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[Striker1980]

Anything that introduces pick ups, armour scratches that result in a reactor explosion and lava powered shields DID NOT HAPPEN!!!

>(LALALALA)< <--- Fingers in ears...

[goon]

< has eternal grudge against MA for butchering a what was going to be MW5, a grudge that burns hotter than a thousand fusion reactors.

Edited by goon, 22 January 2012 - 01:04 PM.

[Tyzh]

goon, on 22 January 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

< has eternal grudge against MA for butchering a what was going to be MW5, a grudge that burns hotter than a thousand fusion reactors.

It was never going to be MW5. It was an entirely different project. An attempt to bring battlemechs to the console.

[Striker1980]

Tyzh, on 22 January 2012 - 01:08 PM, said:

It was never going to be MW5. It was an entirely different project. An attempt to bring battlemechs to the console.

And an EPIC FAIL!

LOL

[Damion Wolf]

It never ceases to surprise me how otherwise intelligent people can have serious debates over the legitimacy of a game like MechAssault. It is gutterfilth made to seperate young, influential minds from their money while simultaniously driving the honest, peace-loving BattleTech fans up a ******* wall.

That is all.

[gunghoblazes]

I actually like MA. It was an attempt to gain a part of the casual gaming audience. It may have been a terrible mechwarrior game or reference to the battletech universe but meh.


PS MA2 Sucked big ones

Edited by gunghoblazes, 22 January 2012 - 01:37 PM.

[Striker1980]

gunghoblazes, on 22 January 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

I actually like MA. It was an attempt to gain a part of the casual gaming audience. It may have been a terrible mechwarrior game or reference to the battletech universe but meh.


PS MA2 Sucked big ones

I've got to agree that MA2 was horrific compared to the simple poorness of MA1 (limpeting onto 'mechs to capture them and getting 100% control??? makes me shudder(((((((O____0)))))), though the first decent view of a battletech starship was kinda cool).

[Gremlich Johns]

An extract from the mechassaultin': the interview noted above

"Where does MechAssault fit in the MechWarrior universe as far as story, characters, and mechs are concerned?
This is an evolving storyline that will link the timeline between the Federated Commonwealth Civil War and the events leading up to the MechWarrior Dark Age seen in the WhizKids tabletop game."

It was a console game and therefore had a separate fan base. I was not, fortunately, part of it. If you believe in MW:DA then you probably liked MA (well, maybe some of you did)

[Catamount]

Karyudo-ds, on 22 January 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

Er...how does MA have it's own timeline? Plotwise it butchered the Jihad. It did not butcher something else, it took from Battletech in exactly the same way the MW games did with the exception of being based off a plot point not entirely written yet. So as far as Battletech's video games go they in a way come after the MW games chonologically. Not that any of them have any real relavance on the plot or my Clan Wolf would have taken over the galixie back in the early 90's




And yet Post-Jihad BattleTech history is a part of MA.

I think you just answered your own question. The MW series fit into the canon, and therefore can be considered to be part of that continuity, as per the canon policy established by the current line developer (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Canon).

As you say, MA makes a mess of the plot, taking part in some kind of odd Jihad that just doesn't fit, hence taking part within its own continuity, because contradicting canon means it doesn't take part in the BT continuity.


Also, the Jihad was not the only thing is messed up. The game took license by making up mechs out of thin air that we never see or hear about anywhere else, and that therefore don't fit within the canon, mechs like the Ragnarok. The game takes way too many liberties, deviating from canon in way too many ways, to be considered part of the same continuity.

[KingCobra]

NO NO and HELL NO Battletech =battletech novels posters,ect.

TT=CBT=tabletop games,miniatures,ect.

PCGames=MW1,MW2,MW2mercs,MW2GBL,MW3,MW3piratesmoon,MW4vengeance,MW4ispack,MW4Clanpack.
MW4Mercenaries,MW5

Xbox=Mechassault,Mechassault lone wolf

They all share the common a origin but each has there own variation of the timeliness according to the battle tech lore.
I know a fellow that has a Alpha pre production copy of MW5 from Microsoft gaming devision and it is in truth a throwback to MW3 style simulations i have played it the copy is a stand alone PC game.It does start in the Dark ages and ends in dark ages.

It is just to bad Microshaft killed the project just before production and packaging to work on the Xbox Mechassault games it was the Presedent of the microsoft gamming division (Don Mattrick)that had the PC version of MW5 killed. bastardxxxxxxxx.Here is your man all MEchwarrior fans can print this for there dart boards.

Edited by KingCobra, 22 January 2012 - 02:57 PM.

[Felicitatem Parco]

I agree with most everyone that MechAssault was an Assault on BattleTech. It was arcade garbage with magical healing spells and unlimited ammunition.

BUT

It came after MW4, chronologically correct, it did not extend beyond the Jihad era, and it was sanctioned by the owner of the franchise. You might not like it, but how could it not be considered the next game in the line of Microsoft-sponsored BattleTech videogames? If it wasn't the sequal to MW4, then you have to believe that the MechAssault game took place immediately after the events of MW4 completely by coincidence, and that the next Microsoft-sponsored Mechwarrior game will be set right at the begining of the Jihad era as if MechAssault never happened.

We would all be happier if Mechassault never happened... but it did. Take your fingers out of your ears! It did happen! I know, here's a tissue.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 22 January 2012 - 06:30 PM.

[Tyzh]

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MechAssault is quite a different experience than the MechWarrior series. Talk about the differences between the two and why Xbox went the action route.

MechWarrior rocks on the PC! But truthfully, these types of simulations just haven't gotten a huge following on console platforms. Personally, I think the higher screen resolution and the keyboard for the PC make a better "simulation" platform. Microsoft has that covered with MechWarrior 4: Mercenaries and the unbelievable stuff they haven't announced yet.

With MechAssault we wanted the power of the 'Mechs accessible immediately so the player can focus on tactics and not worry about managing the 'Mech's systems. This allows us to speed the game up and keep the action and destruction intensity at its highest level.

The game was never planed as a sequel. It is not a sequel. It was a separate project.

[Catamount]

Prosperity Park, on 22 January 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

I agree with most everyone that MechAssault was an Assault on BattleTech. It was arcade garbage with magical healing spells and unlimited ammunition.

BUT

It came after MW4, chronologically correct, it did not extend beyond the Jihad era, and it was sanctioned by the owner of the franchise. You might not like it, but how could it not be considered the next game in the line of Microsoft-sponsored BattleTech videogames? If it wasn't the sequal to MW4, then you have to believe that the MechAssault game took place immediately after the events of MW4 completely by coincidence, and that the next Microsoft-sponsored Mechwarrior game will be set right at the begining of the Jihad era as if MechAssault never happened.

We would all be happier if Mechassault never happened... but it did. Take your fingers out of your ears! It did happen! I know, here's a tissue.

No one denies that it comes after MW4 within its own MA continuity.

It does not, however, come after MW4 in the BT continuity, because MA grossly violates the BT continuity. So if you play MW4 and then say "well what happens after?", the answer, canonincally, is not MA, but rather the actual BT canon.


Just as the nightmare 1985 we see in Back to the Future II takes place after 1955, or the Star Trek XI continuity takes place after Enterprise, each within their own continuity, MA takes place after MW4, within its own continuity. However, it's no less an alternate timeline, than either of those.


So it's not a question of whether it's a sequel to MW4, it's a question of what continuity do you want to follow. If you want to know what comes after MW4 in the MA continuity, the answer is MA; if you want to know what happens after the events portrayed in MW4 in the BT continuity, the actual canon of the franchise, the answer is whatever happens in the BT continuity, and either would be correct from MW4's perspective, since we're dealing with a divergent timeline.

However, I don't think many of us care what happens in the MA continuity, because we're BT/MW fans, not MA fans. MW4 also differs from MA in that not only can you consider the BT continuity to take place before and after MW4, but you can consider MW4 part of that continuity where it doesn't violate the rest of canon, as per the current canon policy.

Edited by Catamount, 22 January 2012 - 06:50 PM.

[Blackfire1]

No.

Edited by Blackfire1, 23 January 2012 - 05:35 AM.