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[sts47]

GARY JOHNSON!

[Freeride Forever]

I don't follow US politics a whole lot, I don't see why it's even being mentioned here & I generally think voting is a difficult task to do intelligently because intelligent decisions are informed decisions & how often does anyone have accurate enough & complete enough information about any candidate or their motives/competence to make such a decision? In the US I don't suppose it matters because it seems so much of the population is so biblically brainwashed that it only matters how well a candidate at least pretends to be in love with Jesus or the imaginary force they call his father, to gain a vote. With what little observations I ever make to what the media says is going on, I've had the impression that Obama is not so good at covering up how religious he isn't. Or maybe just not Christian, however he has always seemed to be in favor of science, technology, progress & all the liberal flavor of things. If you're voting against Obama for reasons that I'm sure I know nothing about, then what other options do you have besides the "evil rich white Christian Republican teabaggers?" The Libertarian Party seems like an excellent choice, but it's always a battle between blue & red isn't it? The best options may be the ones no one knows about. Whether or not he's doing a good job is probably something Americans know as little about as anyone else. Sometimes things have to seem worse before they get better. Maybe it depends on the perspective you look at situations & trends from. Bush spent 8 years making one hell of a mess, lying to his people & the world to support invasions, to participate in them & in some cases to sacrifice themselves for them (with "God's blessing" of course). For what? Maybe there are things going on that only few people know about. I'm sure many of you like to think you know what's going on in their minds & in their offices but you don't. There's an awful lot of suspicious **** surrounding the time Bush spent in office & so much more that is so glaringly obvious that only the most die hard of religious apologists can ignore it. Maybe the same things that influenced Bush also influence Obama & would've influenced McCain as well (none of which are your so called "Almighty" by the way). It's usually easier to make a mess than to clean one up. So from where I'm sitting (thankfully not in the US) I wouldn't be too quick to blame someone for failing to clean up a mess in 4 years that their predecessor spent 8 years making or drastically worsening.

When it comes to campaigning, candidates have to strategize & honesty can mean a heavy loss, exaggeration or outright lies can mean the opposite (hence the source for the OPs satirical post). In the US, so much of the population has so routinely placed importance on things that are not only trivial, but none of their business. Why a candidate needs to state their personal opinion on what consenting adults do with each others buttholes behind closed doors or what kind of imaginary friends someone may have, is rooted in nothing more than utter stupidity (religion). If it actually matters who gets elected & since friends of an enemy can become an enemy, if Gary Johnson has no chance, then this Canadian hopes Obama gets in because those teabaggers really have a way of making the world hate everyone they represent. It has been stated that Democrats are ******* that allow themselves to be controlled or overruled by the same corrupted creatures making most of the messes in the first place. If that's true then it may be better that they don't get elected because it just paints a falsely negative picture. My position is that there are good & bad in every bunch, no matter how you discriminate, & a few public appearances & televised speeches aren't nearly enough to give anyone any idea which side any member of a bunch may be on.

Edited by Freeride Forever, 20 September 2012 - 07:01 PM.

[Absit invidia]

i'll vote for the guy that puts mech building in the defense budget.

[MegaMasher]

Anyone else notice Obama's biggest supporters in this thread are Canadian?

Hey, neighbors up north, if you guys like him, I say power to you, you can have him; after all, Americans have positive feelings towards our Canadian brothers, we will be glad to let you have him, as a gift.

Just, don't let him come back, ever.




Please.

Edited by MegaMasher, 20 September 2012 - 06:48 PM.

[Grey Sky]

MegaMasher, on 20 September 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

Anyone else notice Obama's biggest supporters in this thread are Canadian? Hey, neighbors up north, if you guys like him, I say power to you, you can have him; after all, Americans have positive feelings towards our Canadian brothers, we will be glad to let you have him, as a gift. Just, don't let him come back, ever.


Please.

We'll trade you Stephen Harper, our current Prime Minister. He's a little gutless, but he's conservative as all get-out, power-hungry, pro-war and staunchly Evangelist Christian. Just don't let him get at the blood of a high-born virgin; you don't want to know what happens then...

[Evil Hamster]

ObamaSocialist, on 20 September 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

I have always been a revolutionary socialist and borderline Marxist, so needless to say, when I heard one of our guys (Barack Hussein Obama) would be running for president, I jumped with glee. I thought he wouldn't have a chance in hell of being elected, as I always viewed elections in capitalist America to be rigged by the evil rich white Christian Republican teabaggers.

What made Obama's election in a rigged capitalist imperialist hellhole like America possible? I ran this question through my mind countless times, and I have come to the same conclusion that most other people have; white guilt. White guilt played the greatest role in Obama's election, that and selling the message of socialism. Yes, the people heard "hope and change" and they voted for it, they voted for a democratic socialist.

Now I used to hold democratic socialists with contempt, being a revvy myself, but Obama has changed my view in that respect. Perhaps the best way to instate a socialist workers' utopia is not through a revolution, but from working within the system, as Obama and the Democrat Party is doing. It seems to have worked for Europe, where capitalism is just another chapter in the history books. Obama has inspired me to be abandon my militant tendencies in favor of democratic socialist reforms.

Obama's first term was marked with so much gushy socialist goodness that I cannot wait to until November to spread my thick, warm, creamy lovesauce all over the ballot, as I vote for our great leader, Comrade Hussein. I really want to donate to Comrade Hussein's campaign, but I refuse to get a job (thus supporting the evil capitalist system), and sadly his campaign does not accept food stamps (believe me, I tried).

I cannot wait to see the day Obama is elected to his second term, with many more to come once we abolish term limits. Obama and his loyal OcCuPy army (myself included) will bring a new golden age to America and the world and the streets will run red with Christian blood. Obama will personally rip out and eat the still-beating heart of Rush Limbaugh, and the working class shall reign supreme. To take a note from history's great socialists, like Joseph Stalin and Adolf ******, we shall take away the guns of the right-wingers and ban Bibles throughout the newfound United Socialist States of America, and all women shall be required to get abortions. The day of reckoning is coming, you right-wing capitalist pigs! Be afraid, be very afraid!

Foreward

[Joanna Conners]

MegaMasher, on 20 September 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

Anyone else notice Obama's biggest supporters in this thread are Canadian?

Hey, neighbors up north, if you guys like him, I say power to you, you can have him; after all, Americans have positive feelings towards our Canadian brothers, we will be glad to let you have him, as a gift.

Just, don't let him come back, ever.




Please.

Fine, but you've got to keep Justin Bieber. Fair's fair.

[Ghogiel]

The Rep party is the butt end of the OP's sarcasm.

[_Comrade_]

I found the campagins to be quite annoying, all the mudslinging and name calling. It's one of the reasons why i got out of politics after getting my BA in polly sci. People just get to emotional and heated over things. Im now in the IT business but i haven't ruled out a run for local government yet

Don't listen to any of what is on TV, it's just hogwash finaced by wealthy donars on both sides. Just vote on the guy who most represents your values. Myself i believe in environment protection (i like to whitewater raft), Stem cell research and science. So my preference usually goes towards the Democrats. A lot of my military friends love guns, have faith in christainity and hate taxes....they like to vote republican and i have no problem with that even though im a dem

Edited by Grimwill, 20 September 2012 - 07:13 PM.

[Freeride Forever]

Assassinsf, on 20 September 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Yes this is no place for politics.

This is in the "Off Topic" forum.

MegaMasher, on 20 September 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

Anyone else notice Obama's biggest supporters in this thread are Canadian?

Hey, neighbors up north, if you guys like him, I say power to you, you can have him; after all, Americans have positive feelings towards our Canadian brothers, we will be glad to let you have him, as a gift.

Just, don't let him come back, ever.

Please.

Well looks like GreySky beat me to my response to that. Thanks for saving me some typing Grey. Good observation MM. I'd be interested to know why you suppose this seems to be the case & also, would you find the trade that Grey suggested (& that I was going to) to be agreeable? Not that Americans pay anywhere near as much attention to our politics as we do to theirs. It is after all a fact that whatever you guys are doing, substantially affects what we're doing, unfortunately.

Grimwill, on 20 September 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

I found the campagins to be quite annoying, all the mudslinging and name calling. It's one of the reasons why i got out of politics after getting my BA in polly sci. People just get to emotional and heated over things. Im now in the IT business but i haven't ruled out a run for local government yet

Don't listen to any of what is on TV, it's just hogwash finaced by wealthy donars on both sides. Just vote on the guy who most represents your values. Myself i believe in environment protection (i like to whitewater raft), Stem cell research and science. So my preference usually goes towards the Democrats. A lot of my military friends love guns, have faith in christainity and hate taxes....they like to vote republican and i have no problem with that even though im a dem

Religiously motivated, gun loving political puppets are a scary thing, but like I said in a previous post, good & bad in every bunch.

Edited by Freeride Forever, 20 September 2012 - 07:29 PM.

[Hyzoran]

If I could vote, I would vote for Obama simply because I believe we are better off with him than Mitt Romney, however in the long run it doesn't matter, as most Democrat/Republican Nominees are nominated because the respective parties believe that canidate will serve their interests of personal greed more than the other canidates. Republicans and Democrats are just competing corporations in all actuality. You will never get a president that actually wants to do the job of president because the parties will never nominate them, and if you are not nominated, you automatically don't win.

Edited by Hyzoran, 20 September 2012 - 07:19 PM.

[Damon Howe]

+1 to OP for posting this and just letting it ride without posting again (yet anyways).

[Aresye]

I think any presidential nominee should be required to have spent at least a basic term (4 years) in one of the military branches. If you have the power to send the military to war, and govern how they get paid, the very least you could do is know how it works.

Also, enough of this democrat vs republican garbage. If there's one thing that keeps putting terrible people in office, it's the fact that people align to party, vs a candidate's actual values.

Considering the majority of people will vote for whichever candidate represents their party, in the end all the candidates in the middle will never get elected, despite the fact some of them may actually be the best choice for the country as a whole.

Americans should point the fingers at themselves, for blindly following their party and helping drive the country into the ground.

[Catamount]

Nothing more fun than watching a troll stir up the fundamentalist religious right. Barring something unexpected being said, I think I'll leave this one alone and go back to watching Mitt make an *** of himself several times a week, while Obama sails through the polls (on average) week after week with a desperate GOP's only response being to summon old men to yell at chairs.

[Banekane]

I vote Prince Edward to the presidency of america

* Seriously *

not to trolol or be funny the British empire is far better off than america is at this moment it is a pivitol time for americans wanting to support the next or possible president but please keep it out of our game industry if i wanted polotics i would have stayed with the game Face of Mankind

i to be honest can say im not voting as both candidates are not worth the ink on the ballot yeah i voted obama the first time and agree he tried but Romney is not the guy to take his place and Obama cant get things done i already foresee trouble*Sorry couldn't hold that back politics are bad*
anyway lets enjoy the rise of FedCom

Edited by Banekane, 20 September 2012 - 09:06 PM.

[Stalephreak]

As somebody who realizes that we're not really as free as the right thinks we are (Obama removing right to due process...)...I can't say I'd honestly support either. Mitt's been caught breaking laws just in his IRAs alone. Obama...well, like I said, due process... This is like trusting Hugh Hefner to be the keeper of the vestial virgins. Top it off with knowledge that your vote really doesn't matter (nobody said your representatives have to go with the popular vote. You can vote them out of office, but that's ex post facto, after the fact), and it's a great bit WTF. The system is set up to keep those in power, in power. I'm voting for Zaphod Beeblebrox

[Amikal]

Aresye, on 20 September 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:

I think any presidential nominee should be required to have spent at least a basic term (4 years) in one of the military branches. If you have the power to send the military to war, and govern how they get paid, the very least you could do is know how it works.

What about other critical responsibilities PotUS has? Should he/she also have 4 years of Wall Street experience to understand economies? And 4 years working as a doctor to understand healthcare? And 4 years working as a geologist to understand fossil fuels? And 4 years of assembling cars to understand the working class? Yada yada...

There are simply too many topics for any president to have direct experience with. That's why they rely on advisers and cabinet members, like the Joint Chiefs, Department heads, etc to synthesize information and recommend course of action/policy.

[Banekane]

Amikal, on 20 September 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:

What about other critical responsibilities PotUS has? Should he/she also have 4 years of Wall Street experience to understand economies? And 4 years working as a doctor to understand healthcare? And 4 years working as a geologist to understand fossil fuels? And 4 years of assembling cars to understand the working class? Yada yada...

There are simply too many topics for any president to have direct experience with. That's why they rely on advisers and cabinet members, like the Joint Chiefs, Department heads, etc to synthesize information and recommend course of action/policy.

fire them all and start fresh we can do that right it is in our constitution oh wait oops they removed it since the civil war happened

[Sainamu]

Just to put another stab in Obama, there have been multiple attacks on US embassies, including the public assassination of several of our ambassadors, which is a Declaration of War. And Obama is sitting idly by not meeting with any of the leaders, or taking any action towards these foreign countries because he is, and I quote, 'too busy to leave the country' from the re-election. I believe that Obama sucks at foreign politics.

[Aresye]

Sainamu, on 20 September 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

Just to put another stab in Obama, there have been multiple attacks on US embassies, including the public assassination of several of our ambassadors, which is a Declaration of War. And Obama is sitting idly by not meeting with any of the leaders, or taking any action towards these foreign countries because he is, and I quote, 'too busy to leave the country' from the re-election. I believe that Obama sucks at foreign politics.

We can't afford another war.