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#1 cgjones

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 07:58 PM

The one, single most important rule this game cannot succeed without...

I'm an experienced player (very often top of the killboard), and I just lost 10 matches in a row because of this problem. I feel bad for all the new guys who will probably give up and quit what is otherwise a fantastic game :(

#2 Lin Shai

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:01 PM

Really? We needed yet another thread?

You can post in any of the other "I lost, therefore it was a 'pre-made'" threads, you know?

#3 Digital Ninja

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:02 PM

View Postcgjones, on 01 November 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

The one, single most important rule this game cannot succeed without...

I'm an experienced player (very often top of the killboard), and I just lost 10 matches in a row because of this problem. I feel bad for all the new guys who will probably give up and quit what is otherwise a fantastic game :(

They're already planning to make it that way and there are already at least a post per hour about this. We really didn't need another.

#4 Skull Ringer

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:09 PM

No..they are NOT planning PUG vs PUG matching (show me where they have said otherwise). They are planning 4 person Premades with PUG fill-in..
And Yes, the only hope for this game is if the Devs get their fingers out of their ears and start PUG vs PUG matching.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:10 PM

View PostSkull Ringer, on 01 November 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

No..they are NOT planning PUG vs PUG matching (show me where they have said otherwise). They are planning 4 person Premades with PUG fill-in..
And Yes, the only hope for this game is if the Devs get their fingers out of their ears and start PUG vs PUG matching.

Post in one of the 10,000 other threads and let this one die.

#6 Mancu

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:13 PM

The last 7 matches played for me: 3 teams started the game by announcing they were premade, 1 admitted to being premade at the end, the other 3 didn't say. That's 4 of 7 deffinitely premade. All of those games were 8-0 or 8-1. Totally fun stuff.

#7 Wraith05

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:24 PM

Very unlikely you ran against 10 premades in a row.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:02 AM

View PostWraith05, on 01 November 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

Very unlikely you ran against 10 premades in a row.


..play at night as a PUG Wraith05. Anyone that has..and STAYS for more than 10 games KNOWS he is right on the money..

#9 Bguk

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:04 AM

Where have I seen the devs are changing something about the MM? I wonder where.....

#10 Kunae

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:06 AM

View Postcgjones, on 01 November 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

The one, single most important rule this game cannot succeed without...

I'm an experienced player (very often top of the killboard), and I just lost 10 matches in a row because of this problem. I feel bad for all the new guys who will probably give up and quit what is otherwise a fantastic game :P

No, you lost 10 in a row because you're not as good of a player as you think.

The one-eyed man is king, in a world of blind-men.

Oh yeah... http://mwomercs.com/...79-matchmaking/

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#11 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:09 AM

So then if all the premades are on at night why does Murphy's Law run into other Pre Mades about half the time we drop? We actually tried to arrange to drop against ourselves a few times. For a couple hours we would coordinate our two dropships so we would fight ourselves. In that time we succeeded once. I do play at night, I do drop with a team. I would say out team to PUG ratio is roughly 50%.

#12 Apoc1138

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:10 AM

I was playing awful last night, won some matches when I didn't die but was getting very few kills... mostly this was stupidity on my part combined with team mates that ran off in all directions... I only faced 1 premade that I know of in 10 matches

the fact that I do no damage to light mechs at all since the last patch is not helping - but they are rolling this back out next patch

there are alot of new players coming in to the game who have no clue about teamwork, Yes pugstomping premades should be patched against but it's not the be all and end all

#13 Korobug

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:10 AM

If I really wanted to, I could probably pull all 8 kills out in my jenner. Not because I am an exceptional player, but because I know how to get the last shot, I know how to finish off a mech. I'm usually around the top 3 in experience and C-Bills, but next to no kills. Though I suppose you would claim to be better than me after that battle? Alot of experiences players I've seen move on when a mech is incapacitated while 2 or 3 other mechs on the team sit there shooting at it to claim the kill, a whole lot of good that did.

#14 Shamoo

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:12 AM

View PostLin Shai, on 01 November 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

Really? We needed yet another thread?

You can post in any of the other "I lost, therefore it was a 'pre-made'" threads, you know?


Oh my yet another "Pre-made thread" The Dev's are already working on Phase 1 (max 4 pre-made in a match), and Phase 2 (Pre-made vs Pre-made) It's only been announced in threads 100's of times...

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:14 AM

View Postcgjones, on 01 November 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

The one, single most important rule this game cannot succeed without...

I'm an experienced player (very often top of the killboard), and I just lost 10 matches in a row because of this problem. I feel bad for all the new guys who will probably give up and quit what is otherwise a fantastic game :P


The problem with your thinking here is the word "I"

You did not lose, not by yourself. Your team lost. Your team was beaten by another team, for whatever reason. The fact that you score well doesn't mean anything in a team game.

#16 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:15 AM

View PostApoc1138, on 02 November 2012 - 06:10 AM, said:

the fact that I do no damage to light mechs at all since the last patch is not helping - but they are rolling this back out next patch

To fix this you need an LRM15 or two. and a good scout who will chase the enemy light Mech to keep lock. I can fairly well kill Lights "AT RANGE" with this Combo. But again it takes team work and scouts willing to work the R button. :P

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:16 AM

Maybe you're not as good as you thought?

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:35 AM

You do realize that the majority of premades are just PUG's with voice comm? I may belong to a Corp but I do play solo and the people I play with while I'm solo have nothing in common with me except we agree to work together and use comms. By the logic of some people on the forum, if I get on Battlefield 3 on my Xbox, run into three strangers, and we agree to communicate with each other via the voice comms that is Easily Available (just like this game) I'm a horrible, horrible person and have no right to be playing on the public servers.

Don't like losing? Don't blame others and drag them down. Work with the people that you got, ask a question, read the guides and team up. I love this community so much that I swear, if anyone wants help I will give it. You'll find that as long as you're willing to work with people and be polite, the majority will work with you. The reason that team play is emphasized is because the goal is to build this awesome community of co-operation, teamwork, and fun for the persistent game to follow. Simply put you have two choices, work together and get an awesome community or blame each other and turn the community at each others throats. Just Sayin'

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:38 AM

I want a queue for the clownshoes people. It should be like Something Awful, where members can demote you into it.

I would really enjoy screwing around in that queue, making the worst mechs I could for no reason other than to waste people's time.

#20 IIIuminaughty

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:38 AM

View Postcgjones, on 01 November 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

The one, single most important rule this game cannot succeed without...

I'm an experienced player (very often top of the killboard), and I just lost 10 matches in a row because of this problem. I feel bad for all the new guys who will probably give up and quit what is otherwise a fantastic game :P

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