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[Bishop Steiner]

ShadowFighter88, on 25 October 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

Now don't get me wrong - it's a striking design, but I question why such a Japanese-looking design is applied to a mech named after the Chinese god of death and who's most famous pilot was of Capellan descent.

That being said - if I'm mistaken about the red sunburst being a Japanese design, feel free to correct me and leave it at that.

OMG!! A half Capellan (Chinese) Space man from 1000 years in the future, after several hundred years of constant warfare knocked information and technology back to the Stone Age, got details of military symbolism from a millenia before wrong.

And the PC-police buttburt crowds of today are of course having to cry about it.

Despite the fact that NOT knowing perfect 20th century history is much more canon correct than knowing it would be. And I don't think 1000 years from now, the Space Mongols and Space Samurais care as much about WWII as they do about those Space Yankees (House Davion) and Krauts (Steiner).

Also, Max Liao had tried to get a Pan-Asian Alliance together before this point in time.

And hey, here is a thought, MAYBE, When Justin Allard painted Yen-Lo-Wang.....

HE JUST THOUGHT IT LOOKED COOL?

(Just a thought.)

[Leeroy Mechkins]

Maybe people just like their lore to make basic sense.
Not giant logical errors.

[Noth]

Leeroy Mechkins, on 26 October 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

Maybe people just like their lore to make basic sense.
Not giant logical errors.

It only doesn't make sense if you try and interject current day political and cultural issues and symbolism. It makes sense if you you know, think in a BT universe mindset.

[HlynkaCG]

Leeroy Mechkins, on 26 October 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

Maybe people just like their lore to make basic sense.
Not giant logical errors.

Except it isn't a giant logical error for the reasons already stated by Bishop.

[Patrick Seto]

the paint scheme doesn't need to resemble the japanese flag so closely to be canon. And in fact it doesn't even match the ccg card that people are using as proof of canon.

Really though I wouldn't have as much trouble with it even as the colors are in mwo now if it were not named after a chinese diety. If someone were as aware to personally name their ride after an ethnic diety, it makes no sense they would paint it from another's flag.. Especially given the history. I don't think it is far fetched to think someone knows history from 1000 years ago.

Please excuse any typos. Sitting around in waiting room killing time...

[Cache]

FWIW, that card from the CCG isn't the only canon representation of the Yen-Lo-Wang scheme. The late, great, Doug Chaffee did a better job with it (IMO):

Edited by cache, 27 October 2012 - 08:59 AM.

[Odanan]

cache, on 27 October 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:

FWIW, that card from the CCG isn't the only canon representation of the Yen-Lo-Wang scheme. The late, great, Doug Chaffee did a better job with it (IMO):

Now that's a cool image!

[ShadowFighter88]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 October 2012 - 08:25 PM, said:

OMG!! A half Capellan (Chinese) Space man from 1000 years in the future, after several hundred years of constant warfare knocked information and technology back to the Stone Age, got details of military symbolism from a millenia before wrong.

And the PC-police buttburt crowds of today are of course having to cry about it.

Despite the fact that NOT knowing perfect 20th century history is much more canon correct than knowing it would be. And I don't think 1000 years from now, the Space Mongols and Space Samurais care as much about WWII as they do about those Space Yankees (House Davion) and Krauts (Steiner).

Also, Max Liao had tried to get a Pan-Asian Alliance together before this point in time.

And hey, here is a thought, MAYBE, When Justin Allard painted Yen-Lo-Wang.....

HE JUST THOUGHT IT LOOKED COOL?

(Just a thought.)

Umm... I don't know if you just mis-read me or my wording was off, but I wasn't making a stink about it, I was just curious. I'm actually amazed that the thread's gone the way it has since I was just commenting on a discrepancy. Wasn't trying to rattle feathers or go overly PC or anything.

And I've actually realised that maybe the sunburst was a subtle comment about his allegiance to House Davion - the FedSun emblem being a gauntleted fist over a sunburst.

[Velba]

ShadowFighter88, on 27 October 2012 - 09:04 PM, said:

Umm... I don't know if you just mis-read me or my wording was off, but I wasn't making a stink about it, I was just curious. I'm actually amazed that the thread's gone the way it has since I was just commenting on a discrepancy. Wasn't trying to rattle feathers or go overly PC or anything.

And I've actually realised that maybe the sunburst was a subtle comment about his allegiance to House Davion - the FedSun emblem being a gauntleted fist over a sunburst.

Time travel....





You know what to do.

[Don X Hill]

JUST A THOUGHT

I live in japan and Yan-LO-WANG is a name used in a very popular anime/manga here. --FIST OF THE BLUE SKY or 蒼天の拳, Sōten no Ken Which is VERY VERY popular

Eather way its based off a Great figher (Simple Terms) Named Yan-LO-WANG/Kasumi Kenshiro a japanese name.


This refrence is used quite often on tv and in other anime about one being a great fighter and refering there skills to YAN-LO-WANG. Now the new issue between japan and china kinda sucks but and ties are not as close as they where when this was popular.


Easy way to explain it is that the name yan-lo-wang is very popular in japanese pop culture.


WIKI LINK <=======

Edited by Don X Hill, 28 October 2012 - 08:11 PM.

[EDMW CSN]

It is a canon paint job. Nothing wrong with that.

[Alex Wolfe]

cache, on 27 October 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:

FWIW, that card from the CCG isn't the only canon representation of the Yen-Lo-Wang scheme. The late, great, Doug Chaffee did a better job with it (IMO):

I'd buy THAT for a dollar.

[Joseph Mallan]

Leeroy Mechkins, on 26 October 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

It's like the Highlander came out painted in the Mexican flag.
Totally utterly nonsensical.

Unless Said Highlander was in Comacho's Cabaleros. Then it in fact would make sense!

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Cenotaph Stables
The colors of Cenotaph Stables are white and red.

Just sayin'.

[GreyGoo]

As someone of Chinese decent, I too find this paint scheme being associated with a mech name after a Chinese deity disturbing. Disconnecting the sun rays from the center sphere and moving it to the center of the mech would have made it more acceptable and closer to canon.

[Mister Haha]

maybe they can delete this thread like they did the others, and the problem will just vanish forever!

Edited by Mister Haha, 31 October 2012 - 04:13 PM.

[Bloody]

i am chinese, i dont careabout a fictional paint job by a fictional character in a fictional universe with a fictional name

grow up.

[J4ckInthebox]

[Franchi]

IT IS NOT CANON
IT IS NOT CANON
IT IS NOT CANON

Canon skin is a centered sunburst with the rays disconnected.

JESUS YOU CANON OBSESSED PEOPLE SHOULD AT LEAST KNOW THAT MUCH!

For the record I couldn't care less about canon or not, it just ****** me off when people say it is when it CLEARLY isn't.

Edited by Franchi, 31 October 2012 - 04:27 PM.

[Mister Haha]

Franchi, on 31 October 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

IT IS NOT CANON
IT IS NOT CANON
IT IS NOT CANON

Canon skin is a centered sunburst with the rays disconnected.

JESUS YOU CANON OBSESSED PEOPLE SHOULD AT LEAST KNOW THAT MUCH!

For the record I couldn't care less about canon or not, it just ****** me off when people say it is when it CLEARLY isn't.

a good point that i haven't seen anyone else bring up yet

[Sevaradan]

another non issue being blown out of proportion ><