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[Firefly]

I also sent you the link via PM.

[Curon Hifor]

Short-notice, but we've got a trial of position coming up for one of our Lance leader positions. Hope to see a few competitors for the position!

[Guido]

Definitely hope to see some players trying out for the position.

It'll be during our normal training time, so we'll just swing into it from training.

[Trireaper]

Whoot moar explosions!!

[Hammer07]

Complying with Hifor (S-1)....Hammer07 aka "Top" reporting for duty.

[Firefly]

I reported for a doodie this morning.

[Curon Hifor]

Firefly, on 07 June 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

I reported for a doodie this morning.

XD

Of course you did.

At any rate, glad to have you aboard, "Top"!

[Majesteria]

Reporting for duty

[Firefly]

If anyone's wondering why we call him Top, go call him "buck sarnt" and see what happens.

Go on.

I dare ya!

[Psycho Tick]

I want to, but I am afraid as well. I wish I understood more about that military world.

[Firefly]

In the Army, "First Sergeant" is the appropriate term of address for someone of that rank. Sergeant (E5), Staff Sergeant (E6), Sergeant First Class (E7) and even Master Sergeant (E8) can be addressed as "Sergeant" when you're talking to them. You do that with a First Sergeant, and you can consider yourself fortunate if he ONLY corrects you on the proper way to address him.

If you're on good terms and the 1SG isn't a by-the-book senior NCO, you may consider yourself equally fortunate if he/she allows you to call them Top. Other nicknames which are usually not abbreviated forms of address are: Top Kick, First Shirt, Top Sergeant. I may have also heard First Kick and Top Shirt, but it's not fresh in my mind.

[Psycho Tick]

Oh I see.
Oh, I understand now.

[Chromoid]

Firefly, on 08 June 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

*Firefly's Guide to Army Rankings*

That's pretty interesting. Now, does it differ in the Marines/Navy/Airforce? (actually, I'm pretty sure lots of things are different in the AF)
Incidentally, I've got a friend who's just started BASIC. He's angling to be a SEAL, though I haven't heard many encouraging stories about kids who try to go from street to SEALs.

[Curon Hifor]

Every single 1SG I served under always preferred to be called 'Top', as if being called "First Sergeant" just reminded them of how old they were.

[Morgen Black]

Firefly, on 08 June 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

In the Army, "First Sergeant" is the appropriate term of address for someone of that rank. Sergeant (E5), Staff Sergeant (E6), Sergeant First Class (E7) and even Master Sergeant (E8) can be addressed as "Sergeant" when you're talking to them. You do that with a First Sergeant, and you can consider yourself fortunate if he ONLY corrects you on the proper way to address him.

If you're on good terms and the 1SG isn't a by-the-book senior NCO, you may consider yourself equally fortunate if he/she allows you to call them Top. Other nicknames which are usually not abbreviated forms of address are: Top Kick, First Shirt, Top Sergeant. I may have also heard First Kick and Top Shirt, but it's not fresh in my mind.

No, no, no. You trying calling a SSgt or GySgt in the U.S. Marine Corps a sergeant and you might find yourself in a world of hurt. That is how the Army does it but dont mistake that for all services.

MB

[Guido]

Chromoid, on 08 June 2012 - 01:06 PM, said:

That's pretty interesting. Now, does it differ in the Marines/Navy/Airforce? (actually, I'm pretty sure lots of things are different in the AF)
Incidentally, I've got a friend who's just started BASIC. He's angling to be a SEAL, though I haven't heard many encouraging stories about kids who try to go from street to SEALs.

There aren't any Sergeants in the Navy. The same paygrade would be Petty Officer Second Class (E-5), Petty Officer First Class (E-6), Chief Petty Officer (E-7), Senior Chief Petty Officer (E-8), and Master Chief Petty Officer (E-9). Normally sailors don't use titles instead of last names unless you're in bootcamp or talking to an E-7 or higher. Then it's "Chief", "Senior", and "Master Chief".

As far as your friend angling to be a SEAL, good luck to him. The motto everyone's been quoting, "Damn Few", after seeing that Act of Valor, is one of the SEAL mottoes, but is also one not enough people truly understands.

I knew one of the seal squads from Coronado Base that on a whim, decided to do the Iron Man Triathlon at the Hawaiian islands for S&G. Without any extra conditioning for the Triathlon, they managed to stick together for the whole thing and still finished in the top 5 percent.True story.

[Firefly]

I had some SEALs in my class at Airborne, and I had some in my class at DLI. In fact, as it turned out when I got my Sergeant stripes, I had a Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) pin on my rank. He deliberately pinned it on upside down to mess with me and my commander. My CO just kinda stood there and looked at it, then at the SEAL Chief, then at me. Guy says, "Well, he's a chief and a SEAL... *YOU* fix it, Sarnt." Then the chief, in what is probably a violation of UCMJ, decided to give me blood rank. I still have the scars. I bear them proudly.

Everyone's pretty much already covered the other services, except the Air Force. Air Force NCOs, the junior-type NCOs, are called Sergeant. Some people I guess use the full name like Tech Sergeant. Then there are like Chief Master Sergeants, which - the two I ever met - preferred to be called Chief. The Air Force has Master Sergeants and Senior Master Sergeants, and the ones I knew went by their first name or didn't bat an eye when called Sergeant [name].

[Feroce]

Firefly, on 09 June 2012 - 09:02 AM, said:

Then the chief, in what is probably a violation of UCMJ, decided to give me blood rank. I still have the scars. I bear them proudly.

Blood rank being, what? Where they beat your rank badge and leave a mark on you?

[Firefly]

More or less. They take the dammits off the back and grind it in there. My rank happened to be sitting on my collarbone, which made it especially "pleasant".

[Chromoid]

Guido, on 08 June 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

There aren't any Sergeants in the Navy. The same paygrade would be Petty Officer Second Class (E-5), Petty Officer First Class (E-6), Chief Petty Officer (E-7), Senior Chief Petty Officer (E-8), and Master Chief Petty Officer (E-9). Normally sailors don't use titles instead of last names unless you're in bootcamp or talking to an E-7 or higher. Then it's "Chief", "Senior", and "Master Chief".

As far as your friend angling to be a SEAL, good luck to him. The motto everyone's been quoting, "Damn Few", after seeing that Act of Valor, is one of the SEAL mottoes, but is also one not enough people truly understands.

I knew one of the seal squads from Coronado Base that on a whim, decided to do the Iron Man Triathlon at the Hawaiian islands for S&G. Without any extra conditioning for the Triathlon, they managed to stick together for the whole thing and still finished in the top 5 percent.True story.

I don't doubt it. Those guys are insanely strong.