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[Nordhammer]

Are you ready? its hard so search these forums for one of the MWO SUPPORTED TEAMSPEAK servers and here is the HARD part get on chat with us evil beta testers and JOIN A GROUP.You'll find most beta players are very happy to coach/teach/help new players learn this game.Most groups out there are not "premade" groups just ppl who are on a teampspeak or some such voice chat running pick up groups...the abilty to talk during a game is a huge factor to winning a match.

Edited by Nordhammer, 01 November 2012 - 10:06 PM.

[Psydotek]

Indeed and I hope they build Voice Chat into the game very very soon.

[Johnny Reb]

Ditto! Also hope they put it on steam and its explodes.

[Alexandrix]

Nordhammer, on 01 November 2012 - 10:05 PM, said:

Are you ready? its hard so search these forums for one of the MWO SUPPORTED TEAMSPEAK servers and here is the HARD part get on chat with us evil beta testers and JOIN A GROUP.You'll find most beta players are very happy to coach/teach/help new players learn this game.Most groups out there are not "premade" groups just ppl who are on a teampspeak or some such voice chat running pick up groups...the abilty to talk during a game is a huge factor to winning a match.

gonna go ahead and repeat this here,since i guess you missed in the post ram locked.


That's a strawman nord.you want every person who downloads MWO,to also download a 3rd party program and find the teamspeak addresses to join? most people that play online video games rarely,if ever,visit the forums...much less are they active in them.you think they are gonna bother with team speak? or do you think they are gonna get rolled repeatedly and say "screw it,this game sucks"?

Is it hard to get on TS,join some people,and steamroll pugs? no,of course not.Been there,done that.Boring as crap.But the fact of the matter is,the majority of people are never going to get on TS,at least not until they decide they want to join a group and play with
them.If they stick around long enough to get to that point anyways.

Saying "ZoMg why doesn't everyone just get on da teamspeakzz like me???" doesn't change the fact that premades never should have been fighting pugs,And the premades are only making matters worse by continuing to steam roll and knowing full well what they are doing.

You guys continue to insist on forcing your way of playing on random new comers,I can just as easily say "Hey,you know the matchmaking is borked right now,why don't you stop "exploiting the system" and pug until the fixes are put in?"
see,sounds silly when i try to force my playstyle on you doesn't it?

Edited by Alexandrix, 01 November 2012 - 10:10 PM.

[PerfectTommy]

VOIP is exploiting the system?

So the C3 VOIP the game is programmed to interface with is an exploit?




-PT

who has yet to join a single team, but hangs out on the TS server sometimes to shoot the breeze with folks

[Wraith05]

We don't like your playstyle! so we are going to force you to play a new playstyle!

That argument goes both ways. Believe me I understand people don't want to get stompped, but that will happen no matter if going up against a full premade or just a pug that orgainzed/communicates. And people don't want to wait in queues forever and a day to play a match, which is a possibility for the premades when they are forced to play only premades.

A much better solution is voice comms in game or at least voice macros/hotkeys to give quick commands. Hit the U key to announce "target x unit" to the rest of the team quickly.

[Insidious Johnson]

Oh, no, premades are evil. I know, I'm part of an evil premade. Community expectations have licensed the behavior. Muhuhahaha!

[Alexandrix]

PerfectTommy, on 01 November 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

VOIP is exploiting the system?

So the C3 VOIP the game is programmed to interface with is an exploit?




-PT

who has yet to join a single team, but hangs out on the TS server sometimes to shoot the breeze with folks

I used the quotation marks to punctuate how silly either side of this argument is.Is it exploiting? no of course not,that statement is just as silly.besides,you know the C3 function is garbage and no one uses it.anyone in a predmade is on TS/vent/mumble.rare exceptions not with standing.

Is it abusing a broken system to the detriment of a game that already has only a niche audience anyways? yes,without a doubt.

[Vrekgar]

Add a greater capability for people to signal focus targets with a simple keypress.

Make a system where you can have a pre-canned message to inform the team what your doing, or what you need. (Help, Scouting, etc...)

Give some hud warning or message when the person who "Took Command" of the map issues commands.

Also give the players some way to signal recipt of messages (Rodger, affirmative, Solid Copy, etc...)

[PerfectTommy]

It would be nice if the team commander could target a mech, press a button, and everyone in the team sees the target mech's hitbox turn from red to gold with a "FOCUS FIRE HERE" tag appear above it.





-PT

[MadcatX]

I've found that there is another hidden truth about premades: not all of them are good, even those that announce themselves as one. I play PUG's for the most part.

[MuffinTop]

PerfectTommy, on 01 November 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

It would be nice if the team commander could target a mech, press a button, and everyone in the team sees the target mech's hitbox turn from red to gold with a "FOCUS FIRE HERE" tag appear above it.





-PT

Press B for the map, and in the upper left hand corner is an option to be commander. How many times have you been commander in match, and if so what commands did you send to your team? Friend me, and I'll drop wiffff you cuz.

[Postumus]

I hate the word premade, it's so MMORPG and it sounds dirty. I feel bad for new players that get rolled over by teams (not premades; it's a built in, encouraged game function) for about a minute, and then I remember what I did the first time it happened to me: took the five minutes to download teamspeak. No one ******* about solo neuts getting stomped by alliances on comms in EVE; Yet, the game thrives, because it's fun. ******** about "pugstomping" is arguing for intervention to support laziness. I understand the anxiety about wanting the game experience to be enjoyable for the new player, but catering to the lowest common denominator degrades the game experience for everyone. Matchmaking changes may cause this issue to go away, or not. It may even turn out that making teams only drop against other teams is unfeasible. Whatever happens, instead of going on about "pugstomping" and "premades", encourage and help people to get into comms. Using comms is easy and fun, I swear.

[Yokaiko]

Psydotek, on 01 November 2012 - 10:08 PM, said:

Indeed and I hope they build Voice Chat into the game very very soon.

It will change little, there won't be a defined leader, so expect 5 bosses to start dukinh it out.

Without a lobby you have no control.

[Leetskeet]

Nordhammer, on 01 November 2012 - 10:05 PM, said:

Are you ready? its hard so search these forums for one of the MWO SUPPORTED TEAMSPEAK servers and here is the HARD part get on chat with us evil beta testers and JOIN A GROUP.You'll find most beta players are very happy to coach/teach/help new players learn this game.Most groups out there are not "premade" groups just ppl who are on a teampspeak or some such voice chat running pick up groups...the abilty to talk during a game is a huge factor to winning a match.

Oh it's one of those people that don't understand the word premade

Edited by Leetskeet, 01 November 2012 - 11:06 PM.

[Lykaon]

Alexandrix, on 01 November 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

gonna go ahead and repeat this here,since i guess you missed in the post ram locked.


That's a strawman nord.you want every person who downloads MWO,to also download a 3rd party program and find the teamspeak addresses to join? most people that play online video games rarely,if ever,visit the forums...much less are they active in them.you think they are gonna bother with team speak? or do you think they are gonna get rolled repeatedly and say "screw it,this game sucks"?

Is it hard to get on TS,join some people,and steamroll pugs? no,of course not.Been there,done that.Boring as crap.But the fact of the matter is,the majority of people are never going to get on TS,at least not until they decide they want to join a group and play with
them.If they stick around long enough to get to that point anyways.

Saying "ZoMg why doesn't everyone just get on da teamspeakzz like me???" doesn't change the fact that premades never should have been fighting pugs,And the premades are only making matters worse by continuing to steam roll and knowing full well what they are doing.

You guys continue to insist on forcing your way of playing on random new comers,I can just as easily say "Hey,you know the matchmaking is borked right now,why don't you stop "exploiting the system" and pug until the fixes are put in?"
see,sounds silly when i try to force my playstyle on you doesn't it?

I wil lalso call strawman on you...

If most people don't use the forums and are essentially Pugs then how is it possible that the majority of players are always loosing games to a minority.

It would stand to figure that the majority of pug matches lost were to the rest of the majority ie other pugs.

What I am getting at is nothing will change with strict pug vs pug matches.the victory will always go to the better players/team.

A vocal minority of truely aweful pilots will always cry on the forums about anything and everything they blame for their losses since they will never ever blame themselves.

[Brien]

All the QQers are about to get their wish and I think it will not be good for anyone...but oh well keep crying and maybe they will nerf other things that do not need it.

Edited by Brien, 01 November 2012 - 11:34 PM.

[Killeralpha]

You seem like just another ***** who never played WoT or at least never understood how their matchmaking works.

If the noobs from PGI would finally understand how that mm works then you will enjoy fights against other "organised" teams np.
But whoever doesnt wanna stay with kids and really likes to be lone wolf has all the ways to have fun too