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[AdamBaines]

AdamBaines, on 14 February 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:

Always Assassin......

If that makes the first cut in the game, I hope they keep the general look of it, especially the cockpit.

Good lord I'm special today.......That this was about the 40 not the 45.

45 Id go Vindie or Hatchetman. It would be cool to see if they could do the Ejection Head on the Hatcheman.

[MilitantMonk]

Wow these polls have actually been really tough to decide! So many great options I'd love to pilot in game. I think I would have to settle on Vindicator though. It was one of the first mechs I used in table top and it's a very forgiving ride that offers enough firepower to hurt the heavies.

[Orcinus]

While they all have their qualities...
A hatchet is an axe is an axe.

[Hanyit Greyhame]

The correct answer here is Black Jack, obviously. My preferred ride when MWO mercs comes out, along with some sort of scout. What part of 2 AC/2s, 4 MLs, and JJs is bad in that weight range is bad there? Good damage across all ranges and excellent burst maneuverability with its
JJs. Me Gusta

[ShoveI]

will it be the blackjack with the ac or the updated one with the ER LL?

[Jehan]

No Phoenix Hawk ?

Hatchetman then...

[El Loco]

I went with the Hatchetman. I love the design for many reasons. The axe is just the cherry on top of a great cake! It carries a AC-10, some medium lasers, and has JJs. I don't need a 100 km/h medium 'Mech... as long as the chassis can jump. Plus, this 'Mech has some of the most distinct looks of all!

I also would like to see the Wyvern... it is a very potent 'Mech, though the looks are ridiculous. Re-designing it would be necessary. (I still have the mini somewhere at home... and this doesn't look as stupid as the drawn design^^)

[Egomane]

I need only one 45er ... Vindicator 1R

- has range with its PPC and LRM.
- can fight at closer distances with the lasers and the PPC
- has good armor for its weight class
- enough heatsinks to fire all its weapons
- mobility through jumpjets
- is a capellan design

It is a perfect package!

The second place goes to Jack Black ... sorry ... Blackjack. It is nearly as good as the Vindicator.
In third position the Hatchetman for the hatchet he is named after and the very cool ejection system. Sometimes I wish Doc Banzai would work for us capellans.

[Aegis Kleais]

In all honesty, it's a 4 way tie (cause I don't like a single one of them).

Uninspiring chassis be they known for melee or just too human looking in design (The Wyvern looks almost like a Mech-sized cyborg).

Blechs all around.

[Felix Dante]

Garth Erlam, on 14 February 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

As usual, poll link is here:
https://www.facebook...7198/?qa_ref=qd
Choices are Blackjack, Hatchetman, Vindicator, Wyvern.

In order of preference:

• Hatchetman
  
• Vindicator
  
• Blackjack
  
• Wyvern

[Exilyth]

Blackjack or Hatchetman. I just can't decide...

[IxxxI]

Vindicator is jack of all trades and has PPC, but Hatchetman is fearsome in close quarters and quite mobile. I still can't handle my choice. Can we have them all ?

[phalanx]

So why isn't the Pheonix Hawk on this list again?

Oh well, I choose Blackjack.

[osito]

I chose hatchetman. A ac10 to open holes at midrange. med lasers for backup, and a huge hatchet with jj for added mobility it is a good mid range brawler.

Although i was conflicted in my choice. The blackjack is a solid mech that can hit at any range.

[chewie]

Hmm, hatchetman, nice enough mech, but only peoples favourite because it has a Hatchet

Come on fellas, pick something that has the chance to be coded in and have actual usage of ALL its weapons available to it.

I know nothing has been said about physical attacks yet, but even so, you don't take a mech just cause of how it looks (except for all the urbie lovers that is)

I hope they give us a good render of the BlackJack

In fact i just found all my old screen caps of teh 3025 mechs from the mech lab.

time to upload em


edit

pics are up in the fan art area (seemed appropriate)

http://mwomercs.com/...t-3025-sculpts/

Edited by chewie, 14 February 2012 - 01:38 PM.

[Marauder3D]

Blackjack variants are ok, but the common Blackjack with twin AC/2s are just so undergunned at range it isn't funny. Might as well just use harsh language and hope it hurts your opponent's feelings.

Sub in ER Large Lasers and then we're talking.

[Hallgeirr Olafsson]

I like the Vindicator a bunch as an all round Mech, but there's something viscerally pleasing about getting close and using a mass weapon. I'll take the Hachetman!

[GargoyleKDR]

Orcinus, on 14 February 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

While they all have their qualities...
A hatchet is an axe is an axe.

Except when it is a Hockey stick. Then it's an object of blunt trauma in an organized sport.

[Solis Obscuri]

Out of these 4 'mechs, I can honestly say only the Vindicator and Wyvern represent a fairly balanced approach to combat, and of those, the Wyvern is generally a better bet - the Vindicator is pretty tough for its size, and it has excellent heat management, but overall the approach is a little too conservative, and it lacks punch - the PPC is really the only significan weapon, and it has a slow cycle time and a minimum range requirement. The LRM/5 is a peashooter, and just a single MLas and SLas don't offer much close-range punch; add to that the Vindicator just isn't fast enough to stay at long range like a Griffin can, and it's kind of a sub-optimal design. By contrast, the Wyvern is armored as well as a Centurion (which is not required to be only deployed in cities, mountains, and dense forests) but with some armor shifted from arms to legs (good call for using jump jets), and it has an effective weapons spread at any range - much like the Centurion, it gains punch as it closes in, and it has jump jets, the only thing I'd really consider is that it could maybe use a couple more heat sinks, but the weapon layout isn't so heat-intensive as to make that a crippling problem.

The Blackjack is just a horrible mishmash of close-range laser boat (albeit one without adequate heat sinks to stand on the trigger) and a long-range anti-infantry platform (why????). It would almost make sense as an anti-aircraft vehicle with strong close-range defensive capabilities, but it would be served much better by trading a little armor for some additional ammunition in that role. All in all, it's just a horrible load-out.

Then the Hatchetman, a strictly urban combat design with crap armor that's sole purpose seems to be charging in to hit things with an axe. Too bad it's slow! Only saving grace is at least it has an adequate supply of AC/10 ammo, but with that all stored in the CT with the engine, and only 14/4 armor on the CT, it's just begging for a Hunchie to light it up like a firecracker. Near as I can tell, it's mostly designed to be obnoxious, and hopefully get off a lucky kill against a better unit with weak melee capabilities using either the hatchet or a DFA, before being summarily one-shot through it's flimsy rear armor. Or just having its legs fall off, since 11 points is pretty weak for trying to DFA...

Overall, though, I'm interested to see a total of four designs with a 64.8km/h top speed and full jump jets selected from the 45ton category. It would have been nice to see a Phoenix Hawk here, at least for some variety...

[Hayden]

long-time blackjack fan.