51 replies to this topic

[HUEY350]

After watching the game play video like 10 times. It came to my mind when I saw the Mechs arm blown off. In the event of losing all your weapons and your still alive with no ability to attack. I think it would be cool to have like a self destruct button. so when you have no other option you charge into the other Mech blowing yourself up and damaging the other Mech.


Do you like the idea? or do I just like blowing S**t up.

[wwiiogre]

no, unless you have to buy your mech again and start your pilot career over cause you just lost all of your xp when that pilot died.

if you have to pay a price for stupidity then I don't mind, but to grief others cause you can't pilot your mech or shoot, why should you be rewarded for failure?

chris

[Orzorn]

Self destructing in Battletech was a process that took a lot of effort and work from the mechwarrior. You had to undo several protection blocks and set things up just right. It isn't quite a one button action.

Regardless, its a bad idea anyways. People would suicide as soon as they were about to die. I've played games where stuff like this was possible, and it was always the same way. People bind the self destruct key to a very accessible place and they never fail to hit it. Its very boring and very annoying.

[wwiiogre]

I don't mind the suicide and self destruct of your mech, but it should be exactly that, your mech is totally destroyed and must be replaced and your pilot xp is gone and wiped cause you suicided. The mech warrior universe has always been about keeping pilots alive and should remain about that instead of griefers trying to make others pay for their poor play.

chris

[HUEY350]

wwiiogre, on 09 March 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

I don't mind the suicide and self destruct of your mech, but it should be exactly that, your mech is totally destroyed and must be replaced and your pilot xp is gone and wiped cause you suicided. The mech warrior universe has always been about keeping pilots alive and should remain about that instead of griefers trying to make others pay for their poor play.

chris

that would be the outcome. I like the way you stated it

[TheRulesLawyer]

It should be a DC only option. You have been dis-armered. Commit seppuku?

[Morgana]

And what would be the point. There is no respawn like in BF. Once you've committed suicide, your gaming experience is over. You get to sit there and watch the rest of the match. Personally, I'd rather be playing

[Ragotag]

wwiiogre, on 09 March 2012 - 02:29 PM, said:

... [only] unless you have to buy your mech again and start your pilot career over cause you just lost all of your xp when that pilot died. If you have to pay a price for stupidity then I don't mind, but to grief others cause you can't pilot your mech or shoot, why should you be rewarded for failure?

Sounds totally reasonable to me, only it will not deter the hardcore griefer; they'll still do it.

[osito]

If your mech is damaged you should retreat. The devs have said that the cost of repairs will depend on the damage of your mech. If you constantly destroy your mech you may end up not being able to afford a full rebuild of your mech. They should have a extraction point in the game. If your mech is to damaged and you get it to a certain point you are safe and your mech wont cost you alot to repair.

[Volume]

How about you just mount weapons on the torso so you can still fight even when the arms are blown off?

Or at least try to draw fire for your teammates, or scout and relay information, or spot enemies. A 'mech is still a 'mech, even without weapons., especially if it's quick or has ECM or BAP or a command console or something.

If there's a way to set your reactor to core in like 7 seconds, and then have you eject, it could be a pretty cool looking experience (like the end of the MW:3015 trailer).

Either way, I don't think kamikaze would work within the design framework that the game currently has.

[autogyro]

You can still scout, and transmit information, or command, or whatever the case is. Charge the enemy, DFA them, whatever. I don't really want a self-destruct button, maybe an eject button so you can 'quit' the game.

[MechPilot]

I would LOVE to have a little scout mech that can go "chernobyl" as a Last resort option. I would stand at the ankles of an Atlas. Yell my battle cry of "SQUEEE!" then accidenitaly all over the map lmao.

[Ragotag]

osito, on 09 March 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

They should have a extraction point in the game. If your mech is to damaged and you get it to a certain point you are safe and your mech wont cost you alot to repair.

Interesting idea. I would hope that the *only* benefit to a retreat/extraction point would be that you suffer no more damage, thereby fixing the cost to repair verses offering some kind of benefit like reducing repair costs.

Edited by Ragotag, 09 March 2012 - 05:43 PM.

[wwiiogre]

I doubt getting to extraction will reduce costs, but it will ensure you don't get damaged any more thereby increasing your repair costs.

chris

[Bonewalker]

Having been the target of such a tactic, I've lost many a game mech to it and it's severely irritating. Why not just punch out and get it over with. Either that or surrender the combat.

Either way, both tactics would give you the opportunity to salvage your mech instead of completely destroying it and your opponent.

[wwiiogre]

well of course they want to damage you bonewalker if it means they suffer no penalty for their actions, I hope the dev's do not allow this or if they do the penalty is severe, mech is destroyed and pilot is lost with all experience and pilot track. If they do that, then I don't mind so much. Especially if the Dev's only make the surrounding mechs not severely damaged or killed. The real killers in my TT experience were the ammo explosions. With the new level three rules for TT fusion explosions are so rare we havn't seen any yet and almost no ammo explosions.

chris

[Bonewalker]

LOL, I don't mind really. I've never done the tabletop version. I've been playing with the Battletech Firestorm pods. I think the good humor tactic was having one of our pilots use his jump jets to go up.. then land on a Mech's cockpit.

I'm going to be glad that I don't get zapped with that part. Which makes me all the more antsy to get in the game.

[Maurice]

no you play to win or get out of the pice of junk befor it kills you

[Siilk]

Orzorn, on 09 March 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

Self destructing in Battletech was a process that took a lot of effort and work from the mechwarrior. You had to undo several protection blocks and set things up just right. It isn't quite a one button action.

Regardless, its a bad idea anyways. People would suicide as soon as they were about to die. I've played games where stuff like this was possible, and it was always the same way. People bind the self destruct key to a very accessible place and they never fail to hit it. Its very boring and very annoying.

^This.

[Kyle Dragon Kurita]

Do it how the clans do it. Every part or piece of a mech is considered important due to their Dropship weight limits. So wasting a mech even though it cannot fight is to be considered taboo. Every mech even incredibly decimated should still be repairable. So if you're in a fight and cannot fight, then run and go get some help from techs. If not hit the eject button and let someone else salvage your mech for parts.