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#1 Marcus451

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:53 AM

So I signed up for the Beta. I don't have any secret method of getting a key so I figured I would see if anyone working at MWO can help me out.

If anyone working on MWO sees this please don't be stingy with beta keys like Sony, and more specifically the Planetside 2 team. I've been waiting for months to get into Planetside. I have one friend that got in by paying Sony for the $40 starter pack. But I think they are making a BIG mistake that I hope you are able to avoid. I totally understand opening up 'closed' beta to people that are very eager to play by letting them pay. But you are going to miss a lot of early adopters like myself that preach to their friends about how they 'gotta play this new game'. With planetside, my one friend that got into the beta told me they like the game but probably wont play it much with the large amount of competition out there, and the fact that none of his other friends play it. I kinda feel so slighted by Sony that frankly I don't give a damn about Planetside any more. I'll stick to the games that include the people I love to game with.

This is where MWO can make a difference. Let loose your keys, get people talking about your game! We shall see what ends up happening, but I get the feeling that its going to be another wait until the full release because of this greed. I also understand that servers, bandwidth, and etc are reasons that you can't completely open it up, but to the people who registered I wouldn't keep them waiting long. Key point, Hawken is coming out right at the same time. I've gotten into their Beta, as have my friends, we LOVE the game and will be playing it for some time. I would love to give MWO a spin but CANT just yet....

At any given time on Steam, you have +100k people playing TF2, 100+ playing CS/GO/1.6, tens of thousands playing Portal 2. Valve has never been slingy with beta access and the like. Please see: the wild success of DOTA 2 if you need an idea of a successful beta. I would love to see MWO follow a similar path and see 100k concurrents making a great matchmaking community.

Long and short. Don't be greedy like Sony, be like Valve. If you do I suspect you will end up with the 3 key things make up a successful game. The player community and a solid game, and all the money.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:56 AM

dude, If you pick up the Dec issue of PC gamer with MWO on the cover you can get into closed beta instantly using the key on the last page.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:56 AM

We're on the verge of going into Open Beta, don't worry about it too much.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:57 AM

Please note that this is still CLOSED beta and that open beta is right around the corner. You'll be in and playing in no time. This really is a non-issue at this point (I hope). *crosses fingers*




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Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:01 AM

Tens of thousands of 'keys' have gone out. That isn't counting the buy-in option through the Founder's packs.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:02 AM

I don't know what you're talking about regarding PlanetSide 2. They've been throwing out keys like it going out of style... Twitter, Facebook, you name it. I have an extra PS2 Twitter key if someone wants one.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:07 AM

View PostMarcus451, on 24 October 2012 - 09:02 AM, said:

I have 278 games on Steam, and ONE on Origin (BF3 which was $10 for their 10 year anniversary).


In 30 years, I think I might have purchased around 278 computer games, how did you accumulate so many on Steam? Have you actually played them all?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:10 AM

I've been in beta for more then 3 months. I'm also in the planetside beta for the last year.

Trust me... they aren't anything close to the BS that is SOE.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:35 AM

View PostJacmac, on 24 October 2012 - 09:07 AM, said:

In 30 years, I think I might have purchased around 278 computer games, how did you accumulate so many on Steam? Have you actually played them all?


I have 365 games in my steam library. No its impossible to play them all but they're there if i want to :wacko: The nice thing about steam is the sales. they have them daily and them a mega sale twice a year. usually one in the summer and one around Christmas Its easy to pickup $60 dollar titles in the $10-$15 dollar range. I just hope MWO gets some facetime on steam. that would be so good for this game.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:47 AM

sorry, but MWO has been everything but stingy with keys.


Unfortunately, open beta was delayed so partner sites weren't given sufficient keys.

you can still register on mwomercs.com and fill out all the Beta questionairre to become PENDING and you can still be added to the game without finding a promotional key.

#11 SmithMPBT

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:56 AM

Ya my buddies got in right away after filling out the questionaire. But thats because I i have friends in Congress, and I'm supported by Big Oil.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:57 AM

View PostMarcus451, on 24 October 2012 - 08:53 AM, said:

If anyone working on MWO sees this please don't be stingy with beta keys like Sony, and more specifically the Planetside 2 team. I've been waiting for months to get into Planetside. I have one friend that got in by paying Sony for the $40 starter pack. But I think they are making a BIG mistake that I hope you are able to avoid. I totally understand opening up 'closed' beta to people that are very eager to play by letting them pay. But you are going to miss a lot of early adopters like myself that preach to their friends about how they 'gotta play this new game'. With planetside, my one friend that got into the beta told me they like the game but probably wont play it much with the large amount of competition out there, and the fact that none of his other friends play it. I kinda feel so slighted by Sony that frankly I don't give a damn about Planetside any more. I'll stick to the games that include the people I love to game with.


Friend huh? They've given out extra keys to beta testers to give out. Honestly I don't really see Planetside 2 as having any real competition either. The way that game moves there really isn't anything that matches in the FPS market beyond the small basics. I can understand mostly playing games with friends, they're often a bit more fun that way, though PS2, like this, are both free. If they're unwilling to download a free game well...tis just sad. I thought that was one of the huge perks to the F2P concept, if I found something I liked everyone could join in without having to buy anything.

Either way, in the grand scheme, closed beta keys for you to hype up the game are silly. It's more for the testing, the game will be released anyway and then you nor your friends will have to wait to get into any exclusive club to play.

So far I'm the only kid on my block into this beta an you know what? Don't really care. Because I'm going to annoy my friends to no end until they download the client when the doors open.

Edited by Karyudo ds, 24 October 2012 - 09:58 AM.


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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:01 AM

View PostMarcus451, on 24 October 2012 - 08:53 AM, said:

So I signed up for the Beta. I don't have any secret method of getting a key so I figured I would see if anyone working at MWO can help me out.

If anyone working on MWO sees this please don't be stingy with beta keys like Sony, and more specifically the Planetside 2 team. I've been waiting for months to get into Planetside. I have one friend that got in by paying Sony for the $40 starter pack. But I think they are making a BIG mistake that I hope you are able to avoid. I totally understand opening up 'closed' beta to people that are very eager to play by letting them pay. But you are going to miss a lot of early adopters like myself that preach to their friends about how they 'gotta play this new game'. With planetside, my one friend that got into the beta told me they like the game but probably wont play it much with the large amount of competition out there, and the fact that none of his other friends play it. I kinda feel so slighted by Sony that frankly I don't give a damn about Planetside any more. I'll stick to the games that include the people I love to game with.

This is where MWO can make a difference. Let loose your keys, get people talking about your game! We shall see what ends up happening, but I get the feeling that its going to be another wait until the full release because of this greed. I also understand that servers, bandwidth, and etc are reasons that you can't completely open it up, but to the people who registered I wouldn't keep them waiting long. Key point, Hawken is coming out right at the same time. I've gotten into their Beta, as have my friends, we LOVE the game and will be playing it for some time. I would love to give MWO a spin but CANT just yet....

At any given time on Steam, you have +100k people playing TF2, 100+ playing CS/GO/1.6, tens of thousands playing Portal 2. Valve has never been slingy with beta access and the like. Please see: the wild success of DOTA 2 if you need an idea of a successful beta. I would love to see MWO follow a similar path and see 100k concurrents making a great matchmaking community.

Long and short. Don't be greedy like Sony, be like Valve. If you do I suspect you will end up with the 3 key things make up a successful game. The player community and a solid game, and all the money.


Uh...cool story bro?

Played PS2 and while they are money grubbing I have no problem forking over a one time 40 dollar deal to get extra stuff (that can be unlocked for free) and I payed for founders here. Is it me being swindled? I don't think so because I get to help fund both games and have a voice(while limited it is) in the design of the game. I'm kinda glad the didn't follow your "fool proof" success plan because there aren't as many trolls who want to be catered to because they are a beautiful pwn flake and when I get killed it's obviously because of the game being stupid. And then they wish to screw the game up for us who will play it for years to come. So honestly I hope more companies follow this model of MWO and Planetside 2. Especially for PS2 because while the original was amazing I'm even more thoroughly impressed by the sequel. So if my money goes to make an amazing game that has had a large number of people like myself pay to get access and volunteer our time to help make it better, I'm very much on board.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:20 AM

View PostMarcus451, on 24 October 2012 - 10:05 AM, said:

YES, my friend. No need to make this into an internet **** measuring contest. My friend gave me a PS2 key but it never activates on my account....


I would check with Sony on that if you haven't but the game's doors will be open in a month anyway.

I agree the social media thing is annoying, though they have done none of the bizarre things you mention here and Sony isn't even doing that. Yeah they took the Founder concept too, but you're not paying to get into the game, because that's just stupid. The games are both free the second the doors go open. You really just get perks and to see the game at an early state. So while they aren't offering that you don't have to do anything weird to get in here. In fact in you just wait a bit you'll be able to play it anyway. Beta key nao or not.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:34 AM

Ok i can feel your pain but as others have said we should be going into open beta very soon.

Regarding PS2, i know what you mean about SOE, i signed up for that about 6months ago, i refused to go begging on their twitter feed like some many others trolling for a key. and finally got one of the extra keys a guild member received. out of 18 people in guild that signed up to PS2 only 5 got keys but they got 2 keys (one for them one for a friend). And to be honest i'm not impressed with it so far - give me a huge fecking Mech anyday :wacko:





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