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[Brolier]

Cured pork and red wine? That sound's lovely! 9mm 1950? That sounds lovely, too. You guys really know how to kick back!

[Firefly]

Zack Delphirian, on 22 July 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

Maybe next I'll tell you about the french LMG that shoots all by itself (and that one is in service in Afghanistan ffs)

How do you like the FAMAS? When I was stationed in Bosnia I was privileged to know some French paratroopers and I got to fire the FAMAS for a little while. It was awesome, I thought. They got a kick out of me twirling my 9mm pistol like a cowboy.

[Graives]

lol Firefly, nice story. I'll be honest, I'd be too scared to twirl a real pistol with live ammo in it.

[Zack Delphirian]

Firefly, on 23 July 2012 - 05:57 AM, said:

How do you like the FAMAS? When I was stationed in Bosnia I was privileged to know some French paratroopers and I got to fire the FAMAS for a little while. It was awesome, I thought. They got a kick out of me twirling my 9mm pistol like a cowboy.

It has good sides and bad sides. But overall, for such an old weapon, it's still in excellent shape ! I can only imagine how modern and revolutionary it was when it came out...

On the cons side it's not customizable at all, so for the little guys like myself, it's extremely long and takes a while to get used to the handling. Plus you can't put ACOG or any other stuff if you don't screw in an extremely heavy device on it first. It's quite fragile, like if you dive in mud (which we do) and don't clean it before going to "bed" (durt hole would be a better description), you can be pretty sure that the next day you'll have a bunch of firing incidents...
Anther problem, which is one for every bull-pup design, is that the ejection chamber is right next to your hears, that can be troubling and you need ear plugs all the time.

On the plus sides, and it's a big one, it's FREAKIN' ACCURATE AS HELL !! Bull-pup means long canon, and boy it's accurate. Without any scope, just with the metallic sights, you can land shots at 400m (437 yards) with ease, 600m with scopes and more if you're good. Of course it never appens in combat, but it's still impressive I think. And the kick is well managed so at long distances you can easily stay sharp.
Plus side again, it's ambidextrious with just a minor modification that any soldier can do in about one minute.
On the personnal plus side, I'd say it's a good thing that it's highly recognisable. On the first glance you can see what it is, and it's cool ^^

That's all I remember right now...
I won't talk about the new model which came out with the FELIN system, because I think it's a total rip off...

[NEWater]

Ah yes, the joy of bullpup rifles.

I had a SAR21 when I was an unwilling conscript in the Singapore Armed Forces. It was a great weapon: perfectly balanced, accurate as heck, and it won't ever jam or quit on you even if it's full of mud or water. My only complaint about it is just how bloody difficult it is to clean the damn thing. All of the important internals are hidden at the back of the weapon and I have to reach into every damned corner and crevice.

It takes twice as long as a regular M16 to clean, but the positives are well worth it.

[Firefly]

Graives, on 23 July 2012 - 07:55 AM, said:

lol Firefly, nice story. I'll be honest, I'd be too scared to twirl a real pistol with live ammo in it.

In this particular instance I did not have a loaded magazine in the pistol. There was a magazine, but it was empty. The weapon wasn't cocked. It was also on safe. And finally, I happened to perform this little trick with my finger behind the trigger instead of on it.

[MasterNinja62]

Firefly, on 23 July 2012 - 11:28 AM, said:

In this particular instance I did not have a loaded magazine in the pistol. There was a magazine, but it was empty. The weapon wasn't cocked. It was also on safe. And finally, I happened to perform this little trick with my finger behind the trigger instead of on it.

Safety first

#Master 62

[Firefly]

MasterNinja62, on 23 July 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

Safety first

Well, it's definitely not "proper military handling of a weapon". I like to think that because I've spent upwards of thirty years around weapons, to include teaching weapons safety and running shooting ranges, that I can bend the occasional rule now and again when proper precautions are taken. Because my weapon never left my side the entire time I was deployed, and had never had an ammo-filled magazine inserted, yet was cleaned twice a week for no reason other than boredom, that I was pretty much as safe as I could be.

The French guys invited me to eat in their chow hall. Brutha, you ain't eaten like a king until you've eaten in a French chowhall after suffering MREs. Those dudes have little wine-filled juiceboxes. The food was outstanding. And I learned this all because I spun my pistol like a cowboy.

[Seraii]

Boxwine: Not just for poor housewives.

[Wolfclaw]

You guys wanna share some members? xD

Looks like you are good to go already....

[Yuba Frank]

Boxed wine is quite high end...well, as in good wine in the box anyway. Black Box is my favorite boxed wine right now when I'm looking for an inexpensive 3L box of a good red for a party. I have a friend who, when he comes over and sees my stocked wine rack, proceeds to attempt to empty said rack. That's when I learned about the inexpensive boxed wine that is actually pretty good. I put that out when he comes over now and keep the nice bottled wines for special occasions...like when I come home from the charcuterie with a bag of goodies. Which brings up last weekend...I took a salumi making class at that charcuterie and ate like a king the whole time. Ended up coming home with a pound of cured pork loin, which puts any proscuitto I've ever had down a notch, a porchetta which is a pork skin and fat wrapped boned leg roast, pork jowl bacon, a few links of hunter's sausage I made during the class, which should be ready to eat in 12 days, and other tasty pork products. I have to go by the store on the way home tonight to get a nice bottle that will go with the pork loin...

[Firefly]

Yuba Frank, on 23 July 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:

Boxed wine is quite high end...well, as in good wine in the box anyway. Black Box is my favorite boxed wine right now when I'm looking for an inexpensive 3L box of a good red for a party. I have a friend who, when he comes over and sees my stocked wine rack, proceeds to attempt to empty said rack. That's when I learned about the inexpensive boxed wine that is actually pretty good. I put that out when he comes over now and keep the nice bottled wines for special occasions...like when I come home from the charcuterie with a bag of goodies. Which brings up last weekend...I took a salumi making class at that charcuterie and ate like a king the whole time. Ended up coming home with a pound of cured pork loin, which puts any proscuitto I've ever had down a notch, a porchetta which is a pork skin and fat wrapped boned leg roast, pork jowl bacon, a few links of hunter's sausage I made during the class, which should be ready to eat in 12 days, and other tasty pork products. I have to go by the store on the way home tonight to get a nice bottle that will go with the pork loin...

Man I swear, next time I'm in your neck of the woods I'm eating at your place.

[Zack Delphirian]

Thanks a lot Yuba, now I'm hungry as hell ! And it's 1 AM here (France), so I can't really get the saucisson, can I. I hope you're happy, I'm going to sleep frustrated now .

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The French guys invited me to eat in their chow hall. Brutha, you ain't eaten like a king until you've eaten in a French chowhall after suffering MREs. Those dudes have little wine-filled juiceboxes. The food was outstanding. And I learned this all because I spun my pistol like a cowboy.

Ha ha ! I'm so proud right now.
But yeah, France has been waging war for a lot of centuries now, and if there is one thing we hate, it's to fight with an empty stomach damnit !


I hope we'll be able to have boxed wine in our cockpits, that would be awesome !

[Yuba Frank]

Firefly, on 23 July 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

Man I swear, next time I'm in your neck of the woods I'm eating at your place.

Just give some warning so I can get over to Napa and stock up! I go to the Fatted Calf at the Oxbow Public Market. Yes, you can google and drool on your keyboard.

I also have wild boar in the freezer that I can throw on the smoker...

[Firefly]

It's a good thing you live on the opposite side of the US. Because I'd invite you to our bi-annual ***-kicking over at West Point Military Academy and have you give Resident BWC Chef Oikirv a run for his money. And then I'd get very fat.

[TrashcanDan]

Wine and waffles comrade

[Graives]

*drool* Yuba, I think I'm gonna make you my new bestest best friend. And I imagine I wont be the only one, lol.

[Guido]

Lol, they always jump for the food!

I'm sure there's something you underappreciate because it's common where you are that Yuba would kill for.

Yuba, which winery do you usually buy from in Napa?

Edited by Guido, 23 July 2012 - 06:27 PM.

[Graives]

Firefly, on 23 July 2012 - 11:28 AM, said:

In this particular instance I did not have a loaded magazine in the pistol. There was a magazine, but it was empty. The weapon wasn't cocked. It was also on safe. And finally, I happened to perform this little trick with my finger behind the trigger instead of on it.

It's all gud! But yeah I can see that then. Much safer than what I had imagined. XD

[Yuba Frank]

And that's a true statement Guido! Every region is famous for something and I, for one, will always try something at least once! I don't usually go over to Napa just to buy wine. The Fatted Calf is my only reason for going there. That said I like V. Sattui, Berringer, Rutherford Grove, Cuvieson or Mumms for champange. Napa wines are available from any Raley's or Safeway and the good thing about that is they have a "six-pack" deal where you buy six bottles and get 10% off.

Right now I buy alot of Alexander Valley and Yorkville appellation wines. Mostly because that's where I hunt pigs and I know of the good growers in the area. So I like to drink their wines with the pork I shoot from those areas...just seems right. There are sooo many good wine growing regions in this area of California. If you ever find a Marietta Vineyards wine buy it; especially the Old Vine Red. And any red with the Alexander Valley label is very good too. They are grown on Passalaqua Vineyards. One of my (many) favorities is the SImi Cabernet. Less expensive but still very good are any of the Cline reds.

Firefly...there is this service available...it's called commercial aircraft. Not saying I'd do it any time soon since I already took vacation this year...but I smoke a very awesome pork shoulder, baby back ribs, beef brisket, tri tips...and grill a mean medium rare 2" rib eye. I am fully capable of grilling/smoking complete meals on any apparatus...but I prefer hardwood and hardwood charcoal.

Sooo...on the subject of food...tonight's dinner was brussel sprouts pan fried (in a cast iron skillet) with pork jowl bacon, olive oil, garlic, red bell pepper and zuchinni, served with cured pork loin, manchego cheese, and garlic stuffed olives. Accompanied by a 2011 Alamos Malbec from Catena Vineyards in Argentina. Ah jeez...I'm really not such a snob...but I do love good food and good wine!