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[Skadi]

[SakuranoSenshi]

Gendou, on 01 August 2012 - 10:24 PM, said:

First of all, Atlantes seems to be using a Latin pluralization rather than Greek.
Second, how is this not the nominative case? I guess I could see arguing accusative if we were talking about piloting the Atlases...

It's not nominative SINGULAR. As for the other part, did you actually do any study? Serious question. If you did, do you remember the thrid declension?

[Skadi]

SakuranoSenshi, on 01 August 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

It's not nominative SINGULAR. As for the other part, did you actually do any study? Serious question. If you did, do you remember the thrid declension?

There is a time and a place for this argument, but it is not here, for this thread is for the atlai.

[SakuranoSenshi]

No argument; it's a third declension noun with a stem in -nt, its plural is -ntes. :-)

[errmoop0]

What the heck is this?

[Skadi]

errmoop0, on 01 August 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:

What the heck is this?

is it not abvious? a poll debating the most imporant question the forums at this time, is the plural form of alas, atlai, or atlases?

[Gendou]

SakuranoSenshi, on 01 August 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

It's not nominative SINGULAR. As for the other part, did you actually do any study? Serious question. If you did, do you remember the thrid declension?

Do study on what, exactly?
And while it's been almost twenty years, yes, I remember my Greek declensions.

[SakuranoSenshi]

Gendou, on 01 August 2012 - 10:48 PM, said:

Do study on what, exactly?
And while it's been almost twenty years, yes, I remember my Greek declensions.

I was asking if you'd studied (ancient) Greek, otherwise talking about declensions would probably mean nothing to you. Since you did, you already have the answer and it should have jogged your memory. :-)

[Rushyo]

Where's the "DIAF" option?

[Insidious Johnson]

I vote that the plural is the same word just like moose refers to one or many.

[Noob Weapons]

SakuranoSenshi, on 01 August 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

Wrong in every way possible, first for taking this as SRS BSNS, then because they are all the same word and for related reasons, next because neither of your choices are remotely in the running for the 'real' one and finally because it's Atlases. In English, which is what the novels used (and actually did use). Incidentally, definitive canon is the rulebooks and supplements over the novels. Just saying.

Atlai.

Therefore your argument is invalid

[Skadi]

Insidious Johnson, on 01 August 2012 - 10:53 PM, said:

I vote that the plural is the same word just like moose refers to one or many.

You say Moosai as well?

[SakuranoSenshi]

The novels did not use Atlai, nor did the rules. So, no.

[Noob Weapons]

Kaiser R Metzger, on 01 August 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

Because they will be the ones squashed to jelly under the flock of Atlai, WHICH shall be know as a Atlagagum?

Oh god! a flock of Atlai! xD Quickly! someone make a picture of 5+ Atlai with wings!

[Skadi]

[Otto Cannon]

SakuranoSenshi, on 01 August 2012 - 10:56 PM, said:

The novels did not use Atlai, nor did the rules. So, no.

But the novels and rules all thought that giant walking tanks piloted by people with personality disorders wearing nothing but pants, vest and a silly helmet would be the logical way of making war in the future. I don't think we can trust those sources on linguistics either.

[Gendou]

SakuranoSenshi, on 01 August 2012 - 10:51 PM, said:

I was asking if you'd studied (ancient) Greek, otherwise talking about declensions would probably mean nothing to you. Since you did, you already have the answer and it should have jogged your memory. :-)

Okay, I will allow as how a plural Atlas is properly Atlantes in Greek because it's third declension.
(see, this is where my education fails me - I was unaware that Atlas was third declension because my seminary education was not in Classical Greek but in Biblical Greek)

However, I can still make the argument that Atlases is correct in this context because it's a proper name that has been borrowed into English.
Therefore, pluralizing it as if it were an English word is appropriate, as we do with other proper names borrowed into English.

The debate continues!

[Deceptor]

You know, when it comes down to it, I still hate driving 'em.

[Gendou]

Skadi, on 01 August 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

There is a time and a place for this argument, but it is not here, for this thread is for the atlai.

This thread is exactly the time and place for this discussion!

[Skadi]

Gendou, on 01 August 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

This thread is exactly the time and place for this discussion!

i could create you a thread about yalls argument specificaly if you want, although the op would be generated by me, so thats something to consider