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[guardian wolf]

Ok this is the restart of my last forum topic, which for some god forsaken reason was deleted by someone on my end, so sorry for the confusion. Now I am looking for what kind of computer parts would I need to build a good gaming computer, and what kind of Joysticks are everyone using, needing suggestions. Also on further note, can Joysticks twist to cause your mech torso twist? Is that a control?

[guardian wolf]

Also does a 20+4 Pin mean the same as a 24 Pin, or are they different, looking at Power supplies right now.

[Catamount]

I replied in PM, but I'll just ask here; just let us know what your preferred budget is first for a tower, let us know if you need a monitor/speakers, and/or keyboard and mouse.

Then we'll get started

[whiskey tango foxtrot]

logitech extreme 3D pro has worked well for me.

[Catamount]

guardian wolf, on 26 January 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

Also does a 20+4 Pin mean the same as a 24 Pin, or are they different, looking at Power supplies right now.

Yes, for all intents and purposes, but you don't need to worry about that.

Years ago, we cared about 20 vs 24 pin main connectors, but these days, every power supply and every motherboard uses a 24 pin main connector. You just need something that's ATX12v compliant, and all PSUs are these days.

[Rabbit Blacksun]

yes joy stick twist CAN equate to torso twist as long as you set it up that way

[guardian wolf]

Thank you Rabbit, OK I currently have a budget of 1500 bucks, and am on was refered to newegg.com by a friend. I have been starting to look at parts and found a tower, a graphics card, a CD drive, and 16 Gigs of Ram, and am at $758.95. They are as follows
Tower:
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0, Black Interior and Four Fans-1x 230mm front RED LED fan, 1x 140mm rear fan, 1x 230mm top fan, and 1x 230mm side fan

Graphics card:
MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

CD drive:
LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM

RAM:
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9Q-16GBXL
how am I doing

EDIT: Had a bunch of color tabs for some reason

Edited by guardian wolf, 26 January 2012 - 12:57 PM.

[HeroicTofu]

guardian wolf, on 26 January 2012 - 12:55 PM, said:

Thank you Rabbit, OK I currently have a budget of 1500 bucks, and am on was refered to newegg.com by a friend. I have been starting to look at parts and found a tower, a graphics card, a CD drive, and 16 Gigs of Ram, and am at $758.95. They are as follows
Tower:
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0, Black Interior and Four Fans-1x 230mm front RED LED fan, 1x 140mm rear fan, 1x 230mm top fan, and 1x 230mm side fan

Graphics card:
MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

CD drive:
LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM

RAM:
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9Q-16GBXL
how am I doing

EDIT: Had a bunch of color tabs for some reason

Here's a question. Aside from the obvious of MechWarrior Online, what games are you planning on playing with this thing? Do you plan on doing anything besides gaming (For example, making movies, doing tons of photowork, 3D Modelling, AutoCAD, etc?). Do you plan on overclocking your system, be it CPU, RAM, Video Card or all of the above. How quiet do you want the system to be? Will that even be an issue if you plan on wearing noise cancelling headphones.

Lots of questions need answering so as to best help you get the optimal setup!

[guardian wolf]

I hope to get into designing games later on in college, but that is not on the agenda now, as if I need those upgrades later I will make them, I will probably be playing a little skyrim on the comp. new RC, if it comes out, HAWX 2, CoH, and sound is not a problem to me, unless it I can't hear my music over the computer. and do tell what is overclocking, as I don't think I've done that before.

[guardian wolf]

Stuff like UDK, Crysis Engine... did I forget to mention I was writing a book?

[Catamount]

Alright, Guardian Wolf, here's what I've got for a build. It's an Intel i5-based build (the 2500k is basically the builder's favorite right now), but you could go with an AMD bulldozer chip if you preferred. Truthfully, games will not display much of a difference either way for the foreseeable future.

Hard drives are expensive, so I just picked the cheapest thing that was 1TB or over for storage, and paired it with a 120GB SSD (with one of the new controllers that will actually make use of SATA III).

And, of course, I paired it with a Radeon HD 7970, since there is no other card you want on that budget, even remotely

Case:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811129097

PSU:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817151095

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157249

CPU:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115072

RAM:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231416

Graphics Card:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814121485

Hard drives:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822148840
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820227726

DVD Drive:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827135204

Windows 7:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16832116986

That should come to $1520 or so without shipping, and $1550 with shipping.


It's just a rough sketch of a build, so others may have some better suggestions, but I think it's a pretty good rough sketch.

You will NOT be upgrading this system for some time, especially on a single-monitor setup.

Edited by Catamount, 26 January 2012 - 01:50 PM.

[guardian wolf]

The Asus, or the Saphire?

[Catamount]

guardian wolf, on 26 January 2012 - 01:52 PM, said:

The Asus, or the Saphire?

Truthfully, it makes no real difference.

Also, you can use that HAF932 case if you like it. I went with the Antec 902, but they're both great cases.

Edited by Catamount, 26 January 2012 - 01:54 PM.

[Catamount]

Actually, I lied.

Asus has a better warranty than Sapphire (3 years instead of 2). Is that a huge difference? No, not really, but iirc, they're the same price, so you might as well get the Asus

[guardian wolf]

Thanks, so Joysticks/throttle that anybody likes?

[HeroicTofu]

I gotta say, I'm really digging Catamount's build. That thing will do everything you ever want it to do.

[Catamount]

HeroicTofu, on 26 January 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

I gotta say, I'm really digging Catamount's build.

So am I Sadly, I won't be able to justify the cost of upgrades for a bit.

Actually, Guardianwolf, what you're doing is what I did two years ago. I knew I wouldn't be bathing in cash during college (far from it, I eat hot dogs for dinner almost every night!), so a bit after I entered college, I slapped down all the cash I could for the best desktop and laptop I could afford, so that they'd last me until at least I was done with my undergrad studies. My desktop was was a ~$1200 build two years ago (these days it's about a $700 build, so it hasn't aged miserably). It's good for another year with no upgrades, two if I was willing to start playing all my games on medium (or low/medium in rare cases) instead of high or medium/high, and the only upgrade its had in its entire life is an SSD being added.

These days, things are changing and advancing more slowly, because of TDP barriers hitting us like brick walls (video cards just don't double in speed every single generation, partly because we're fast hitting the absolute miniaturization barrier, when quantum mechanics itself says "NOPE!"). So your machine should have a longer life than my machine without upgrades.

[Catamount]

As for joysticks, we have a good thread already, but to summarize:

Almost everything is either cheap junk, really delicate, or really expensive.

This stick works well apparently, but is really delicate: http://www.amazon.co...27617036&sr=8-1

Unless you're looking to spend a lot, I'd recommend the Thrustmaster T16000M:

http://www.amazon.co...&sr=1-1-catcorr

[Xake]

Thank you both for this thread. I actually have a similar budget and have been looking around for a good build that will last for a while without upgrading.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Catamount, on 26 January 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

Alright, Guardian Wolf, here's what I've got for a build. It's an Intel i5-based build (the 2500k is basically the builder's favorite right now), but you could go with an AMD bulldozer chip if you preferred. Truthfully, games will not display much of a difference either way for the foreseeable future.

Hard drives are expensive, so I just picked the cheapest thing that was 1TB or over for storage, and paired it with a 120GB SSD (with one of the new controllers that will actually make use of SATA III).

And, of course, I paired it with a Radeon HD 7970, since there is no other card you want on that budget, even remotely

Case:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811129097

PSU:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817151095

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157249

CPU:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115072

RAM:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231416

Graphics Card:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814121485

Hard drives:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822148840
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820227726

DVD Drive:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827135204

Windows 7:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16832116986

That should come to $1520 or so without shipping, and $1550 with shipping.


It's just a rough sketch of a build, so others may have some better suggestions, but I think it's a pretty good rough sketch.

You will NOT be upgrading this system for some time, especially on a single-monitor setup.

Good quality Solid build +1