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[IraqiWalker]

HeroForHire, on 18 March 2014 - 07:42 PM, said:

I have been living in Japan for nearly 20 years, and yes I do speak Japanese.
Regardless of any archaic, unused religeous/niche trivia you find on the Internet (God bless it), 大死 (Daishi) is not a real word.
And if you look at the kanji characters, the reference you found (大師) is not the same as the 大死 written about in BT lore.

Isn't it the merger of the words for Great (Dai - I don't know the katakana for it), and death (Shin).

So Dai-Shin. Dai-Shi. The problem is that English doesn't convey the tonal focus you find in Japanese, and to a greater extent in Chinese.

[a gaijin]

IraqiWalker, on 05 August 2014 - 03:59 PM, said:

Isn't it the merger of the words for Great (Dai - I don't know the katakana for it), and death (Shin).

So Dai-Shin. Dai-Shi. The problem is that English doesn't convey the tonal focus you find in Japanese, and to a greater extent in Chinese.

Though kanji-characters by themselves can (but not always!) convey meanings or have actual word meanings, in this case the two kanji 大 and 死 do not because it isn't an actual word. Plus 大 is used generally to convey size more than anything else.

An easy way to see if a word is an actual Japanese word is to use a translator program such as Google translate. If you put in either 大 or 死 by themselves the meaning (an actual word) is displayed.

If you put them together in the translator it just puts up the sound the two kanji characters make -- and not a word (it actually displays, "daishi"). If it was really a word it would probably display something along the lines of large death.

A real word that is probably what the author who created the name "Daishi" wanted to use is probably something along the lines of 凄死 .
Look it up in translate


[Edited a grammar error]

Edited by HeroForHire, 06 August 2014 - 08:14 PM.

[IraqiWalker]

HeroForHire, on 06 August 2014 - 08:10 PM, said:

Though kanji-characters by themselves can (but not always!) convey meanings or have actual word meanings, in this case the two kanji 大 and 死 do not because it isn't an actual word. Plus 大 is used generally to convey size more than anything else.

An easy way to see if a word is an actual Japanese word is to use a translator program such as Google translate. If you put in either 大 or 死 by themselves the meaning (an actual word) is displayed.

If you put them together in the translator it just puts up the sound the two kanji characters make -- and not a word (it actually displays, "daishi"). If it was really a word it would probably display something along the lines of large death.

A real word that is probably what the author who created the name "Daishi" wanted to use is probably something along the lines of 凄死 .
Look it up in translate


[Edited a grammar error]

Thanks for the explanation.

[a gaijin]

IraqiWalker, on 07 August 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

Thanks for the explanation.

Anytime
Always happy to talk about Japanese language, culture, etc.

[Strum Wealh]

Bump, to show the addition of the Vindicator (the first new IS chassis announcement since the debut of the Banshee on March 03)!

[Morang]

Aaaand we can include Hero Griffin variant, GRF-1E "Sparky" piloted by Elle Bennet from 5th Donegal Guards during the War of 3039 (probably still LCAF unit by then, with AFFC formed in the aftermath of 3039), with TRO 3039 being the source. Canonically LRM10 is replaced with 5 MLs, so probably energy boat.

[Strum Wealh]

Bump, with updates!

[Colby Boucher]

Wait.. do you honestly expect all of these units to somehow fit meaningfully into CW? I seriously doubt they will.

[Morang]

Panther - DCMS, 1st Sword of Light by the look of it? Maybe 2nd, too. Kentares flag is worn on the back right torso by 2nd, also sometimes seen on front right torso on the miniatures. This mech have something on the left arm, I doubt that it's Kentares flag, but who knows.

Enforcer - Hmm... Hard one, decals are too small at this low-res picture. Color matches Draconis March Militia, but there are no decals looking like DMM insignia or like DM planetary flags. Can't be Goshen either, as there are no black-on-white stripes.

Grasshopper - Mercs, Bronson's Horde.

Zeus - LCAF, 15th Arcturan Guards aka the Stavlos Tigers.

[Strum Wealh]

Morang, on 21 October 2014 - 03:20 AM, said:

Panther - DCMS, 1st Sword of Light by the look of it? Maybe 2nd, too. Kentares flag is worn on the back right torso by 2nd, also sometimes seen on front right torso on the miniatures. This mech have something on the left arm, I doubt that it's Kentares flag, but who knows.

Enforcer - Hmm... Hard one, decals are too small at this low-res picture. Color matches Draconis March Militia, but there are no decals looking like DMM insignia or like DM planetary flags. Can't be Goshen either, as there are no black-on-white stripes.

Grasshopper - Mercs, Bronson's Horde.

Zeus - LCAF, 15th Arcturan Guards aka the Stavlos Tigers.

Panther: Personally, I think it's more likely to be the 2nd SoL, because 1.) that was the unit that Minobu Tetsuhara was assigned to before he lost Katana Kat to his brother (after being banned from piloting a BattleMech ever again following the defense of Dromini VI) & 2.) the dragon emblem seems much darker than the surrounding "bare metal", while the emblem of the 1st SoL would/should (IMO) be lighter (to the point of matching the bare metal).

Enforcer: I agree that it's probably a DMM 'Mech based on the paint scheme (Alex and Hayden have been known to alter the emblems significantly for MWO, and the emblem on the outside-side of the 'Mech's right shoulder would seem to generally match the description of "a crown on a vertical white bar, set against a red shield"; the red part is generally badge/shield-shaped, and there does seem to be a lighter (white?) vertical component near the center but the emblem doesn't match any known FedSuns unit (between the CamoSpecs gallery, Sarna's gallery, and Hayden's thread)), but it's impossible to tell which DMM unit the particular 'Mech belongs to with the resolution on the promo image.

Grasshopper: I agree with the likelihood of it being a Bronson's Horde 'Mech.

Zeus: It's definitely a Stavlos Tigers' 'Mech.

Edited by Strum Wealh, 23 October 2014 - 07:59 AM.

[Morang]

Strum Wealh, on 21 October 2014 - 04:52 PM, said:

but the emblem doesn't match any known FedSuns unit (between the CamoSpecs gallery, Sarna's gallery, and Hayden's thread)), but it's impossible to tell which DMM unit the particular 'Mech belongs to with the resolution on the promo image.

Right shoulder of the Enforcer displays Mechwarrior Sergeant Major rank. Unit now can be more accurately described as Raman Draconis March Militia (hi-res concept art has been published in Media section of the website).

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Panther: Personally, I think it's more likely to be the 2nd SoL, because 1.) that was the unit that Minobu Tetsuhara was assigned to before he lost Katana Kat to his brother (after being banned from piloting a BattleMech ever again following the defense of Dromini VI) & 2.) the dragon emblem seems much darker than the surrounding "bare metal", while the emblem of the 1st SoL would/should (IMO) be lighter (to the point of matching the bare metal).

After seeing the hi-res I think that it's the 1st. Just because the glare on the Dragon matches the logo of the 1st Sword of Light both on Sarna and Camo Specs - there are two highlights on the neck of the Dragon and on the twin tail. Steel Dragon is low-quality on Sarna, and on Camo Specs it's darker and shares the texture of diagonal shades with Gold and Jade Dragons.

There are no other hints about particular Regiment on the picture. Inscription on the left arm reads says "The only bad cat" - generic enough for Panther. Left shoulder is just manufacturer's logo (Alshain Weaponry, along with Wakizashi Enterprises of the left thigh). That obsession with manufacturer's logos goes further with left knee logos "CETIZIN" and "Conan" parodying RL Japanese manufacturers Citizen (calculators and wristwatches) and Canon (obvious).

Edited by Morang, 23 October 2014 - 01:53 PM.

[Strum Wealh]

Having the high-rez images certainly helps!

The Panther, IMO, could go either way on the SOL (though, I can see the argument for it being 1st SOL vs 2nd SOL); from Hayden's thread (actual artwork by Ironhawk):

1st Sword of Light


2nd Sword of Light


There isn't that much shading difference between these renditions of the 1st's "ivory" (which is supposed to be yellowish-white, not silver-ish) and the 2nd's "steel-gray", and the tie-in/reference to Katana Kat - arguably the single most famous extant Panther - seems too obvious to ignore.

[Orkdung]

Question is when do we actually get to put Unit Insignia on our mechs? Wasn't this promised 2 years ago?

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[Morang]

Alex should've just painted Panther in FRR colors. Davion and Kurita both have top presence in the artwork when compared to other houses, and while there were few alternatives to paiting Enforcer in Davion colors (maybe some Davion-aligned mercs?), Panther became the staple of FRR forces too, with even New Oslo factory going to FRR.

Yes, I too always thought that Ivory Dragon should have warm, yellowish tint... Was just speaking of the art we have at hand.

[Morang]

Urbanmech - mercenaries again, Kirkpatrick's Invaders. Looks like second company, Kirkpatrick's Fireflies (flaming insect superimposed on capital K).

[Strum Wealh]

Morang, on 20 January 2015 - 01:15 PM, said:

Urbanmech - mercenaries again, Kirkpatrick's Invaders. Looks like second company, Kirkpatrick's Fireflies (flaming insect superimposed on capital K).

Thanks.

[Strum Wealh]

Bump, to show an update adding the Wave 3 Clan 'Mechs!

[Strum Wealh]

Bump, to mark the inclusion of the IS Resistance II 'Mechs - Wolfhound, Crab, Black Knight, and Mauler!

[Morang]

The process of creating the Mauler was shown in one of Weekend Updates:

http://mwomercs.com/...pdate-05022015/

It turns out that Mauler belongs to Benjamin Regulars (district crest on left thigh. It should be on lower left torso canonically, but it's definitely Benjamin District dagger).

Brown-red background with off-white stripes is the camo of 43rd Regulars, but these were created after the Jihad. There's no regimental crest on the mech, and crest of 43rd regulars is unknown as well. There are other BR regiments active during Invasion, of which camos and crests are unknown. So 43rd maybe, but not sure.

Mech also bears manufacturers' logos: Victory Industries on right elbow (Victory Nickel Alloy ER Large Laser), Imperator Automatic Weaponry on lower right torso (Imperator Smoothie-2 AC/2s) and Luthien Armor Works on groin (mech manufacturer). Script on right leg reads somewhat like "Belt Santa" (probably referring to rapid-fire cannons), symbols on chest look like "Za-Za" (?)

[shippy]

:LOVE this post, thanks for tracking down all the hero mechs it was on my list to do! what do you mean by insignia though for the units? are they in the game or just reflected on the artwork? (sorry newb question).