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[Skwisgaar Skwigelf]

So here's what I'm thinking. On or after release sometime the devs should put together a mech pack in the store or even as an update that would consist of older mech designs, like stuff before or even during the Star League that didn't get produced afterwards. I say a store pack because I'm sure not everybody will care about them enough for a general release but I know I for sure would buy some of these with real cash. Here are a few I'm thinking of:

Gladiator
http://www.sarna.net...28BattleMech%29

Alfar
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Alfar

Mackie
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Mackie

Firebee
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Firebee

Hammerhands
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hammerhands

Battleaxe
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Battleaxe

Crossbow
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Crossbow


Any other "oldies but goodies" that could qualify here?


P.S. - I would REALLY like to see a Gladiator.

[Zaius Ex]

I concur. I would be willing to open my wallet for a "Ghosts of the Past" mech pack that had some/all of these awesome extinct mechs in it.

[ScrewCityChris]

WANT!! Don't care if it is months after release, this idea will open my wallet

Edited by ScrewCityChris, 20 March 2012 - 08:09 PM.

[Convaras Bloodskorn]

I am Sardonic, and I support this post.

[Belisarius1]

'Mechs can't be sold exclusively in the store. Sorry. That's pay-to-win.

I'd love to see star league stuff become available in general, though.

[Dlardrageth]

Belisarius†, on 20 March 2012 - 10:19 PM, said:

'Mechs can't be sold exclusively in the store. Sorry. That's pay-to-win.

I'd love to see star league stuff become available in general, though.

Actually, if they are not eligible for battles, why not? Not that I would actually consider fielding a MSK-5S Mackie in anything similar to a serious match, but as a vanity item for your Mech Hangar or the "practice mode" I could see that work. It can't be "Pay2Win" if you cannot actually win anything with it, by definiton.

Edited by Dlardrageth, 20 March 2012 - 10:37 PM.

[ice trey]

I'm all for the inclusion of Mech packs for purchase in MWO, and the Age of War pack would make a very good addition. I was also toying with the idea of MWO supporting "Star League Caches", which could contain rare 'mech designs and equipment. How they fit it into the game would be up to their discretion, though.

As for whether it's P2W or not, I don't know enough about the out-of-combat for this game. If your 'mech dies, do you have to buy a new one, or does it just respawn? Is there a commerce element to this game where players buy and sell gear?

If not, then I don't see the problem with buying these 'mechs in an online store. For the most part, 'mechs tend to be pretty balanced overall, and it looks like they're putting the most popular and most effective designs into the core product. I have a feeling that most of the other 3025'ers that would be left-over, potentially for being made into Mech Packs, would be anywhere from slightly worse to horribad in comparison to what will already be on the table. At that point, it would become more about variation than anything else anyway.

As for if the 'mechs were something you had to purchase with in-game currency, then yes, I would agree that being able to just "buy" mechs would be P2W. However, paying to "unlock" mechs would be fair, in my mind, as it would just grant you the ability to use in-game currency to buy a new design, rather than plop one directly into your hangar.

[Victor Morson]

ice trey, on 20 March 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

As for whether it's P2W or not, I don't know enough about the out-of-combat for this game. If your 'mech dies, do you have to buy a new one, or does it just respawn? Is there a commerce element to this game where players buy and sell gear?

Little is known about the gear or pricing, but what is known is 'mechs will never die. After a match you'll get your 'mech back with all of it's battle damage, and have to repair it; if you can't afford repairs you enter the next match with the damage intact. If this means you'll need to have spare supplies like MW2: Mercs (Your medium lasers get blown off? Hope you own more!) or not is not known right now. Hopefully it'll get brought up in the next Dev Blog which is supposed to be about the mechlab.

Belisarius†, on 20 March 2012 - 10:19 PM, said:

'Mechs can't be sold exclusively in the store. Sorry. That's pay-to-win.

I'd love to see star league stuff become available in general, though.

I don't mind if it's ultra expensive or even pay to unlock early, though. I want MWO to make money so it continues being supported - as long as the 'mechs being sold are comparable in capability to those that can be obtained freely, I'm OK with some exclusive pay chassis or "pay to get them first" arrangements.

I mean it's not ideal but I'm willing to compromise for the game to be a financial success, which while sad but true, is very very important. If they make money, we get more content both free and pay.

Long story short: I would pay for a custom chassis if I liked the style of it, but would be dismayed if it was out of line in capability with the free ones.

EDIT: I think honestly the term "Free to play" is abit dangerous. "Micro transaction based" would be more accurate for F2P games. I'm OK with this! I would pay a monthly fee to play MWO and I plan on making in-game customization purchases. I want people to spend money on this game, because that's how it stays afloat - it just needs to be careful about making spent money = easy victories, as you need to be very careful to avoid turning into a war of who spends the most money - that drives away players and ultimately hurts the bottom line in the long term.

Just further explaining why "Different 'mech of the same tier as a freely available one" feels OK to me, but "far superior 'mech to the freely available ones" does not, despite wanting to encourage people to buy stuff in game.

Edited by Victor Morson, 21 March 2012 - 12:44 AM.

[Thorn Hallis]

Belisarius†, on 20 March 2012 - 10:19 PM, said:

'Mechs can't be sold exclusively in the store. Sorry. That's pay-to-win.

Only if those mechs would be overpowered...which clearly isn't the case with AoW-era mechs.

[Skwisgaar Skwigelf]

It's not like gold ammo in WoT where you get a clear advantage, these mechs use the same weapons as everybody else.

[Helmer]

I would love to see older designs being purchaseable. If they were just vanity items to show off or even if they where fieldable. It'd take a certain type of pilot to field a Mackie.




Cheers,

[wwiiogre]

would pay for this or a 3025 pack or a 3039 pack, etc for era specific games

chris

[Skwisgaar Skwigelf]

I definitely would, but then again from what I've seen from the game PGI pretty much has my wallet already.

[Petroff Northrup]

Give me a price that does not exceed 3 digits and I will probably pay, like now.

[Agent CraZy DiP]

Classic Mech packs would be cool. I think this would be a premium purchase. Like $10 or $15 bucks for 2 or 3 mechs. Would be cool for Solaris Games, but probably not for practical use in the campaigns.