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[Jack Gallows]

Now that we know the role names, this kind of perks up as a possible issue.

There's a role AND a weight class of 'mech named the same thing, and the role can be more then what the weight class is. If I say it's an Assault 'mech....what do I mean? Did I just refer to it's weight class or it's role?

Just bringing this up to see if people think it may need to be looked at, or if it's something that doesn't really matter much.

Edited by Jack Gallows, 01 February 2012 - 12:15 PM.

[Zimm Kotare]

I can appreciate where you're coming from, but I would hope most people who will be playing this for more than 10 minutes before going back to "Generic Contemporary-2511AD Combat VII" would be able to manage the distinction without their brains dribbling out of their ears.

Although I guess the Assault Role could have been "Front Line" or something similar? I dunno, I vote; no biggie

[Heronimus Bosch]

Jack Gallows, on 01 February 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

Now that we know the role names, this kind of perks up as a possible issue.

There's a role AND a weight class of 'mech named the same thing, and the role can be more then what the weight class is. If I say it's an Assault 'mech....what do I mean? Did I just refer to it's weight class or it's role?

Just bringing this up to see if people think it may need to be looked at, or if it's something that doesn't really matter much.

Personally I think the Role should be called Attacker as it is in the Game Section of the web site, but I a sure people will learn the difference between Role and Weight class soon enough.

[MaddMaxx]

You drive an Assault Mech.

You play the Assault Role.

Depends on what the question asked of you is.

"What Mech you driving?"

"What Role you playing?"

[Ghost]

Well they could call it Offensive, but...

[Jack Gallows]

MaddMaxx, on 01 February 2012 - 12:16 PM, said:

You drive an Assault Mech.

You play the Assault Role.

Depends on what the question asked of you is.

"What Mech you driving?"

"What Role you playing?"

"What are you fighting?"

"Assault"

"Class or Role?"

"blarg dead."


It's probably not a big deal, especially once we get playing, was just seeing what people think about it Or if they had a name they'd rather use over the current.

Edited by Jack Gallows, 01 February 2012 - 12:19 PM.

[MaddMaxx]

Jack Gallows, on 01 February 2012 - 12:17 PM, said:

"What are you fighting?"

"The enemy!"

[osito]

Some people may have a problem with that, but if they know a decent amount about the game lore they should be able to figure out some assault mechs are designed to be brawlers (victor mech) stand off defensive/siege mechs (longbow) or a solid mix of long and short range. A solid line mech (stalker).

some of the best assault company i have seen use heavy/med mechs only. they provide good mix of speed/firepower/endurance which is needed for pure offensive operations

[Jack Gallows]

osito, on 01 February 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

Some people may have a problem with that, but if they know a decent amount about the game lore they should be able to figure out some assault mechs are designed to be brawlers (victor mech) stand off defensive/siege mechs (longbow) or a solid mix of long and short range. A solid line mech (stalker).

some of the best assault company i have seen use heavy/med mechs only. they provide good mix of speed/firepower/endurance which is needed for pure offensive operations

The point is though, that information is a big deal. If I'm not in range to get the info of what it is, telling me the mech and weight class gives me a really good idea of how to counter or what to do about the situation, or how dire it is. We don't know what tricks people are going to pull with these 'mechs, as what the Tech Readouts say may go out the window due to how clever people are with modules and such.

[phelanjkell]

Assault role does not automatically mean assault mechs.

[Omigir]

any weight class can fill any roll. Some mechs are allot easier to fill that roll...

[Mchawkeye]

Have to admit, whilst I see the OP's point, I think it really isn't that confusing.

We are all smart, good looking, not over weight (despite what Aegis may think...) attractive people. I'm sure we can figure the difference between mech class and mech role with the devs having to resort to any over burden sense of patronisation or over simplification.

[Mason Grimm]

I think anyone smart enough to get the moderate learning curve of the Battletech/Mechwarrior universe will be smart and aware enough to understand that Assault role does not require/mean Assault mechs.

Just sayin.

[Fiachdubh]

Command
Suggested BattleMech Class: Light/Medium/Heavy
So youre saying that the Cyclops will not be amongst the available mechs?

[Nik Van Rhijn]

Vote for attacker - we are going to have a lot of new people - simpler not to confuse them if we don't have to.

[Alaric Wolf Kerensky]

They could easily call it "attacker" or "Offensive" I suppose, although it matters little in the end.

[Omigir]

So we are going to right away assume new people are dumb and are unable to learn? Way to not give new fans any credit.. T__T

[Garuss Acine]

Fiachdubh, on 01 February 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

Command
Suggested BattleMech Class: Light/Medium/Heavy
So youre saying that the Cyclops will not be amongst the available mechs?

they are saying the suggested mechs for the job are Light/Medium/Heavy, however I for one will be taking an Assault mech. if for no other reason than that I can more punishment and stay in the fighter longer than most of those other weight groups.

to be honest the mech I am most likely to take for the Commander role would be the Battlemaster, the flexiably this mech has is most impressive, the speed of 64.8kmh is not shabby for a 85 ton mech at all, 14.5 tons of armor, and a decent spread of weapons leaves it only out ranged by extremely long ranged weapons (IE. LRMS, ER energy weapons, etc).

[Corpsecandle]

Voted "Yes", but would have preferred to call it a noncommittal "sure".

I wouldn't have thought of it myself, but I can easily see the value of changing the role name. Anytime you create overlapping terminology you're bound to create unnecessary confusion. It seems simple enough to correct, and now would be the time to do it rather than down the line after it's already been deeply ingrained into the player-base.

[Nik Van Rhijn]

Alternatively the commander could use something like a Catapult. This would allow him to concentrate on commanding while being able to lend support or fire on targets designated by the scouts. They would need to have a "minder" to keep an eye out for enemy mechs trying to take them out.