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#1 Cheatos

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:53 AM

Ever wish the people that complain about teams in a team based fighting game would just go away? Yeah me to.

OR.

Are you one of those people that think you are playing a single player MMO? (by the way I know how ridiculous that sounds....but can you describe it in any other way?)



Well good news for both of you. I have the ultimate solution. Why not have a 1v1 fight arena that keeps the fear of that nasty OP hack called teamwork out of your hair while at the same time allows the rest of us (you know, team players) to play. and later when we get on the forums not have to sift through a thread count higher than my sheets about how people who fight in an organized way are ruining everything in a game that requires organized fighting.


thoughts? i may need to add a poll to this.....

#2 Redshift2k5

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:57 AM

Worthy idea, but not presented in a manner conducive to constructive feedback. 2/10

#3 Cheatos

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:04 AM

You have to admit it would cut down on people complaining about teams.

View PostRedshift2k5, on 07 November 2012 - 04:57 AM, said:

Worthy idea, but not presented in a manner conducive to constructive feedback. 2/10


What the part about thread counts was too much?

Edited by Cheatos, 07 November 2012 - 05:04 AM.


#4 Captain Midnight

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:05 AM

So that guy wasn't in your premade was he? Sorry...

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:06 AM

The part that ignores how every other multiplayer team-based game on the planet works (some combination of tiering, PuG-only lobbies, and free-for-all game modes) was my favorite.

Edited by Bleary, 07 November 2012 - 05:07 AM.


#6 Cheatos

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:11 AM

View PostBleary, on 07 November 2012 - 05:06 AM, said:

The part that ignores how every other multiplayer team-based game on the planet works (some combination of tiering, PuG-only lobbies, and free-for-all game modes) was my favorite.


Actually I didnt bother touching on that. there are a ton of other threads going on and on about that. What i propose is to have a system where the people who play like this is a single player game can in fact BE in a single player game

Edited by Cheatos, 07 November 2012 - 05:12 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:17 AM

1 vs 1 is a good idea, and arena fights are a traditional part of Battletech; next time try phrasing it more as a real constructive suggestion instead of a couched complaint.

#8 Cheatos

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:19 AM

View PostRedshift2k5, on 07 November 2012 - 05:17 AM, said:

1 vs 1 is a good idea, and arena fights are a traditional part of Battletech; next time try phrasing it more as a real constructive suggestion instead of a couched complaint.


i call it multitasking

#9 Cheatos

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:29 AM

nobody has any other thoughts on a 1v1 arena?

#10 Congzilla

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:04 AM

So would this be like a Final Solution?

#11 Bluescuba

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:18 AM

We asked for arenas from early closed beta... not going to happen

Edited by Bluescuba, 07 November 2012 - 07:02 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:25 AM

Arena = Jenner fights. why would you pick anything else in a 1 v 1 fight now? especially since AMS take down SSRM (which suck now by the way).

Also just wait a few more patched for your 8 man premades to come back, its not that big of a deal.
i like the new matchmaking, because some of us dont have time to commit to a team and only jump on for a few rounds when we have time

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:32 AM

View PostCheatos, on 07 November 2012 - 05:11 AM, said:


Actually I didnt bother touching on that. there are a ton of other threads going on and on about that. What i propose is to have a system where the people who play like this is a single player game can in fact BE in a single player game

Right. And your idea ignores how modern multiplayer games work. The people playing solo and complaining about premades don't, by and large, want 1-on-1 duels. That's missing the point. They want the same things they've come to expect in any multiplayer game.

Edited by Bleary, 07 November 2012 - 06:32 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:33 AM

Well I might be one of the crazy people, but I actually enjoy playing team games with random people. Crazy Inoright :lol:

I also do not complain about organized teams.

Edited by River McCain, 07 November 2012 - 06:35 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:40 AM

View PostCheatos, on 07 November 2012 - 04:53 AM, said:

Ever wish the people that complain about teams in a team based fighting game would just go away? Yeah me to.

-- > I wish teamplayers would quit whining for 5 secs just because they have lost the ability to pad thier stats and stroke thier egos by matching thier 'units' against a unorganised pack of randoms. (added by Flare)

OR.

Are you one of those people that think you are playing a single player MMO? (by the way I know how ridiculous that sounds....but can you describe it in any other way?)



Well good news for both of you. I have the ultimate solution. Why not have a 1v1 fight arena that keeps the fear of that nasty OP hack called teamwork out of your hair while at the same time allows the rest of us (you know, team players) to play. and later when we get on the forums not have to sift through a thread count higher than my sheets about how people who fight in an organized way are ruining everything in a game that requires organized fighting.


thoughts? i may need to add a poll to this.....



A more ideal solution is for the teams to stop crying about the easy farm getting taken away, and wait for phase 2 and 3 where these elite 'units' can compete against each other.

PGi should of just had 2 queues, one for groups and one for randoms... groups fight each other and randoms randomly fire random shots in random directions for 10 mins.

Edited by FlareUKCS, 07 November 2012 - 06:40 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:53 AM

it would be great. make a 1v1 arena for silly puggers who cant work together, and leave the game as it was for everyone else.

#17 Cheatos

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 03:23 PM

View PostRedHairDave, on 07 November 2012 - 06:53 AM, said:

it would be great. make a 1v1 arena for silly puggers who cant work together, and leave the game as it was for everyone else.


THIS

#18 Murphy7

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:44 PM

View PostBleary, on 07 November 2012 - 06:32 AM, said:

Right. And your idea ignores how modern multiplayer games work. The people playing solo and complaining about premades don't, by and large, want 1-on-1 duels. That's missing the point. They want the same things they've come to expect in any multiplayer game.


Not any multiplayer game, they want something akin to Quake or Call of Duty, and maybe just maybe something akin to Battlefield - a lot more first person shootery, and less team play or deliberation.

That said, I am not sure that a Solaris game mode wouldn't be welcome in some quarters.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:46 PM

View PostPhemeto, on 07 November 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:

Arena = Jenner fights. why would you pick anything else in a 1 v 1 fight now? especially since AMS take down SSRM (which suck now by the way).

Also just wait a few more patched for your 8 man premades to come back, its not that big of a deal.
i like the new matchmaking, because some of us dont have time to commit to a team and only jump on for a few rounds when we have time


You could maybe take in a Cicada instead of a Jenner.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:53 PM

View PostPhemeto, on 07 November 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:

Arena = Jenner fights. why would you pick anything else in a 1 v 1 fight now? especially since AMS take down SSRM (which suck now by the way).

Also just wait a few more patched for your 8 man premades to come back, its not that big of a deal.
i like the new matchmaking, because some of us dont have time to commit to a team and only jump on for a few rounds when we have time

uhm have them match up by weight, weight class, bv, or some such?
So you take a Hunchy and go against somethign comparable?
Or have an option where if I WANT to take on a Jenner in my Atlas and they want to do the same it's possible but not the default setting.
No Atlas pilot worth his salt is going to lose to a Jenner in an arena 1v1. Back up against a wall and go pew pew pew until Jenner dies





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