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[Redmace]

Noticed this in a match. I would do a 18 point strike to the rear, taking the rear armor down from new to yellow, and subsequently my opponents front armor did the same, to yellow. I was thinking this was odd behavior. I tried a few more times, but decided to go to the testing grounds for a less "mobile" and aggressive target.

At first I thought it was a bug with the display. I fired into the rear armor, bringing a 50 front armor to yellow, and then went to the front and alpha struck with 18 points again. It cored it, doing only 36 total damage to a center torso with 50 points armor. actually only 18 from the front. I repeated this several times with the same results. Rear armor damage is doing equal percentage damage to the front armors of Mechs.

[Dan Nashe]

I suggest bug report forum. I think there's one? I'm a lazy slacker and don't use it >.<

And it would probably help a lot of you specified (1) what weapon(s) you were shooting and (2) what kind of mech you were shooting at, so they can try to reproduce it in testing. IT could very easily be something like "gauss rifles on catapaults" or "all weapons on everything" but details help.

I feel like I've seen this before from allies, but again I was a bad beta tester and forgot to write it down.

Unrelated Protip: don't be me: when you get trapped on tourmaline, press F9, write down your coordinates.
PS, if you jump on an ally who is stuck, you both get stuck, and take constant collision damage. I cored him *AND* lost both my legs in under 10 seconds. Who says this game doesn't have collisions?

[blinkin]

was it a jenner? the have their rear side pretty evenly split between front and rear torso, as far as what you can shoot.

[Aim64C]

I noticed, earlier today, that my K2 seemed to take inexplicable damage to the rear torso armor - and only my rear CT armor.

It's -possible- a Jenner, or something, got back there and alphaed into my back... but I'm pretty certain I was only taking fire from the front (gauss rifle and PPC shots, mostly - with some autocannon spaced here and there).

I suppose it is, also, possible that it was friendly fire... I did have team mates behind me. But still - I was a bit purplexed by it.

It was most likely a ninja-jenner/raven or a case of friendly fire - but I usually am pretty good about taking note of when I'm getting lit up from behind.

[Redmace]

happens in every mech vs every mech. damage the rear armor, the front takes a hit. This needs fixed asap

[Narcissistic Martyr]

I've noticed this in my Treb's as well.

[Wildstreak]

You sure about this? When an armor section goes away, you take damage on the internals that register both front and back.

I can get hit in the rear CT, lose the armor and the internals show both front and back. The trick is to know the difference between armor and internals.

Armor is the outline of an area.
Internals is the solid middle.

So in my example, the solid middle of the CT changes both front and back but the front outline still shows so it is fine.

[Yokaiko]

Merchant, on 01 April 2013 - 08:52 PM, said:

You sure about this? When an armor section goes away, you take damage on the internals that register both front and back.

I can get hit in the rear CT, lose the armor and the internals show both front and back. The trick is to know the difference between armor and internals.

Armor is the outline of an area.
Internals is the solid middle.

So in my example, the solid middle of the CT changes both front and back but the front outline still shows so it is fine.

Yeah, thanks, 3200 games since CB, I hadn't figured that out.

I'm talking about taking FRONT CT ARMOR damage when I'm being hit from behind. Three times today this happened where I died in a jenner with barely yellow rear armor, unless I was getting outran by a hunchback.

[blinkin]

Yokaiko, on 01 April 2013 - 10:57 PM, said:

Yeah, thanks, 3200 games since CB, I hadn't figured that out.

I'm talking about taking FRONT CT ARMOR damage when I'm being hit from behind. Three times today this happened where I died in a jenner with barely yellow rear armor, unless I was getting outran by a hunchback.

this is not actually a bug (for the jenner). go into the mechlab and highlight the center torso then click on the mech and spin it around. the front CT makes up about half of what you can see from the rear. the large segment between the hip joints counts as front CT.

don't get me wrong i agree this is screwed up, but i don't think it qualifies as a bug.

[Wildstreak]

Yokaiko, on 01 April 2013 - 10:57 PM, said:

Yeah, thanks, 3200 games since CB, I hadn't figured that out.

I'm talking about taking FRONT CT ARMOR damage when I'm being hit from behind. Three times today this happened where I died in a jenner with barely yellow rear armor, unless I was getting outran by a hunchback.

Excuse me for not having telepathy thus being similar to everyone else you will ever meet and no I don't go around looking up people's records.

[Lord Psycho]

actually the rear armos is made to distribute some damage to the front so people don't insta kill you from behind so fast.

[Falchion Sensei]

I've seen this a few times in my Jager. My front CT armor is gone and my internals are orange. My rear CT armor is intact, I take a shot in the back, and my CT is destroyed thus killing me. The paper doll shows my rear CT armor still intact however. Perhaps the paper doll is not reflecting damage properly...

[focuspark]

Aim64C, on 31 March 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

I noticed, earlier today, that my K2 seemed to take inexplicable damage to the rear torso armor - and only my rear CT armor.

It's -possible- a Jenner, or something, got back there and alphaed into my back... but I'm pretty certain I was only taking fire from the front (gauss rifle and PPC shots, mostly - with some autocannon spaced here and there).

I suppose it is, also, possible that it was friendly fire... I did have team mates behind me. But still - I was a bit purplexed by it.

It was most likely a ninja-jenner/raven or a case of friendly fire - but I usually am pretty good about taking note of when I'm getting lit up from behind.

More likely a moronic teammate shot you in the rear... happens a lot more than it ought to

[Kmieciu]

Falchion Sensei, on 02 April 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

I've seen this a few times in my Jager. My front CT armor is gone and my internals are orange. My rear CT armor is intact, I take a shot in the back, and my CT is destroyed thus killing me. The paper doll shows my rear CT armor still intact however. Perhaps the paper doll is not reflecting damage properly...

Same thing happened to me in a TBT-7K. In fact, I always die due to CT breach, even if there is a Jenner shooting my back.

[blinkin]

Kmieciu, on 03 April 2013 - 02:04 AM, said:

Same thing happened to me in a TBT-7K. In fact, I always die due to CT breach, even if there is a Jenner shooting my back.

these issues are not unheard of. in fact this was fairly rampant in closed beta, it was almost impossible to actually deal damage to the rear torso sections of a dragon. i managed several solid direct hits to the rear torso sections of a dragon with SRM and all of it hit the front armor.

it would not surprise me that a fairly new mech suffers from this problem.