11 replies to this topic

[Draugur]

Just a quick suggestion,

I think that both heat sinks and DHS should both be able to be used. After you buy the upgrade of course.

What made me think of this was that I have a mech that is a ton underweight with the weapon grouping I want to use. However I would like to pack on an extra heat sink or 2, but I cant because of the limited space. All that is left is just groups of 1 or 2 crit slots, where a DHS wouldn't fit.

I know I can max out armor or ammo, but I rather put it towards heat. Caustic Valley and all....

[xXDivoXx]

??? Variant of the Mech and what build you have.... I never had a Problem with Putting DoubleHeatSinks Remove 2 large lasers equip 3 medium pulse or just mediums... you will have same damage but enough space for 2 more DoubleHeatsinks

Inside the Legs you put ENDO Steel

[El Penguin]

I think hes asking to have it so you can add both DHS and normal heatsinks in your mech. I'm pretty sure that scenario you have is one of the downside of choosing DHS. It limits your hard points since it takes 3 now and you can't use them on the legs. You have to decide which type of heatsinks you can have more heat reduction from. Also I think that's how it is in the table top but I could be wrong.

[Naqel]

Double heatsinks shouldn't even be a massively expensive upgrade, they should just be more expensive heatsink variants.

[Icarium]

I don't think it will ever be done and I don't have problem with it anyway - DHS is an upgrade that affects most of your mech structure and changing to it renders you unable to use normal HS.
After BT wiki:

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Also, double heat sinks are normally incompatible with standard heat sinks. A given unit must therefore be equipped exclusively with either standard or double heat sinks, though exceptions are known.

Mentioned exception is a prototype for Super Griffin and all data on it was apparently completely lost.

[Draugur]

Its mostly a space issue.

take your torso(s) XL eng with a PPC and AMS, 5 crit slots left, 1DHS, now if I have an extra ton left on max weight, I would like to be able to put a normal HS in that slot, but cant.

I'm not saying it would work for everyone or on every mech. But it would be nice to have the option to make that choice.

[ltwally]

I really don't see any reason why this would cause problems ....

... but with all the things the dev's need to work on, this will probably never happen. It just isn't going to be a popular enough demand.

[Digital Ninja]

That would be completely OP and there are good reasons you can't mix them.

ltwally, on 31 October 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

I really don't see any reason why this would cause problems ....

You don't see how every mech in the game having drastically increased heat dissipation would cause problems? Currently you trade 1 ton for 1 crit slot. The advantage comes with a disadvantage. If you could mix both, every single mech in the game would use doubles in their engines even if they didn't have the crits to use them elsewhere. You'd get all the advantages with none of the disadvantages.

Edited by Digital Ninja, 31 October 2012 - 11:38 PM.

[Atreus Ofiach]

SORRY NO

being able to mix SHS and DHS would lead to every mech being able to be ****** OP buildable. you want to do that might as well just scrap hardpoints and allow free building so we can put 100 armor on an arm with 5 LL's on it while the rest of the mech doesnt matter.

So NO

[Morang]

No. You have to choose. That's how tech is balanced: you should consider advantages vs setbacks (both in cost and specifications).

[Circles End]

From a purely balance-wise PoV I completely understand why you can't mix SHS and DHS. But any of you MW oldgyus know the lore explanation is?

[Ornonge]

Morang, on 01 November 2012 - 02:31 AM, said:

No. You have to choose. That's how tech is balanced: you should consider advantages vs setbacks (both in cost and specifications).

^this. Mixing them isn't a good idea from my point of view.

Edited by Ornonge, 01 November 2012 - 04:08 AM.