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[Ravensol]

yes i said it everyone throws the it's only beta out every time there is a opion or concern about something either ingame or not. well it is our job as beta testers to not only find glitches and bugs but to report them. Also to give feedback on the game. This means if you have a idea or observation that is game related post it here let the dev team read it and they can either say ewww won't work or they may say hmm good idea how can we do it. Building a game is a process you can get idea's from anyplace. However people always feel the need to post nonsence replies (trolling) this doesnt help the game makers process at all. I like having a debate with ideas and logic that helps.

[CobraFive]

When do I get paid?

[Lorcan Lladd]

You must've meant 'voluntary work'.
For which we might well spend some money - Founders come to mind.

[gregsolidus]

It would be easier to give proper feedback if we were given the proper algorithms for how things are supposed to work.

[Ravensol]

to reiterate beta testers job give feedback of bugs glitches ideas or opions. It really does help the dev's out do this in a civil way we all win. If there is a topic you disagree with post with a logical response and give your reason for not agreeing with the topic. I am certain there would be a big drop in the amount of locked and deleted posts. That and new people could get the information they are looking for alot easier.

[Ravensol]

Ravensol, on 29 October 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

to reiterate beta testers job give feedback of bugs glitches ideas or opions. It really does help the dev's out do this in a civil way we all win. If there is a topic you disagree with post with a logical response and give your reason for not agreeing with the topic. I am certain there would be a big drop in the amount of locked and deleted posts. That and new people could get the information they are looking for alot easier.

wow good point but i'd like to add everyone that is posting snarky or rude coments should wait untill beta is over before doing the normal forum posts you get in most game forums (troling n such)

[Vermaxx]

The job ended yesterday. The idea of open beta was to flood the servers for even more obscure bug appearance, and server stress.

If you don't believe me, try to find the 'submit ticket' option on the website.

Edited by Vermaxx, 30 October 2012 - 09:31 AM.

[PurpleNinja]

Ravensol, on 30 October 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

wow good point but i'd like to add everyone that is posting snarky or rude coments should wait untill beta is over before doing the normal forum posts you get in most game forums (troling n such)

I must agree with some people here that if you open the thing to everyone, it's a release, even if you keep the tag "beta" on it.
Remember Gmail, it was beta for years...
...wait, is this going to happen to MWO?
NOOOOOOOOO....

[Clay Pigeon]

The game has launched. There are no beta forums anymore that players can access.

[Kunae]

What they called "Closed Beta" was really "Open Beta" in everything but name.

This is release, with an upcoming marketing push, after Community Warfare is put in, which they're calling "Official Launch".

[Blackfire1]

Sorry but no. This is Open Beta. Meaning your still meant to test things out.

[Ravensol]

there is no way you are going to convince me open beta in the f2p market isn't a release of the game it is. The point i am trying to get accross is since this game is so clearly still being developed posting in the forums should try to be more informative with ideas, complaints , concerns and opionions and feedback of game issues doing that will help the dev's do there job and posibly help them get ideas that could be put into the game.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Vermaxx, on 30 October 2012 - 09:30 AM, said:

The job ended yesterday. The idea of open beta was to flood the servers for even more obscure bug appearance, and server stress.

If you don't believe me, try to find the 'submit ticket' option on the website.

The website is less than 24 hours old. There is a link to "Tickets" in the bottom on the page near the Knowledge Base and FAQ links (next to "We're Hiring"), but it's not functional yet. We're still Beta testing, so please stop lying.

Clay Pigeon, on 30 October 2012 - 09:40 AM, said:

The game has launched. There are no beta forums anymore that players can access.

The Beta forums are archived and many of them have been released back into the current forums (visit the guides section, take a look). Game Launch won't happen for a few more months until they get Community Warfare up and Online. We're still in Beta because we're testing new features and the core game-mode has not dropped yet. Please stop lying on the forums.

Kunae, on 30 October 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

What they called "Closed Beta" was really "Open Beta" in everything but name.

This is release, with an upcoming marketing push, after Community Warfare is put in, which they're calling "Official Launch".

The game was not Open Beta because you could not go to the MWO website, sign up, and play the game. The term "Closed Beta" means you need an invitation of some sort because they are controlling the number of players. "Open Beta" is where anyone can visit thte site, sign up, and play. Ths is not "Release" as you can clearly see that Community Warfare is not up yet. You don't get to make up your own definitions for words, so please stop lying on the forums.

Blackfire1, on 30 October 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

Sorry but no. This is Open Beta. Meaning your still meant to test things out.

Your Logic is strong.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 30 October 2012 - 09:55 AM.

[Corbon Zackery]

Open beta now let them lean from there mistakes and watch it take a nose dive like Star Wars Old Republic. People are fleeing in masses from that game.

[Ravensol]

i'm really not sure why so many publishers insist on pushing a game out before it is finished there has been a ton of them do this lately. I really don't understand it i know if i see somebody jump off a cliff and splat at the bottom that is something i really don't want to try but here we are..... So there is no need to rub it in insted lets try to help the only way we can and that is with our words we put in these forums. I would have said more money but if 5.2 mill can't get it done well....

Edited by Ravensol, 30 October 2012 - 10:05 AM.

[Frosted]

Wargaming rewards alpha and beta testers all the time. They gave me 1000 gold so far for beta testing one of there game.

[CypherHalo]

"Playing video games, it's a hobby."

I play games to have fun, PGI isn't paying me to not have fun while I help them work out the kinks in their game (especially as some of these "kinks" are more glaring and obvious flaws that should have been fixed months ago). Now if they want to start paying me . . . PM me.

[Ravensol]

CypherHalo, on 30 October 2012 - 10:08 AM, said:

"Playing video games, it's a hobby."

I play games to have fun, PGI isn't paying me to not have fun while I help them work out the kinks in their game (especially as some of these "kinks" are more glaring and obvious flaws that should have been fixed months ago). Now if they want to start paying me . . . PM me.

i also play video games to have fun but i also do alpha and beta tests to help game companies finish there dev of a game and sometimes it isn't fun. Since this game is still being developed (atm it's like were playing a demo of what they have planed...) and they are being clear it is beta i can't help the fact that releasing it to the public in f2p is game release they are clearly still in beta. So the choice everyone playing this game has is simple help test while playing or wait untill they say it is accually released to play. It is too late for them to fix things that are broken the public has already seen it and formed there opions about it igp will have to deal with the backlash they caused and pgi will take it in the shorts because of it.

[Dagger906]

Small amount of beta testers generally give horrible ideas as far as gameplay is concerned. Many games have suffered through this effect.

Not saying that the few vocal founders shouldn't be heard, just that their opinions won't be in line with the masses of casual players who matter after launch. General whine about simple things, like pug stomps, or repair bills, are more accurate reflections of what's to come. Stuff like canon accuracy, in game voice, or retaining founder cbill earning advantage, shouldn't take higher priority. Majority masses don't care about bt canon, don't have headset, and see earning advantage as unfairness/source of jealesy and reason to ditch the game.

[Ravensol]

Dagger906, on 01 November 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

Small amount of beta testers generally give horrible ideas as far as gameplay is concerned. Many games have suffered through this effect.

Not saying that the few vocal founders shouldn't be heard, just that their opinions won't be in line with the masses of casual players who matter after launch. General whine about simple things, like pug stomps, or repair bills, are more accurate reflections of what's to come. Stuff like canon accuracy, in game voice, or retaining founder cbill earning advantage, shouldn't take higher priority. Majority masses don't care about bt canon, don't have headset, and see earning advantage as unfairness/source of jealesy and reason to ditch the game.

This is my point of saying everyone that posts here should post but they should keep there posts as clear and helpful as posible even if it is a negative. It isn't our job to go through all the points made it is there job as the dev's of this game if they find something that they like great if not then no harm done. for example of accual discusion in the forums you mentioned earning advantage being unfair and causing jealesy. This is your opinion and you made it clearly and to the point. My argument for this is, Since this game messed up and went f2p it will be something they will have to deal with and have to walk a fine line when they do. They have to earn money to keep the lights on charging plp a sub to do this is a smart idea and has proven to work in the f2p market very well. They have looked at other games that have done the same thing and seen it works and are taking the risks here.