case may be a good thing.


Sorry about that, just used to dealing with people where every last penny counts. Editing out that part.

But yeah, I'd trust what Vulpes has to say. Some of his previous posts have been quite helpful with keeping up with current tech

#25 Redlight Guardian

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 03:58 PM

Well, as an engineer and CS student, I highly recommend you an AMD hybrid crossfire APU/Dedicated Graphics combo, as they are very cost effective, and have a high performance. AMD is going to launch the next generation of Trinity APUs in October, so you may want to wait for the release to have a little higher graphics performance, as they will improve the current standard. If you ask me for a build with what is in the market right now, I would recommend you going for a 3870k APU with an AMD 6670 dedicated graphics card (those are the higher dedicated graphics card you can put in to boost the combined graphics of the APU) and an ECS motherboard, as its cost effective. I am not an AMD fan, but its the cheapest build in the market, and can give you some nice performance cost wise, and are compatible with Directx 11. Also, dont forget to put in a solid PSU in your tower. You can go to any Best Buy store and ask an assessor to provide you with further assistance in building a PC, a local retailer, or you can check online, there are several online vendors that would set up for you a customized PC for free.

Cheers!

#26 SakuranoSenshi

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 04:07 PM

Nobody can discuss the beta. Not here, anyway. Please don't ask in general public forums. ;-)

As a founder... come look over the beta forum you have access to. :-)

#27 Komatanz

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 10:13 PM

Yay! Finally someone with an older machine than myself... =/ BUt I guess your financial situation will do much better to you than it does to me.
As far as I've read, my Athlon x2 4800 (2,6Ghz) with a Radeon HD 3850 and 4 GB RAM (ddr2 ;) ) is "slightly" below minimal requirements...
At least I know I have to replace the motherboard first, as it is the oldest part and doesn't even support ddr3-RAM.
Which might not be the problem, when it weren't for my budget of up to approx. 50 bucks/months until end of decembre...
*sigh*

Greetings,
Koma

PS: Any donation would be gratefully appreciated... :(

Edited by Komatanz, 06 August 2012 - 10:13 PM.


#28 Freeride Forever

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:38 PM

Where did the minimum sys req's come from? The FAQ page says they currently don't have them.

Redlight Guardian already loosely made the same points I was going to make. No one else that I saw drew any attention to the importance of your PSU. If your PSU is ****, then your whole system is ****. The PSU is the most important part of the computer & it's one of those things that gets neglected and skimped on like the mobo, (which happens to be the 2nd most important part) when you buy department store pre-built junk like Dell's, and Sony's etc. When there is no rapidly evolving performance associated quantitative value attached to it, it can't be used effectively to advertise & make sales so it gets neglected. PSU's & mobo's are the first victims, RAM is probably next, but it's less expensive & less significant. BUILD YOUR OWN SYSTEM!!!! It is by far the best system you can buy for your money. Take opinions under advisement but do your own research based on your budget.

Also speaking of bang for your buck, when you buy an Intel CPU, or an Nvidia GPU, you are buying an advertising campaign as well as a processor. Almost every game that I know of including this one (and excluding Half-Life 2) has Nvidia's bullshit plastered all over it. You get better performance per dollar from AMD. They work just as good and cost less. I've used them all and in your situation it's the best route. Nvidia usually has the fastest flagship, but that won't apply to you & it's always an unnecessary expenditure. As far as CPU's go, I don't follow as closely but It's a never-ending race & the price/performance ratio is something AMD has always been known for. CPU's are of little significance in a game compared to the GPU anyway & I'm not up to snuff on AMD's APU's but Guardian seems to be so that might be the way to go. With a standalone GPU anything in AMD's line-up that is currently available ending with "850" or higher (e.g. 5850, 6850, 6870 etc.) will more than suffice. The "850" level in any given generation is usually pegged as the best banger for the money and my experience correlates closely to the reviews, benchmarks & tech specs that guided me in that direction.

Antec, Thermaltake, Cooler Master & OCZ are PSU brands that you can count on. I only have experience with Thermaltake (and unfortunate experiences with no names when I didn't know any better) and have had no reason to go anywhere else.

Gigabyte & ASUS are two heavies in the mobo market that I can speak for and I'm sure that many other people can too. MSI is top drawer also and there are others too.

Just stay outta the department stores & contrary to Guardian's advice Best Buy is a department store employing large numbers of know nothings. You got newegg.com, you got tigerdirect.com, you probably have others. I buy almost always from Canada Computers but they don't ship outside the country so that doesn't do you any good. I've had good experience with the Canadian version of Tiger Direct, but usually their prices on desktop hardware can't compete with Canada Comp's. Maybe the US has something similar. Computer salesman are rarely in my experience any different from car salesman. I would not ever take the advice of someone too seriously whether educated or not, who thinks they stand to gain something from the advice they give. There are plenty of sources to consult on the internet, unbiased sources, and benchmarks presenting cold hard facts.

You can build a system with a new case (which is of little importance despite what you might hear, if you need more ventilation, get out your drill) that will run this game (& pretty much any other) very fast for $500 if you build it right & if you keep it running lean, clean & mean.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:49 PM

Oh, and in case there's any remaining confusion, Intel is not a viable GPU manufacturer for this kind of gaming and there may be something to be said for AMD's acquisition of ATI leading to greater compatibility & better performance, but I think that's purely speculative no matter who you'd hear it from. Any combination I've ever ran has always worked very well. Both Nvidia's & AMD's GPU's have strong manufacturer & developer support so you can't go wrong either way, you'll just be more likely to find a better deal from AMD.

#30 Komatanz

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:36 AM

I'm using AMD-stuff for years and i'd like to keep it that way :)
But unlike some others I am aware of the PSU-"problem". I've no idea what I am using right now, for most things like names usually tend to slip my mind. I track down the parts I might be able to purchase (maybe over time, I guess) and sum up what they be suggested in terms of power need. and maybe add a little if possible, to have some tolerance... So, it's just some kind hypothetical build i toss around in my head (or on some sheet of paper, sort of).
And in time I'll try to read the freds about the other hardware guides, too, if they're online until then, otherwise I think I might just ask again B)

#31 SakuranoSenshi

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:27 PM

Don't 'overbuy' on your PSU, especially without getting detailed full specifications from the manufacturer. Some of the biggest names in that business are every bit as bad as the cheap knock-offs, in fact, depending on the model purchased. You don't need an 850 watt, 900 watt or 1000 watt PSU (unless you know better, in which case you won't be seeking advice on the internet). Very few people need more than a 450 watt PSU, a lot of people would have headroom with a 300 watt PSU. Enthusiasts, running dual-video setups and a lot of drives (two hard drives and an optical drive is not 'a lot') are the only people who need considerable amounts of total power but even then, they don't usually approach the limit for the PSU, the actual issue is power on the 12 volt rail for the video cards; manufacturers have tended to only have adequate rails on higher total power output models.

In short, quality is what you want to be paying for, not a big number and make sure you know what you need - the manufacturers *do* advise potential buyers on the 12 volt rail current, this is what matters for you.

Personally, I recommend Corsair's power supplies.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 01:12 PM

"Arr, I see yer prob'm, 'ere. 'S a 'Dell' "





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