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[Iron Avenger]

Same as the flamethrower thread, but based around PPC's and Mech Armor

[AH Warhawk]

please elaberate.

[JFlash49]

FICTION!!!!!!!!!!!!.....

[CocoaJin]

he is looking for a discussion on possible viable theories for the operation of a PPC...this should be fun.

[I R O N Patriot]

PPCs = Nerf'd

[Iron Avenger]

Ok, let me start, (really should fix the first post but I won't because its fine as is).

I think the PPC is like overcharged ionized plasma, that is then moved by a magnetic field pushing the magnetic bottle surrounding the plasma.
I also think that the Battlemech armor has to be made out of an extremely heat resistant and kinetic resistant metal.

[Evinthal]

Thank you Tesla.

http://www.tfcbooks..../1935-00-00.htm

also a more recent application.

http://www.army.mil/...asers_to__fry_/

Edited by Evinthal, 10 August 2012 - 03:17 PM.

[Iron Avenger]

You just made my day evinthal. And just proved wrong one of my engineer buddies, who now owns me 20 bucks

[NotNewHere]

A PPC works by using a magnetic field to project a straight-ish line of positively charged iron ions at the targert. A huge electric current is then passed through these ions as if they were a wire, causing heat and electrical damage to the target.
NO arguments, this is how lightning works in real life
TLDR: giant wireless tazer

This explanation is for those who don't want to read Evinthal's linked walls of text. As for the armour... Magic

[Iron Avenger]

Again, about the armor, Why wouldn't you use the same material as on the inside of the reactor? And speaking of which, how can a mech reactor be breached?

[NotNewHere]

Maybe an advanced version of this? Last I heard the latest version could allow a tank to survive several anti-tank rockets and a (non-nuclear) ballistic missile http://en.wikipedia..../Chobham_armour

[Iron Avenger]

Hmmm.... what about reactive plating, something that gets harder as you hit it until it falls off?

[Anyone00]

Iron Avenger, on 10 August 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

Again, about the armor, Why wouldn't you use the same material as on the inside of the reactor?

Lunar Titanium Alloy... <I misread>... does not seem to exist in Battle Tech universe.

The reactor materials are likely either too dense or to bulky to make effective armor and still have the mech move; and armor materials just don't do what they need to do in a fusion reactor.

Edited by Anyone00, 10 August 2012 - 03:37 PM.

[Kobura]

no no no no you are searching for answers that will not ever be successfully delivered, this technology does NOT EXIST, there are no physics for this, and it has even BEEN changed MULTIPLE times in the battletech universe, what the effect is, how it operates, how it's delivered

this is like trying to describe both the location and the velocity of a quantum particle that someone just quite entirely made up off the top of their head

[NotNewHere]

mabe Electric reactive armour?
"A new technology called electric reactive armour (also known as electromagnetic reactive armour, or colloquially as electric armour) is in development. This armour is made up of two or more conductive plates separated by some space or by an insulating material, creating a high-power capacitor.^{[3][4][5][6][7]} In operation, a high-voltage power source charges the armour. When an incoming body penetrates the plates, it closes the circuit to discharge the capacitor, dumping a great deal of energy into the penetrator, which may vaporize it or even turn it into a plasma, significantly diffusing the attack. It is not public knowledge whether this is supposed to function against both kinetic energy penetrators and shaped charge jets, or only the latter. This technology has not yet been introduced on any known operational platform." source = wikipedia

Kobura, on 10 August 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

no no no no you are searching for answers that will not ever be successfully delivered, this technology does NOT EXIST, there are no physics for this, and it has even BEEN changed MULTIPLE times in the battletech universe, what the effect is, how it operates, how it's delivered

this is like trying to describe both the location and the velocity of a quantum particle that someone just quite entirely made up off the top of their head

We built a PPC in real life so doesn't that mean the answers do exist?

Edited by Nightwish, 10 August 2012 - 03:37 PM.

[Iron Avenger]

kobura, for the LAST TIME, please leave

[Andrew Kase]

I dont want to live on this planet anymore, ITS FICTION, AND FUTURE!!!!!!!! Oh and a TESLA CANNON IS NOT A PPC!!!!!!!

question explain everything about how a jump ship works. then build it. CAN'T? then shut up

[Kobura]

Iron Avenger, on 10 August 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:

kobura, for the LAST TIME, please leave

Maybe if this was your thread. Now, back to sciency.

The inside of a reactor doesn't need to be hard, it just has to be a vaccuum with a bit of heat-resistance. Plasma is hot, but it's sparse, think like cooking with really hot oil. Yea it's stupid hot, but the spatters are tiny and insignificant. So you wear a shirt, which provides in reality little thermal protection, but enough for the spots that are required.

As for the intense radiation, any kind of dissipation material will work (concrete, lead, ex)

Also, there has been built a railgun that I know of, but not a proper 'particle cannon' in weaponized form. That would've been Tesla's "particle beam" weapon that has been theorized but lost, no?
http://en.wikipedia....ki/Electrolaser This, is not
http://en.wikipedia....cle_beam_weapon ...this.

[Iron Avenger]

dude, seriously, your first post it trolling on someone elses?

and you know what kobura, this IS my thread. so I am gonna ask you again to leave

[GnawTsatyr]

I thought PPC = Plasma Particle Cannon. So this dude's explanation seems on point for that acronym.

Nightwish, on 10 August 2012 - 03:19 PM, said:

A PPC works by using a magnetic field to project a straight-ish line of positively charged iron ions at the targert. A huge electric current is then passed through these ions as if they were a wire, causing heat and electrical damage to the target.
NO arguments, this is how lightning works in real life
TLDR: giant wireless tazer

This explanation is for those who don't want to read Evinthal's linked walls of text. As for the armour... Magic