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[Omigir]

Earlier this month there was a bit of outrage about a statement made by IGN about our beloved and coveted MW:O
Sense then they have changed Titan to Atlas in the article ( http://pc.ign.com/ar.../1220281p1.html ) But I came across something while I was looking up the Devi stator ( http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Devastator ).

this is what caught my eye
" General Kerensky himself designed the specifications for the Devastator to make up for perceived flaws in the prototype Titan. "

Now.. up untill this point I really dint think the Titan existed.. sure I heard of the Grand Titan and the Titan II, but I assumed the Titan II was a jump off the grand titan..

Keep in mind I am not a super in depth fan and I can be proven wrong at any given moment.. According to Sarna, the Devastator was produced in 3027.. and there is no wiwki page for a 'Titan' not as a battle mech at least.

So.. still curious opend up megamek and took a peek to see what the 'titan' was. Not the titan II, just a straight up titan...

Titan TI-1A
100 tons IS TW non-box set

Movement: 3/5
Engine: 300
Heat Sinks: 22

Internal: 152
Armor: 304/307
HD: 3 9
CT: 31 41 ( 20)
RT: 21 27 ( 15)
LT: 21 27 ( 15)
RA: 17 33
LA: 17 33
RL: 21 42
LL: 21 42

Medium Laser [LA] 3 Heat
Medium Laser [LA] 3 Heat
Medium Laser [LA] 3 Heat
Medium Laser [RA] 3 Heat
Medium Laser [RA] 3 Heat
Medium Laser [RA] 3 Heat
Particle Cannon [LT] 10 Heat
SRM 4 [LT] 3 Heat
SRM 4 [LT] 3 Heat
Particle Cannon [RT] 10 Heat
SRM 4 [RT] 3 Heat
SRM 4 [RT] 3 Heat
SRM 6 [CT] 4 Heat

SRM 4 Ammo (25) [LT]
SRM 6 Ammo (15) [LT]
SRM 4 Ammo (25) [RT]



BV: 1,959 Cost: 9,922,000 Cbills


So could it have been a reveal? A slip up? Could there really be a titan in MWO? O_____o

*insert X-files music here*

[Adridos]

No, IGN put a guy from zynga games to make the text, so he said a lot of stupid things.
Also, they said this game will be on Xbox based on the veeery old trailer from 2009.

Edited by Adridos, 22 March 2012 - 07:26 AM.

[Listless Nomad]

From the Sarna Page on the Titan II

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TI-1A - The original Titan never reached full-scale production, though rumors abound that the Federated Suns produced prototypes, some with upgraded technology. The 1A called for two PPCs, six Medium Lasers, four SRM-4s, and an SRM-6. It only had twenty-two heat sinks and a different armor configuration.^[2] BV (2.0) = 1,959^[3]

The underline is mine - looks like it was made, but never really existed in any significant capacity. MegaMek probably has it just to add some spice or flair.

[AdamBaines]

The Titan was never a production battlemech, just a failed prototype. As Sarna indicates the Grand Titian was based off this design and the Titan II was also based off this design but with different direction in mind.

"....the Titan II owes its existence to the Titan, a prototype that dates to 2765. That design was unearthed by the Federated Suns in 3023 and led to the Grand Titan. That design deviated significantly from the original, while the Titan II is more of an upgrade using new weaponry".

Not sure where MegaMek got the stats from the Original Titan.

The Titan and the Atlas have zero zip zilch connections.

Edited by AdamBaines, 22 March 2012 - 07:34 AM.

[metro]

moving to off topic.

[Omigir]

Well, it was worth a shot XD still, pretty good coincidence! They mixed up the atlas with another 100 ton mech... LOL

[guardiandashi]

the TI-1A titan origionally came from the battletechnology magazine and was recanonized in TRO 3085 I believe

http://webspace.webr...t/BT_Titan.html

the general image looked a lot like the titan II seen here
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Titan_II

the differences were the srm4 tubes were in the shoulders ppc barrels basically just above the hips, and the srm6 was in the center torso with 3 tubes on each side of the box in the middle of the chest

[Jacob Davion]

So, Omigir, what's the question you're asking? Because I myself am interested in this mech as well. Are you wanting to see this mech show up in MechWarrior Online? Is that what you're asking?

[Belldandy Morisato]

I really do not think the original statted Titan will make an appearance, even the mention in the TRO was a nod to the design's parentage from Battetechnology. I also believe there is no official tabtletop record sheet for this unit at this time as well which would seal it's canonicity. The Titan II and Grand Titan would have a higher chance of being in the game, assuming the game even makes it to the introduction years.

[Alizabeth Aijou]

There used to be an official record sheet for it.
Although that one's now apocryphal thanks to CGL's changed opinions on canonicity.

[wanderer]

Yep. Like the original (not the superheavy) Omega, the original Titan stats slipped into non-canon...although there's a sideways reference or two to it in TRO's.

[TKG]

By omega do you mean the mech produced by project omega ie the april fools joke?
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Orca
Or something else this si the second time i've heard of a mech with or associated to the name omega but no info is availible.


for other spoof mechs theres this
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Gausszilla

one has to wonder is the titan under that catergory? A unofficial spoof that maybe took on a life of it's own.

[Arctic Fox]

belldandy morisato, on 16 June 2012 - 10:14 PM, said:

I really do not think the original statted Titan will make an appearance, even the mention in the TRO was a nod to the design's parentage from Battetechnology. I also believe there is no official tabtletop record sheet for this unit at this time as well which would seal it's canonicity. The Titan II and Grand Titan would have a higher chance of being in the game, assuming the game even makes it to the introduction years.

Alizabeth Aijou, on 17 June 2012 - 05:26 AM, said:

There used to be an official record sheet for it.
Although that one's now apocryphal thanks to CGL's changed opinions on canonicity.

Actually, there is a Record Sheet for the TI-1A Titan in RS3075u. I believe that makes it fully canonical at this point.

TKG, on 19 June 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

By omega do you mean the mech produced by project omega ie the april fools joke?
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Orca
Or something else this si the second time i've heard of a mech with or associated to the name omega but no info is availible.

He's referring to an old design that appeared in the BattleTechnology magazine, which is now considered apocryphal. It is this one, I believe. The other 'Mech known as the Omega (pictured here), and currently the only canon one, is a Super-Heavy design that is (very) briefly fielded by the Word of Blake at the end of the Jihad.

[wanderer]

TKG, on 19 June 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

By omega do you mean the mech produced by project omega ie the april fools joke?
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Orca
Or something else this si the second time i've heard of a mech with or associated to the name omega but no info is availible.

At the end of the Jihad, the Word of Blake finally managed to build a 'Mech that WORKED over the 100-ton assault weight. That's the canonical Omega. This is the artwork (the stats are in Jihad: Final Reckoning):

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for other spoof mechs theres this
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Gausszilla

one has to wonder is the titan under that catergory? A unofficial spoof that maybe took on a life of it's own.

The original Titan, like the original Omega (a 100 ton energy boat) were both Battletechnology articles, though the Titan got statted as noted in RS3075u.

[Expunge]

Would be pretty sweet if they would use it since I wrote it 20 something years ago when I was a senior in highschool.

The Titan was published in Battletechnology #11 and the Titan II was published in #17. The Grand Titan was a pos.(and was completely written by FASA, hence why it was overweight and grossly configured) Can't say as I am exactly thrilled with the updated version in TRO 3075/85, but then again to my knowledge it is the only fan magazine mech that got its own mini.(which you got to admit is pretty cool) Any of the others that might have been out of a mag were by FASA writers. Me, I was and continue to be just a avid gamer though truth, I haven't played the board game in at least 10 years. But have done all the PC mech games.

Looking forward to MWO.

Dave aka Expunge

[mechasword]

AdamBaines, on 22 March 2012 - 07:31 AM, said:

The Titan was never a production battlemech, just a failed prototype. As Sarna indicates the Grand Titian was based off this design and the Titan II was also based off this design but with different direction in mind.

"....the Titan II owes its existence to the Titan, a prototype that dates to 2765. That design was unearthed by the Federated Suns in 3023 and led to the Grand Titan. That design deviated significantly from the original, while the Titan II is more of an upgrade using new weaponry".

Not sure where MegaMek got the stats from the Original Titan.

The Titan and the Atlas have zero zip zilch connections.

[Murdoc]

I think that it would be really awesome if they could bring out the Kodiak Mech. That think was the coolest mech i have ever used.

[Sarah Dalrymple]

Murdoc, on 05 November 2012 - 02:10 PM, said:

I think that it would be really awesome if they could bring out the Kodiak Mech. That think was the coolest mech i have ever used.

It might show up... after the Clans invade... so keep an eye out for after.., oh, I think March, next year?