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#1 N4Cer

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 02:37 PM

Hi

I just cant seem to group weaponsin this game. I have remapped the 'arrow' keys to my controls and mapped some other keys for the grouping selection. I can cycle up and down the list in game but I cant assign anything.

Maybe I am missing something. PLease help!

Thanks

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#2 Stickjock

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 02:38 PM

Right ctrl to select/deselect a group...

EDIT - missed that you said you remapped the selection key... hmmm... not sure... never remapped it myself, use the default right ctrl for it and no problems here...

re-EDIT - notice you got your Founder Tag too...!!... congrats!!

Edited by Stickjock, 05 October 2012 - 02:40 PM.


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Posted 05 October 2012 - 02:44 PM

I guess the solution would be not to re-map the right-ctrl until AFTER you've set your weapon groups

File a ticket if you can't actually re-map the right-ctrl function.

Edited by Redshift2k5, 05 October 2012 - 02:44 PM.


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Posted 05 October 2012 - 02:52 PM

Couldn't afford the Legendary status. Great to be back in the saddle of Mechwarrior. Loved this game since the first release back in the 90's.

I will figure out the grouping issue. Might take me a while though.

Thanks for all your help.

#5 Reitar

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 03:31 PM

Default keys for weapons grouping is up / down to scroll the individual weapons, left / right to select the weapon group number, RIGHT SIDE KEYBOARD CONTROL toggle the weapon group number off / on.

A quick walk through, seperating your short range weapon from your long range.

Default set up for new mech, 1 being the primary alpha attack. Bolded 1 = on

1 2 3 Medium Laser
1 2 3 Medium Laser
1 2 3 LRM 10

To change the group, you hit the down key twice to LRM. Underline = Selected weapon

1 2 3 Medium Laser
1 2 3 Medium Laser
1 2 3 LRM 10

First, remove the LRM from the medium laser group. Hit right control key, the 1 number is toggled off (no longer bold).

1 2 3 Medium Laser
1 2 3 Medium Laser
1 2 3 LRM 10

Now, hit the right arrow key to move over to the 3. Hit right control key, group is toggled to third mouse key (basicly side buttons on mouse).

1 2 3 Medium Laser
1 2 3 Medium Laser
1 2 3 LRM 10

Now, for a bonus. Hit the up key once and highlight the second medium laser. Then hit the arrow key to set the second medium laser to 2.

1 2 3 Medium Laser
1 2 3 Medium Laser
1 2 3 LRM 10

Now your mech is set to alpha strike with the medium lasers, while firing the LRM in an off key. This is because at the range you are using the LRM you will generally not be firing the medium laser unless really close. But in case you are going to over heat, you can now selet your right mouse button (the secondary weapon group) to fire just 1 medium laser in case you are starting to over heat or seperate your torso lasers from the arm lasers..arms have a wide and very sensitive tracking ability while the torso are basicly what you are looking at directly in the center hud.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 08:33 AM

Thanks for the explanation. Quite helpful. I've been able to play using groups with good success. Now, I noticed one of my groups is scrolling down automatically, and firing one weapon at a time, at least on that particular group. The squares in the group highlight each weapon going down and repeat all over again from the top. So far, no other group does this. I haven't found anything on this forum (that I can find) so I decided to post here since this is a weapons grouping issue. Not sure if this is a toggle, with something I pressed, or a bug? If anyone has the same problem but knows how to remedy this or explain how to turn that option on or off, it would be appreciated. Many thanks.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:37 PM

Is there any way to set the weapon groups in the Mech Lab?

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:41 PM

View Postpepperdoggy, on 27 October 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:

Thanks for the explanation. Quite helpful. I've been able to play using groups with good success. Now, I noticed one of my groups is scrolling down automatically, and firing one weapon at a time, at least on that particular group. The squares in the group highlight each weapon going down and repeat all over again from the top. So far, no other group does this. I haven't found anything on this forum (that I can find) so I decided to post here since this is a weapons grouping issue. Not sure if this is a toggle, with something I pressed, or a bug? If anyone has the same problem but knows how to remedy this or explain how to turn that option on or off, it would be appreciated. Many thanks.


That's chainfire in action. Toggle with backspace.

View Postmuswp1, on 27 October 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:

Is there any way to set the weapon groups in the Mech Lab?


No

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:59 PM

Great explanation Reiter!! Thank you.

#10 pepperdoggy

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:30 AM

Yes thanks so much for this Academus. I actually figured it out today too.

Edited by pepperdoggy, 28 October 2012 - 05:33 AM.


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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:28 AM

View Postmuswp1, on 27 October 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:

Is there any way to set the weapon groups in the Mech Lab?

No and it is a shame. I use a joystick to play have unmapped almost all of the keyboard commands. One of the exceptions is that I mapped the number pad arrow keys and number 0 (INS) to manipulate the weapon groups, just after the match starts. You only have to do it once per mech, it saves the settings. One you get used to the weapon mapping system it's pretty fast.

Backspace toggles chainfire and that isn't in the controls section , but it does function.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:53 AM

I've remapped my keys to my number pad. It allows an easy ergonomic hand placement for a "no look" change. I use the arrows on the 8,4,6,2 keys and re-mapped selection for the 5 which is right in the middle. I find it quick and easy for one hand changes. With my 5 button mouse I tend to set up like this:

Left click = fire group 1 (useualy my standard shooting without worrying to much about heat/or all arm weapons, depending on the mech*)

Right click = fire group 2 (if at least 1.27 on my heat in the mechlab, I use as my alpha strike, otherwise it's a chainfire of group 1/or all torso weapons, depending on the mech*)

Middle mouse button = fire group 3 (for LRMs)

Left thumb = Toggle Night Vision

Right pinky = Toggle Thermal Vision

*for an alpha strike in this configuration i simply press both mouse buttons :lol:

I know a lot of Mechwarriors keep their configurations a secret to give them an advantage in play, but I think this wont be giving too much away and still give beginners some insight on how much customization there is in the game.

Edited by Arlen, 28 October 2012 - 10:00 AM.






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