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#1 Joinkevich

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 07:16 PM

[insert drunken chantix-induced rant]

Edited by Joinkevich, 11 December 2014 - 05:20 PM.
edited title to remove profanity


#2 Homeless Bill

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 07:22 PM

Should be in the Tournaments forum. But I do agree that with multi-day tournaments like this, they should limit it. It's gotta be super demoralizing to compete and lose to the same guy day after day.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 07:29 PM

Where can I sign up for the Koreanese fan club? ;)

#4 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 07:40 PM

View PostJoinkevich, on 01 May 2013 - 07:16 PM, said:

Ok, so I for one was super-excited about the lest tournament.

One week of every best 'mech pilot gets some recognition!

Except... Koreanese, whatever the hell build he's running, seems to be consistently at the top for mediums. I only really play mediums. I have a pretty decent--even somewhat awesome; 6xLL 2xAMS-- stalker build that works out a lot of the time, but I like my mediums.

Anyway, I played about 6-10 hours last sunday -- in between house chores and advancing 'mech status i'm not sure. I made it to 18th place, which i'm pretty stoked about -- and my infant son is (debateably*) also stoked! The problem is... Koreanese is STILL the top gun for mediums... and he appears fifteen (15) times on the mofoin' leaderboard (that's mother-******* leaderboard, to those uninitiated).

Now that's cool, he/she's obvisouly a bad *** mech pilot... i'm just thinking, how much more awesome would it be if the tournament stated you could rank top 5/10 only ONCE and be part of the top-20 for the week only ONCE as well, instead of the same 5-10 people beating the same 5-15 people everytime with very little (if any) overlap.

My thinking is -- once you've won top-5 you are NO LONGER eligible for top-5 wins (at tje very LEAST, not within your same weight category) but still eligible, of course, for top-20 at the end of the week.

Anyway, good **** either way, I love to see mechwarrior continuing, but as a founder, i was very reluctant to spend any more cashish (read: USD; like total developer salary USD and fervent mechwarrior, regardless of MW TM owner a supporter of MW online) after i realized the winners were recycling.

I mean, i have one day a week where my score can even remotely compare to that **** -- so FTS (f**k that s**t) -- I f**king work 45 hours a week as an underpaid state employee, why does koreanese get to have all the fun?

Ah well, that's my rant. BTW, I LOVE the tournies, I just think if you're gonna do top-5 every day for a week, don't allow repeat offenders for the same weight class; that's horse-****!

So you wanna "win" by be given the prize, instead of earning it?

Makes me think that the "Everybody Is a Winner" mentality has taken hold. Does it suck to lose? Yes. Does it suck to be a "Winner" by default, instead of earning it? I'd say so.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 08:41 PM

It's a week long tournament, with an overall winner. If you nerf the ability for someone to win overall, it defeats the point of the whole thing.

Koreanese has a system that works for him, and has invested a lot of time into it. Also, he's very skilled, no matter what the naysayers and foul play conspiracy theorists think. All the more power to him for winning.

The number one spot should only ever be awarded to the person who takes it. No restrictions.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:15 PM

but it isn't the same 5 people over and over, in fact there is only 4 that have dominated previous tourneys, the rest are just a bunch of randoms. all the big names must be on summer vacation... or the other...

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:27 PM

View PostElizander, on 01 May 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:

Where can I sign up for the Koreanese fan club? ;)


I think he/she jumped to fame/infamy over a period of days! Koreanese will forever be ingrained in the minds of the Inner Sphere. Can the clans crush his might? Is he/she secretly a pony clanner? The mysteries of life.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 03:50 AM

View PostWhite Bear 84, on 01 May 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:


I think he/she jumped to fame/infamy over a period of days! Koreanese will forever be ingrained in the minds of the Inner Sphere. Can the clans crush his might? Is he/she secretly a pony clanner? The mysteries of life.

or is it Koreanese Allard-Liao? *sniff sniff* I smell a Stackpole Conspiracy.....

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 06:03 AM

Sorry to disappoint you.... but my builds are very standard. For med bracket I use 4p with 9 med las, for heavy I use 3 ppc 3d XML engine. I have a playlist of video stickied on training and guides section of forums. I explain most of my tactics and tips through 13 videos. Once this ******* tourneys over and I can sleep in peace at night, I'll be making a video about spamming the **** out of override button through entire game match. So take look at my videos! U might see something that you never thought about!

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 06:08 AM

O BTW I also work 12 hrs a day 6 days a week. The weather gods have blesses me with weather so lot of workers were sent back home!

Edited by Koreanese, 02 May 2013 - 06:09 AM.


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Posted 02 May 2013 - 06:14 AM

I don`t stand much of a chance in the tournaments, either, but I`d rather win nothing at all and know I tried my best than win something just because the better player wasn`t allowed to compete.

If you want something just for participating, play Little League baseball, you get a trophy every year regardless of how bad you suck :D

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 06:22 AM

Wow, the OP needs to take a "clear thinking in writing" class. Talk about stream-of-consciousness blather.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 06:24 AM

I'm all for fairness, but in adult competitions this is how things work. Besides who cares if you don't win 1st place, the prizes are ok but not something to feel regret over not getting. Its a game, have fun!

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 06:39 AM

What if Michael Phelps was told he could only have one gold medal in the olympics...

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 07:42 AM

I can't beat this one guy and get the "First Place Prize" on my own merit, so like can you disqualify him so that I can walk around with my Shiny Gold Medal (that should have the *First Place only in my Own Mind) to brag about and stroke my epeen to?

Could be worse, could be one of the blatant cheaters who try to brag about their skill, at least this guy admits to mediocrity. I just don't see why we should hand out awards for it.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 07:53 AM

Ok, so the OP may have been slightly annebriated. First off I just want to say I had a great time in the tournies, and most of my blather is unwarranted and... well, ranty.

So let me respond (also, no matter how many damn times I tried, when I posted this I always got the message that the number of quote tags was unbalanced, even though that's utter BS, so I've been force to resort to saying QUOTE for quotes....):

QUOTE: Should be in the Tournaments forum.


Good point

QUOTE: Where can I sign up for the Koreanese fan club?


Dunno but if you find out, I'm there!

QUOTE: I mean, i have one day a week where my score can even remotely compare to that **** -- so FTS (f**k that s**t)

Wow did I really say that? Really gotta lay off the rants...

QUOTE: So you wanna "win" by be given the prize, instead of earning it?


No, that's ridiculous. If you got a prize for being in 6th place because 3rd place had already received a prize, does that mean you didn't earn it? Maybe, but that's debatable, and I think that's what I may have been getting at.

QUOTE: It's a week long tournament, with an overall winner. If you nerf the ability for someone to win overall, it defeats the point of the whole thing.

Agreed. THat's why, even in my alcohol-fueled stream of consciousness blather, I STILL managed to remember to say:

QUOTE: My thinking is -- once you've won top-5 you are NO LONGER eligible for top-5 wins (at tje very LEAST, not within your same weight category) but still eligible, of course, for top-20 at the end of the week.

QUOTE: If you want something just for participating, play Little League baseball, you get a trophy every year regardless of how bad you suck

No, i don't want something for participating. I mean, actually I have millions of cbills from participating just because of the sheer number of games I played.

Also I made this pretty cool script that calculates (with the exception of team damage deductions) your approximate scores for all wait classes:

http://www.codeskulp...a3tKmfgNj8_7.py

But no, that's not really what I was getting at... and now that I think about it I don't really care. But last night i guess i did.


QUOTE: Wow, the OP needs to take a "clear thinking in writing" class. Talk about stream-of-consciousness blather.


Lol, indeed. Of course, a writing class won't undrunkify me. Instead, the OP should consider whether it's worth doing anything involving the interwebs, phones, or other people when too drunk. The answer is: probably not :D

QUOTE: I'm all for fairness, but in adult competitions this is how things work. Besides who cares if you don't win 1st place, the prizes are ok but not something to feel regret over not getting. Its a game, have fun!

Yup -- been having fun. Don't want anyone thinking I'm indignant or ungrateful. The tournies were good and I only ever got to 18th place, so it really wouldn't have mattered anyway. Apologies for unneeded ****-talking. But it was just a suggestion.

QUOTE: For med bracket I use 4p with 9 med las, for heavy I use 3 ppc 3d XML engine. I have a playlist of video stickied on training and guides section of forums. I explain most of my tactics and tips through 13 videos. Once this ******* tourneys over and I can sleep in peace at night, I'll be making a video about spamming the **** out of override button through entire game match. So take look at my videos! U might see something that you never thought about!

I prefer JSON engines to XML engines ;)

Cool .... a 4p, eh? I sold my damn 4p during the tourny to buy a second 4sp and i'm totally regretting it. I wish you could buy an empty/unfitted mech, cuz I have like 30 MLs just sitting around.

Anyway, i probably will check that out.

QUOTE: BTW I also work 12 hrs a day 6 days a week. The weather gods have blesses me with weather so lot of workers were sent back home!

Damn you!

QUOTE: I think he or she jumped to fame/infamy over a period of days! Koreanese will forever be ingrained in the minds of the Inner Sphere. Can the clans crush his might? Is he or she secretly a pony clanner?

lol!

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 08:05 AM

If you're bad, you're not gonna win no matter how many matches you try, just stop raging.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 08:10 AM

I can actually understand the want for having a different winner per day.. which sounds fine.

On the other hand.. there are actually different brackets. It is not humanly possible to win them all, unless you truly have nothing better to do.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 08:13 AM

I played for like 4 hours in the heavy bracket yesterday and ended up 20th :/

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you have to be realistic when playing a tourney like this. I'm being realistic about my skills when I say it'd be a stretch for me to crack the top ten, so that's not what I'm playing for. I'm simply trying to better my own score each night (892 last night, gonna try to crack that tonight!). Folks take things like this far too seriously IMHO: getting all aggro because they can't beat Koreanese. Chill. Have some fun. This is supposed to be a game, folks :D

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 08:13 AM

This thread is not a Guide, and so it will be moved form the Guides section to... well... the OP contains a very large quantity of profanity and vulgarity, so it will be Jettisoned.



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