Anyone else around here fiddling with this?
So far, its nice pretty and clean, a bit daunting at first as its not exactly normal windows takes a while to find important aspects such as control pannel, even finding the option for shutting down your PC can be a mare if you haven't already seen videos etc.
Not entirely sold it will be popular given how different it is, and atm i would say not standard user friendly.
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Started by Oderint dum Metuant, Mar 03 2012 03:02 AM
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 03:21 AM
Can you already give us a recommendation - Windows 7 or 8?
Concerning stability, functionality and gaming.
Concerning stability, functionality and gaming.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 03:34 AM
In the 3 hours i have had it running no.
Funtionality as far as i can see so far, its Windows 7 with a flashy new desktop, that without some work is not end user friendly at all, you can plainly see that MS have tried to make it almost like a social network style of an OS, friends,videos,photos can all be uploaded, the in built messenger allows you to add not only MSN,yahoo etc but Facebook,Google+ all under one messenger service.
As yet i have not found any of my hardware drivers do not work, everything installs ok AMD already offer RC drivers for Windows 8 preview which was a major bonus.
Infact some of the items Windows 8 said would no longer work, do perfectly fine after a clean reinstall.
As yet i have not come across any issues stability wise, and im reinstalling games as i type, as it wont let me play them from my windows 7 partition.
so i'll let you know how that goes
There are some niggles, probably the most prominent, there is a widget that is hidden untill mouse over, that houses the options for settings and even shutdown, restart etc, on a duel monitor setup like i have, it is a major pain to get it to show up when you want it again just simply imo its not user friendly at this time.
Funtionality as far as i can see so far, its Windows 7 with a flashy new desktop, that without some work is not end user friendly at all, you can plainly see that MS have tried to make it almost like a social network style of an OS, friends,videos,photos can all be uploaded, the in built messenger allows you to add not only MSN,yahoo etc but Facebook,Google+ all under one messenger service.
As yet i have not found any of my hardware drivers do not work, everything installs ok AMD already offer RC drivers for Windows 8 preview which was a major bonus.
Infact some of the items Windows 8 said would no longer work, do perfectly fine after a clean reinstall.
As yet i have not come across any issues stability wise, and im reinstalling games as i type, as it wont let me play them from my windows 7 partition.
so i'll let you know how that goes
There are some niggles, probably the most prominent, there is a widget that is hidden untill mouse over, that houses the options for settings and even shutdown, restart etc, on a duel monitor setup like i have, it is a major pain to get it to show up when you want it again just simply imo its not user friendly at this time.
Edited by DV^McKenna, 03 March 2012 - 03:40 AM.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:56 AM
DV^McKenna, on 03 March 2012 - 03:34 AM, said:
In the 3 hours i have had it running no.
Funtionality as far as i can see so far, its Windows 7 with a flashy new desktop, that without some work is not end user friendly at all, you can plainly see that MS have tried to make it almost like a social network style of an OS, friends,videos,photos can all be uploaded, the in built messenger allows you to add not only MSN,yahoo etc but Facebook,Google+ all under one messenger service.
As yet i have not found any of my hardware drivers do not work, everything installs ok AMD already offer RC drivers for Windows 8 preview which was a major bonus.
Infact some of the items Windows 8 said would no longer work, do perfectly fine after a clean reinstall.
As yet i have not come across any issues stability wise, and im reinstalling games as i type, as it wont let me play them from my windows 7 partition.
so i'll let you know how that goes
There are some niggles, probably the most prominent, there is a widget that is hidden untill mouse over, that houses the options for settings and even shutdown, restart etc, on a duel monitor setup like i have, it is a major pain to get it to show up when you want it again just simply imo its not user friendly at this time.
Funtionality as far as i can see so far, its Windows 7 with a flashy new desktop, that without some work is not end user friendly at all, you can plainly see that MS have tried to make it almost like a social network style of an OS, friends,videos,photos can all be uploaded, the in built messenger allows you to add not only MSN,yahoo etc but Facebook,Google+ all under one messenger service.
As yet i have not found any of my hardware drivers do not work, everything installs ok AMD already offer RC drivers for Windows 8 preview which was a major bonus.
Infact some of the items Windows 8 said would no longer work, do perfectly fine after a clean reinstall.
As yet i have not come across any issues stability wise, and im reinstalling games as i type, as it wont let me play them from my windows 7 partition.
so i'll let you know how that goes
There are some niggles, probably the most prominent, there is a widget that is hidden untill mouse over, that houses the options for settings and even shutdown, restart etc, on a duel monitor setup like i have, it is a major pain to get it to show up when you want it again just simply imo its not user friendly at this time.
I'm also running this on my work computer. I pretty much agree with everything said here, but would like to add that the included drivers for AMD Radeon are newer than the ones posted on AMD's site for the developer build.
I also got to check it out running on a tablet/touchscreen tonight. The metro UI is much more intuitive than with a keyboard/mouse. At this point in time, I don't see any reason to run Windows 8 unless you're using it with a touch interface, imo.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 06:27 AM
DV^McKenna, on 03 March 2012 - 03:34 AM, said:
In the 3 hours i have had it running no.
Funtionality as far as i can see so far, its Windows 7 with a flashy new desktop, that without some work is not end user friendly at all, you can plainly see that MS have tried to make it almost like a social network style of an OS, friends,videos,photos can all be uploaded, the in built messenger allows you to add not only MSN,yahoo etc but Facebook,Google+ all under one messenger service.
Funtionality as far as i can see so far, its Windows 7 with a flashy new desktop, that without some work is not end user friendly at all, you can plainly see that MS have tried to make it almost like a social network style of an OS, friends,videos,photos can all be uploaded, the in built messenger allows you to add not only MSN,yahoo etc but Facebook,Google+ all under one messenger service.
Niiiice, so now if hackers manage to hack one of your accounts, they get access to all of them........ They should leave the social networking to iPads, iPods, cellpones, and other such MOBILE devices.
Control Panel and Maintenance programs should stay in the same accessible place throughout their upgrades. I mean, really, what could possibly be the reason for moving them? Just to say, oh look, it different?
Last but not least, they really should slow these OS upgrades down. Programmers are having a hard enough time getting their programs caught up to run on WIN7. And as soon as a new program gets developed in one OS, it's obsolete by the time it hits the market. We don't want, nor need, a new OS every darn year!
OK, sorry, needed to vent.....thanks for hearing me out.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 06:47 AM
DV^McKenna, on 03 March 2012 - 03:34 AM, said:
you can plainly see that MS have tried to make it almost like a social network style of an OS,
When I saw videos of Windows 8 on Youtube I was like "Seriously? This is an operating system, not WinBook." I think the whole clickable icons on a desktop with your mouse idea is not broken and not in any need of innovation to replace it. Hell, we're only just now seeing BIOS get replaced with UEFI. I don't think the standard interface that has served the Windows platform for so well for so long is in any need of overhauling. I'd assume they have an option to allow you to go to... windows (desktop) classic, and I don't just mean the style of the borders on all your windows.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 07:14 AM
GaussDragon, on 03 March 2012 - 06:47 AM, said:
When I saw videos of Windows 8 on Youtube I was like "Seriously? This is an operating system, not WinBook." I think the whole clickable icons on a desktop with your mouse idea is not broken and not in any need of innovation to replace it. Hell, we're only just now seeing BIOS get replaced with UEFI. I don't think the standard interface that has served the Windows platform for so well for so long is in any need of overhauling. I'd assume they have an option to allow you to go to... windows (desktop) classic, and I don't just mean the style of the borders on all your windows.
The new flashy start menu can be minimized and you still have a standard desktop beneath it, as far as i can see you cant return the new features back to how they used to be, however....given the rest of the stuff i have been looking for is well hidden its probably burried somewhere that i just have not found it yet.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:05 AM
Theres now a Windows 8? I thought Windows 7 was the latest Windows out right now. Wow. Where have I been? Lol.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:17 AM
Mech Crusader 5000, on 04 March 2012 - 07:05 AM, said:
Theres now a Windows 8? I thought Windows 7 was the latest Windows out right now. Wow. Where have I been? Lol.
It's not out yet. Microsoft is doing a public beta simular to what they did with Windows 7.
Me personally, I'm very satisfied with 7. From what I've seen and heard about 8, I have no desire to upgrade to it. I just got my desktop back working again, so now I can put 8 on my laptop and actually try it out, but I don't see myself upgrading my desktop to 8.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:40 AM
Right couple more things, as you get used to it the new desktop is not too bad, definitely still user unfriendly and takes some work to get everything set up to how you like it, so you can eaisly find things.
Somethings of actual note though which are interesting, 2 fresh installs 7 and 8.
Windows 7 is using 1.7-2GBGb of Ram
Windows 8 is using 1.1--1.3GB of Ram
which is a bit of a saving, looking through the process and service lists it seems alot have been given the axe in windows 8, so looks to be far more streamlined, updates to come may change that.
Gaming, have come across no issues so far again leaning to the backbone of the OS is still Win7.
Have noticed a minimal FPS increase playing in Windows 8, talking 2-3FPS could be anything though so taking that with a pinch of salt atm.
Somethings of actual note though which are interesting, 2 fresh installs 7 and 8.
Windows 7 is using 1.7-2GBGb of Ram
Windows 8 is using 1.1--1.3GB of Ram
which is a bit of a saving, looking through the process and service lists it seems alot have been given the axe in windows 8, so looks to be far more streamlined, updates to come may change that.
Gaming, have come across no issues so far again leaning to the backbone of the OS is still Win7.
Have noticed a minimal FPS increase playing in Windows 8, talking 2-3FPS could be anything though so taking that with a pinch of salt atm.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 11:03 PM
Honestly, I'm going to be avoiding Windows 8.
Maybe I'm just too old to like change. But the menu system Just Works for me.
This is why I loathe the 2007 and 2010 Office suites as well.
They've removed well organized menus to hit every function in the program and hidden 95+% of the functionality behind idiotic, meaningless buttons and icons with no tool tips.
It's also why I'm quite unhappy with Vista/7 in some places. Simple keyboard shortcuts for things were completely broken in the newer interface.
Windows 8 is more of same here.
The worst part is, because I'm an IT guy, I'm going to be forced to learn about this pile of crap because I'm going to have to support clients who were stupid/ignorant and bought into this fiacso.
I'm also NOT enamored of the Tivo interface. I'm someone who likes to keep a clean desktop. Having to deal with this interface where all your app launchers have been belched out onto the desktop drives me nuts(er).
Maybe I'm just too old to like change. But the menu system Just Works for me.
This is why I loathe the 2007 and 2010 Office suites as well.
They've removed well organized menus to hit every function in the program and hidden 95+% of the functionality behind idiotic, meaningless buttons and icons with no tool tips.
It's also why I'm quite unhappy with Vista/7 in some places. Simple keyboard shortcuts for things were completely broken in the newer interface.
Windows 8 is more of same here.
The worst part is, because I'm an IT guy, I'm going to be forced to learn about this pile of crap because I'm going to have to support clients who were stupid/ignorant and bought into this fiacso.
I'm also NOT enamored of the Tivo interface. I'm someone who likes to keep a clean desktop. Having to deal with this interface where all your app launchers have been belched out onto the desktop drives me nuts(er).
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:04 AM
You know you can unpin all those app launchers right....it functions exactly like a normal desktop.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 04:49 AM
Barbaric Soul, on 04 March 2012 - 08:17 AM, said:
It's not out yet. Microsoft is doing a public beta simular to what they did with Windows 7.
Me personally, I'm very satisfied with 7. From what I've seen and heard about 8, I have no desire to upgrade to it. I just got my desktop back working again, so now I can put 8 on my laptop and actually try it out, but I don't see myself upgrading my desktop to 8.
Ok. I have Vista and I am perfectly fine with that for now. It still works pretty fine. When I upgrade, I'm probably just going to upgrade to 7.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 05:59 PM
DV^McKenna, on 04 March 2012 - 08:40 AM, said:
Somethings of actual note though which are interesting, 2 fresh installs 7 and 8.
Windows 7 is using 1.7-2GBGb of Ram
Windows 8 is using 1.1--1.3GB of Ram
which is a bit of a saving, looking through the process and service lists it seems alot have been given the axe in windows 8, so looks to be far more streamlined, updates to come may change that.
Remember, you are looking at a barebones OS with Win8. Beta Win7 also had a very small footprint. I remember installing Process Explorer and it had a very small list of running processes.
Edited by Tarl.Cabot, 05 March 2012 - 06:00 PM.
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 01:13 AM
Tarl.Cabot, on 05 March 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:
Remember, you are looking at a barebones OS with Win8. Beta Win7 also had a very small footprint. I remember installing Process Explorer and it had a very small list of running processes.
Correct but both the OS are barebone, both are fresh installs with 0 updates, theres not likely to be many more processes added to it and its hardly a small saving in ram, but we will see as the updates come round for it.
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