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[Reginald Rawlins]

I've been mostly a sideline individual in the Mechwarrior community at large but I've been around enough to know how seriously individuals that actually belong to one of the Clans often take their online identities, and I think it's pretty cool.

That being said, it seems a bit out-of-place to see people calling out trials and challenges in MWO all-chat in a purely IS setting with purely IS 'mechs in a setting in which they know it will not be honored, and I have seen it happen fairly frequently, as well as players using almost exclusively Clanner jargon when speaking in the game.

I'm interested to get the perspective of several different Clan players on what their thoughts are on the authenticity of doing this (and recognize there aren't any better options ATM)--really, I'm just interested as to whether or not there are "purist" Clanners that won't be doing any sort of Clan activity in MWO until the invasion.

[Pariah Devalis]

From a purely RP perspective, the clan jargon is a use it or lose it thing. It is easier to use if you make a habit of using it, and not using contractions is surprisingly difficult, given how they are used constantly in normal conversation in reality.

As for the honor system, myself and, I would imagine, others simply feel like it makes the game a greater test of individual pilot skill. Two pilots, mano y mano. Nothing deciding the victor except skill and a dash of luck. Plus, I would like to think that part of the fun in the mechwarrior community is the hard fought battle. The challenge.

There is none when you have someone being focus fired upon by four mechs. The reverse of which, it is no fun at all to be pounded into by half the enemy team. Zellbrigen, unfortunately, gets tossed out the window due to necessity in MWO most of the time, but I accept all challenges for single combat and, even, have walked out in front of friendly fire to shield an enemy battlemech whose pilot shut down and capitulated surrender in chat. No honor in killing a defeated foe, after all.

[Colddawg]

Like Priah said, it is all about the challenge and the honor of taking down multiple enemies by yourself. In game it appears that the players who make the canon style 'Mech builds are the ones who will be sticking to any/all RP rules. Keeping in practice is a must for this kind of RP. There are so many aspects of it that must be followed including, yes, the speech.

Personally, surat, I prefer my battles to be at least 2 on 1 against so that I may stay in top form for when the Clans finally come to free the Inner Sphere from its corrupt decadence.

[Literally]

The Following is OOC (Out Of Character):

This is very similar to my ingame problem, brought on by the fact that I at all times roleplay as an 18th century dandy (1726 to be exact) of English citizenship, though of German-Dutch descent. My particular character is part of an early steampunk society of elite technical savants and is the inventor of the first functional time-travel device. However, due to the fact that the occurrence of heavy-water isotopes in the future (read: 'present' in Mechwarrior) is lower due to decay, he fights to amass the wealth necessary to conduct the search for the necessary quantity amount of heavy water.
Due to his superior dueling skill and understanding of the true natures of honorable society of course, he is at a considerable advantage in the uncouth and low-honor environment of the planetes celestius ptolemaies (the correct name for the inner sphere).

Of course in-game this means I am often presented with the challenge of having to deal with the average no-honor planetes celestius ptolemaies player. Unlike your challenge, however, I do not have the occasional unfair advantage of being "backed up" by other "clanner" role-players. Seeing as my character^tm is completely unique.

[Damion Wolf]

I think I saw that guy in a Solaris fight. He was from the Lyran Alliance.

[Cato Phoenix]

I think there is a bit lacking the 'suspension of disbelief' that you need to really be RPing, despite the timeline and news flashes. What I mean is that- it is open beta. We realize it is not suitable to RPing clanners totally, but then again our games are us capturing a base- sort of outside the real spectra. Not really community warfare or planet control or whatever.

So I think for a lot of clanners it is just fun to still present themselves as such in the open beta, to signify what sort of role they play.

I know for Clan Jade Falcon, once the community warfare rolls out we will transistion into the pirate-for-the-clan unit the Red Corsairs- but we will still be using clanspeak. Basically we will RP being really bad pirates, because clanners do not understand the concept of actual piracy (salvage, etc).

[Pariah Devalis]

That... is actually a pretty hilarious RP theme, Phoenix. XD

[Cato Phoenix]

Pariah Devalis, on 19 December 2012 - 01:31 PM, said:

That... is actually a pretty hilarious RP theme, Phoenix. XD

I know.

"What are we supposed to do now the freebirths are dead, Star Commander? We are supposed to loot something, quiaff?"

"Aff, Cadet. Tactical reports indicate Inner Sphere pirates are obsessed with the collection of booty."

*shocked look* "Does that mean what...what I think it means, sir?"

*grim* "I am afraid so, Cadet."

Edited by Cato Phoenix, 19 December 2012 - 06:10 PM.

[Aresye]

I feel there are times to RP, and times to not RP.

In-game, if I can get an actual 1on1 with somebody, and have it be honored by other players, then it's a lot of fun. On the other hand, if it doesn't get honored, I'm not going to flip out in chat, or rage on the forums.

I find RP works best with structure, organization, and game tactics.

I find RP works the least with language, personality, and out of game character. I don't want a teammate who ends up getting himself killed with the chat box open because he found a contraction to fix before resuming to play.

[KEMikos]

Cato Phoenix, on 19 December 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:

I know.

"What are we supposed to do now the freebirths are dead, Star Commander? We are supposed to loot something, quiaff?"

"Aff, Cadet. Tactical reports indicate Inner Sphere pirates are obsessed with the collection of booty."

*shocked look* "Does that mean what...what I think it means, sir?"

*grim* "I am afraid so, Cadet."

OK, you win MWO RP. Forever.

[Gremlich Johns]

@Literally, you liked your own post? tacky....

and steampunk kids are just goth kids who discovered copper, brass and brown after Twilight and faux vampire culture came out

[Metalfyre]

Cato Phoenix, on 19 December 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

I know for Clan Jade Falcon, once the community warfare rolls out we will transistion into the pirate-for-the-clan unit the Red Corsairs- but we will still be using clanspeak. Basically we will RP being really bad pirates, because clanners do not understand the concept of actual piracy (salvage, etc).

The Clans do salvage. Waste not, quiaff? And pirates, belonging to the lowest caste in Clan society, do not have honour; Zellbringen does not apply when hunting them. A dictum observing pirate outfit will be an interesting anti-thesis except to orthodox Clanners hunting them.

[RagingOyster]

I sprinkle Clan jargon in my chat sometimes, but rarely. Why bother when the Clans have not even arrived in the IS yet? I am an avid RP Clanner, not one of the bandwagon kids who will jump ship just because of the superior tech, but the battlefield is not the place for RPing unless you are in a premade drop against another premade and both groups are in on it.