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[Thom Frankfurt]

RogueSpear, on 29 April 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:

Hey, when the majority of the unit was big and slow I was happy enough to throw you straight into a slugfest you couldn't win or outrun and see how you reacted. Now I'll have to shake it up a little.

I'd win the day by using superior knuckle dragging tactics and treachery.

I was actually thinking about getting on SSW and seeing if I could actually make a Marauder worthy of the name. Might be tricky with that price limit you have in place...

@Dal I was thinking about having Thom corner some Snow Raven tech in one of the access bays and 'persuade' him to tell him everything he knew about the 'Not named Clan.' He was even going to get one of the freaky deaky Greek girls on the drop ship to let him have access to delivery room photos of her kids being born, add those to the unit's bio and broad beam it to the Falcons when we make our assault. Wondering how they'd appreciate that...

Edit: Added the last paragraph.

Edited by Thom Frankfurt, 29 April 2013 - 07:31 PM.

[RogueSpear]

See what you can do Thom, then PM me the results. We can certainly discuss it, you've let me away with plenty in the past. Pretty much all the starting rules are negotiable, some just take more breaking than others. Depending on what folk do, I may or may not approve any overpriced mech you come up with.

[Thom Frankfurt]

Oh the sweet things you say to me... Marauder III

[dal10]

Marauder MAD-5J

Mass: 75 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 18,025,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,652

Chassis: GM Marauder Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Vlar 375 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Valiant Lamellor Standard Armor
Armament:
1 PPC
2 Large Lasers
4 SRM-4s
Manufacturer: Junkwerks
Primary Factory: Sanctuary
Communications System: Dalban Micronixs
Targeting and Tracking System: Blindfire

================================================================================
Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 114 points 4.00
Internal Locations: 1 CT, 4 LT, 1 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine: XL Fusion Engine 375 19.50
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 15(30) 5.00
Gyro: Standard 4.00
Cockpit: Standard 3.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA
Armor: Standard Armor AV - 200 12.50

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 23 31
Center Torso (rear) 8
L/R Torso 16 26
L/R Torso (rear) 6
L/R Arm 12 19
L/R Leg 16 25

================================================================================
Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PPC RT 10 3 7.00
Large Laser RA 8 2 5.00
2 SRM-4s RA 6 2 4.00
Large Laser LA 8 2 5.00
2 SRM-4s LA 6 2 4.00
@SRM-4 (25) RA - 1 1.00
@SRM-4 (25) LA - 1 1.00
Free Critical Slots: 16

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 7 Points: 17
5 2 3 1 0 3 0 Structure: 3
Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, SRM 2/2/0

there, have a tech 2 marauder.

[RogueSpear]

Marauder III Thom? I've never seen it

[Thom Frankfurt]

RogueSpear, on 29 April 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

Marauder III Thom? I've never seen it

It was a homebrew design I've had for like ever. Pretty nasty. My whole thought on it was that if the Marauder was such a beloved design, why didn't the IS ever make an Omni out of it?

[RogueSpear]

Ahhhh, I see. Whelp, you know the rules - justify it. Significantly. Company, factory, who designed it, how'd you get it, etc. Homebrew chassis are fine by me, but I am gonna make you work for it.

[Thom Frankfurt]

Gotcha! But I'm probably going to be kicking around ideas while waiting to see what everyone else is going to bring. Lightest I'll go is 50t and heaviest is 95, but I'm hoping to avoid the assault mechs.

[dal10]

you should make the marauder 3 a 55 ton version of the marauder. think mad cat 1, 2, and 3.


Marauder Mk. III MAD-7R

Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-F
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 8,813,300 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,482

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 275 Light Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous w/ CASE
Armament:
2 Snub-Nose PPCs
1 Light AC/5
2 Medium Lasers
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 91 points 3.00
Internal Locations: 1 HD, 2 CT, 2 LT, 1 RT, 2 LA, 3 RA, 1 LL, 2 RL
Engine: Light Fusion Engine 275 12.00
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 13(26) 3.00
Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT
Gyro: Standard 3.00
Cockpit: Standard 3.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 170 9.50
Armor Locations: 2 LT, 4 RT, 4 LA, 3 RA, 1 LL
CASE Locations: 1 RT 0.50

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 18 26
Center Torso (rear) 7
L/R Torso 13 19
L/R Torso (rear) 7
L/R Arm 9 17
L/R Leg 13 21

================================================================================
Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Light AC/5 RT 1 2 5.00
Medium Laser RA 3 1 1.00
Snub-Nose PPC RA 10 2 6.00
Medium Laser LA 3 1 1.00
Snub-Nose PPC LA 10 2 6.00
@Light AC/5 (40) RT - 2 2.00
Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 15
5 4 3 0 0 2 0 Structure: 3
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

Edited by dal10, 03 May 2013 - 06:25 PM.

[Sparks Murphey]

I'll be bringing pretty much the same Cent as last time, with the possibility of swapping the C3 Master out for a Beagle and jump jets if we don't want to go with the C3 route again. Don't forget, with MASC on, this thing does almost 130km/h, if only in short bursts.

[Sparks Murphey]

dal10, on 03 May 2013 - 06:07 PM, said:

you should make the marauder 3 a 55 ton version of the marauder. think mad cat 1, 2, and 3.


Marauder Mk. III MAD-7R

Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-F
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 8,813,300 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,482

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 275 Light Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous w/ CASE
Armament:
2 Snub-Nose PPCs
1 Light AC/5
2 Medium Lasers
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 91 points 3.00
Internal Locations: 1 HD, 2 CT, 2 LT, 1 RT, 2 LA, 3 RA, 1 LL, 2 RL
Engine: Light Fusion Engine 275 12.00
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 13(26) 3.00
Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT
Gyro: Standard 3.00
Cockpit: Standard 3.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 170 9.50
Armor Locations: 2 LT, 4 RT, 4 LA, 3 RA, 1 LL
CASE Locations: 1 RT 0.50

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 18 26
Center Torso (rear) 7
L/R Torso 13 19
L/R Torso (rear) 7
L/R Arm 9 17
L/R Leg 13 21

================================================================================
Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Light AC/5 RT 1 2 5.00
Medium Laser RA 3 1 1.00
Snub-Nose PPC RA 10 2 6.00
Medium Laser LA 3 1 1.00
Snub-Nose PPC LA 10 2 6.00
@Light AC/5 (40) RT - 2 2.00
Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 15
5 4 3 0 0 2 0 Structure: 3
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

Sadly, the snubnoses, light fusion and light AC/5 won't be around for a few years yet. What about...


Marauder III MAD-6J

Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3059
Cost: 12,227,950 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,481

Chassis: GM Marauder Lite Endo-Steel
Power Plant: GM 330 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets: Northrup 11000
Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor: Valiant Lamellor Standard Armor w/ CASE
Armament:
2 Magna Mk IIIE ER Large Lasers
2 Magna Mk II Medium Lasers
1 Mydron Excel LB 2-X AC
Manufacturer: Ronin Incorporated
Primary Factory: Wallis
Communications System: Barret Party Line-200
Targeting and Tracking System: Wasat Watchdog W100

================================================================================
Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 91 points 3.00
Internal Locations: 1 HD, 3 LT, 3 RT, 4 LA, 3 RA
Engine: XL Fusion Engine 330 12.50
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 6 Standard
Jump Jet Locations: 2 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL 3.00
Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00
Gyro: Standard 4.00
Cockpit: Standard 3.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA
Armor: Standard Armor AV - 160 10.00
CASE Locations: 1 LT 0.50

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 18 27
Center Torso (rear) 8
L/R Torso 13 16
L/R Torso (rear) 6
L/R Arm 9 18
L/R Leg 13 18

================================================================================
Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LB 2-X AC RT 1 4 6.00
Medium Laser RA 3 1 1.00
ER Large Laser RA 12 2 5.00
Medium Laser LA 3 1 1.00
ER Large Laser LA 12 2 5.00
@LB 2-X (Slug) (45) LT - 1 1.00
Free Critical Slots: 11

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 15
6j 2 2 2 0 2 1 Structure: 3
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

[Thom Frankfurt]

I'm dying to give those new PPCs a try... I haven't even used them on TT. I'm not one for tampering with the Marauder's tonnage. I'd keep it at 75t.

Truthfully I'm trying to find some middle ground between Thom's tastes and my tastes. Character Thom loves assaults and thinks that anything less than 90 tons is for wimps. RL me frowns upon anything over 55t... you kind of get that impression from my RPs...

What I want to do is find something with that 'command feel' that a commander would want, and something mobile and able to mix it up with the bad guys.

But I am happy to say that my homie is sending me a whole bunch of books so I'll very soon be able to disgust you all with designs from my blackened heart.

[dal10]

i never knew what year this was set in, so i just made something that would be reasonably priced.

second attempt using gear only found in 3059.



Marauder Mk. III MAD-7R

Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3059
Cost: 9,864,717 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,412

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 275 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
2 PPCs
2 Medium Lasers
1 LB 2-X AC
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 91 points 3.00
Internal Locations: 1 HD, 2 CT, 2 LT, 1 RT, 3 LA, 2 RA, 1 LL, 2 RL
Engine: XL Fusion Engine 275 8.00
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 13(26) 3.00
Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT
Gyro: Standard 3.00
Cockpit: Standard 3.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA
Armor: Standard Armor AV - 176 11.00

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 18 28
Center Torso (rear) 7
L/R Torso 13 19
L/R Torso (rear) 7
L/R Arm 9 17
L/R Leg 13 23

================================================================================
Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LB 2-X AC RT 1 4 6.00
Medium Laser RA 3 1 1.00
PPC RA 10 3 7.00
Medium Laser LA 3 1 1.00
PPC LA 10 3 7.00
@LB 2-X (Cluster) (45) RT - 1 1.00
@LB 2-X (Slug) (45) RT - 1 1.00
Free Critical Slots: 9

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 14
5 3 4 3 0 2 0 Structure: 3
Special Abilities: SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

as for spark's marauder design. 6/9/6 does not feel right on a marauder (at least to me). also, it would be the M variant not J most likely(for yours), as marik is usually the one to drop PPCs on a ppc design for large lasers.

Edited by dal10, 03 May 2013 - 09:19 PM.

[RogueSpear]

The Mad Cat III was a dumb gimmick and we all know it.
6/9/6 on a 55t medium seems legit to me. If you're taking 20 tonnes off a design, it should move faster.

[Thom Frankfurt]

RogueSpear, on 04 May 2013 - 04:23 AM, said:

The Mad Cat III was a dumb gimmick and we all know it.
6/9/6 on a 55t medium seems legit to me. If you're taking 20 tonnes off a design, it should move faster.

Thank you! Personally I thought the MadCat 2 was kind of lame too.

Mr. Spear, any chance of us running across some Night Gyr's? I'm looking forward to seeing that laser heat sink light show.

[RogueSpear]

Mad Cat II was a favourite of a friend of mine and did seem like a logical progression, though for the life of me I couldn't figure out why the heavier design was the one with JJs.
As for the Night Gyr, I did consider the raid being to steal Laser Heat Sinks. Only problem is, they were introduced ten years earlier than I'd thought in 3051. They're also explicitly phased out of use before long, so I'm not sure if it's timeline appropriate. Of course, the science caste does continue to tinker with the technology and this is a research base...
In other words, you shall see what I tell you to and all doors are currently open

[RogueSpear]

Well, one way or another the reboot will be going live inside of the next two weeks. Unfortunately I can't be more specific than that, I'm in the last week before this deadline and I didn't get all the bios I needed last night. After the deadline I'll probably be drunk for a few days, but it'll go live pretty quick after that. If needed we'll push back the June 1st drop.