15 replies to this topic

[PyroAcid]

please for the lov god do not allow noobs to chnage the in game settings as host in online game to have unlimited ammo and no heat. after a while pepole will get board and just spam these game servers. this has happen in almost all mechwarrior games. to the point were the game has just got dull with all the super laser boats. or kiteing missile boat mechs.

[Dlardrageth]

Well, unless those "noobs" will be able to set up dedicated servers I don't see it happening. In my understanding PGI will create some sort of "virtual server" for each given match, that would mean they would still be the host.

Pretty confident they won't let a random person decide on the settings for the match. I expect either you can tick some boxes in the lobby to determine the type of match you are looking for or the host (PGI) will offer a variety of matches with preset settings. What you described in your post wouldn't make much sense for them in my opinion. Unless they sort of license private servers, but that would be the matter of the license-taker, not the general player base any more.

Edited by Dlardrageth, 03 January 2012 - 10:20 AM.

[Omigir]

PyroAcid,

sup man! I think if you go to here :http://mwomercs.com/...about-the-game/

While it says nothing about how many of the game machanics work, it will surly help you get a feel for what PGI is looking at doing and help you rest easy that they are taking a stance on this of more of a plot driven online experince rather than mechwarrior's we have seen in the passed.

[Mchawkeye]

yes, I cannot imagine, with a game set up like this, that such things will be available to us mere mortals.

Though, Pyro, I would suggest checking for typos and spelling errors so you can make yourself easily understood.

[VixNix]

Mchawkeye, on 03 January 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

Though, Pyro, I would suggest checking for typos and spelling errors so you can make yourself easily understood.

Now you should know children do not think spelling and grammar count for anything on-line.

[Mchawkeye]

PyroAcid, on 03 January 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

no need to start a flame war about grammer. and fyi iam 29 . and i agree but you should be thinking that about kids from the ghetto and trailerparks. with computers speaking like me.in chat or fourm these cycles i hail from not. lol

I really hope this is you being funny.

If it's not, it's just sad.

[Naduk]

i agree with the op (even if it was written a bit spazy)
i am so sick to death of this options garbage that is killing games these days

this is what should be changeable by the player
Name (once)
faction
controls
graphical settings
audio settings
default language
mech selection (including paints and stuff)
load out selection ? (may depend on faction settings/level)

aside from those things the player should not have any control over how the game is played
im not talking about game play features like press button to change the size/toggle of the minimap or on the fly changing of weapon groups

i am talking about things like weapon damage, cross hairs, respawn rates, gravity, movement speeds, weapon ranges, IFF indicators
any of this kind of stuff should be LOCKED down

core game play is designed around these things and are ONLY balanced under the default settings
stupid things like HARDCORE mode that remove and change these default values destroy any sense of game balance

this leads to mass complaints and confusion on feedback forums and even nerfing of items that did not need it
no heat or unlimited ammo are things that should not even be under consideration
and in this game specifically map selection should not be a choice (with exception to Solaris)
if you are fighting to control a planet , you cannot just change its environmental conditions
if its a jungle planet players should not be able to just fight on other planets settings

this game is drawing from a live connection to the battletech universe
MWO is drawing directly from cannon it should be constricted to and played as such
options to enable or disable anything at all that effects the game play should be under the exclusive control of PGI

i am not overly afraid of things going badly down this path due to PGI's own statements but it needs to be talked/complained about just in case

there are way to many people bringing over their mektek anti-argument sentiments of "its ok if you dont like my idea just make it an option and everyone is happy"

well its not true is it, the more options there are the more confused and diluted things get
the more that happens the more unhappy players are overall
the core experience should be the same regardless of game type i am playing
Attack planet, defend planet, recon, sabotage, solaris, solaris tournament, tdm, ctf, conquest

players should not be subjected to needing to understand what it means to meta-gameplay when you are on a server with changed settings like hardcore, NH,AA, NHAA, instant respawn, and all the stupid combinations of those that then need to be applied over the top of existing game types
battlefield 3 is suffering from this very syndrome right now

i want to play MWO , i dont want to play wich of the 500 variationsa of MWO am i playing this time

[Larry Headrick]

Naduk, on 03 January 2012 - 10:37 PM, said:

i agree with the op (even if it was written a bit spazy)
i am so sick to death of this options garbage that is killing games these days

this is what should be changeable by the player
Name (once)
faction
controls
graphical settings
audio settings
default language
mech selection (including paints and stuff)
load out selection ? (may depend on faction settings/level)

aside from those things the player should not have any control over how the game is played
im not talking about game play features like press button to change the size/toggle of the minimap or on the fly changing of weapon groups

i am talking about things like weapon damage, cross hairs, respawn rates, gravity, movement speeds, weapon ranges, IFF indicators
any of this kind of stuff should be LOCKED down

core game play is designed around these things and are ONLY balanced under the default settings
stupid things like HARDCORE mode that remove and change these default values destroy any sense of game balance

this leads to mass complaints and confusion on feedback forums and even nerfing of items that did not need it
no heat or unlimited ammo are things that should not even be under consideration
and in this game specifically map selection should not be a choice (with exception to Solaris)
if you are fighting to control a planet , you cannot just change its environmental conditions
if its a jungle planet players should not be able to just fight on other planets settings

this game is drawing from a live connection to the battletech universe
MWO is drawing directly from cannon it should be constricted to and played as such
options to enable or disable anything at all that effects the game play should be under the exclusive control of PGI

i am not overly afraid of things going badly down this path due to PGI's own statements but it needs to be talked/complained about just in case

there are way to many people bringing over their mektek anti-argument sentiments of "its ok if you dont like my idea just make it an option and everyone is happy"

well its not true is it, the more options there are the more confused and diluted things get
the more that happens the more unhappy players are overall
the core experience should be the same regardless of game type i am playing
Attack planet, defend planet, recon, sabotage, solaris, solaris tournament, tdm, ctf, conquest

players should not be subjected to needing to understand what it means to meta-gameplay when you are on a server with changed settings like hardcore, NH,AA, NHAA, instant respawn, and all the stupid combinations of those that then need to be applied over the top of existing game types
battlefield 3 is suffering from this very syndrome right now

i want to play MWO , i dont want to play wich of the 500 variationsa of MWO am i playing this time

^^^ This.

[Dlardrageth]

You forgot one option, Aegis...

Hot, Untamed, Lascivious, Attractive - HULA

Edited by Dlardrageth, 04 January 2012 - 12:15 AM.

[Mchawkeye]

I have to question if separate servers would exist (unless they have already said so?).

My point being, with the universe being persistent and all, which servers count towards the outcome of contested planets?

If it is the 'standard' HOLA server, then honestly what is the point of the other ones? I guess I understand people just wanting to play, but surely a major point of the entire exercise is to cumulatively effect the overall universe, otherwise it might as well be mech4 but with better graphics and physics and what not.

[Nik Van Rhijn]

At the moment it doesn't look they will have those sort of options available at launch.

[Naduk]

good and i hope they never do

[Gorith]

Aegis Kleais™, on 03 January 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

I wouldn't think, even with player voting, that players would be able to change the server's environment. We'll probably get map voting. We may get some form of player kicking/banning, but I can't imagine the latter being finite, due to the nature of F2P.

I doute we will even get that. Remeber we are dropping to secure planets for our faction/corps. It would feel very wrong if we dropped on what is supposed to be a desert planet and suddenly its a tropical rainforest.

Also allowing people to choose a map would eventually be the game being played on a single map (generaly the easiest to navigate) and the other enviorments being almost never seen. (I present BGH from SC/BW as primary example)

Edited by Gorith, 08 January 2012 - 09:20 AM.

[SilentWolff]

PyroAcid, on 03 January 2012 - 08:06 AM, said:

please for the lov god do not allow noobs to chnage the in game settings as host in online game to have unlimited ammo and no heat. after a while pepole will get board and just spam these game servers. this has happen in almost all mechwarrior games. to the point were the game has just got dull with all the super laser boats. or kiteing missile boat mechs.

I agree. This is MechWarrior not MechInsult. Learn to manage your heat and ammo and have some semblance of skill imo. I've never understood the no heat and unlimited ammo crowd.

[Zanga]

Gorith, on 08 January 2012 - 09:20 AM, said:

Also allowing people to choose a map would eventually be the game being played on a single map (generaly the easiest to navigate) and the other enviorments being almost never seen. (I present BGH from SC/BW as primary example)

First off. Solid reference my friend! I think that is case and point. Most games that were played on Bnet used the Big Game Hunters map and, to my recollection, the only other maps that were played were just custom variations of BGH for the most part.

On Topic: I will have to second the sentiment that additional play variations and map selection should not (and probably will not) not be up to the players...other than not taking a contract to defend/attack a certain planet because you hate the weather, terrain, or giant mosquitos.

[Gattling Fenn]

Pyro you live in the United States, how is your English this bad? Seriously, every single one of your posts looks like it was typed by a 1st grader.