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[plodder]

I was thinking, gears grinding, heated oils burning, fumes intoxicating, nice! Anyway, I posted the below to some fellas I've been talking to.

Just a suggestion, I'm out.
I have gone through the Factions. The Mercs do seem to have a better handle on recruiting. I have a suggestion that may help. Ask the Devs to “PIN”at the “TOP” of every House Faction Talk “House Recruiting.”
Get the threads that are already formed pinned if possible.
There are great recruiters, and great threads no doubt, but a new guy cannot find them. I searched “recruiting” “Join”, I found little of help.
It would be there that you could state your cases for what your house stands for. Divergent factions within a house should work together for recruiting, or let a group do that. A new guy without BT experience asks,”What is BT? What Faction should I join? This is a chaotic place.” Like everyone, they will be looking for a place to roost, companions to roughhouse with, and someone to care enough to say,”Hi,” and to watch their back.

[Adridos]

It is a good suggestion, but recruitment can have many forms and everyone prefers different methods, so having just one topic with specific typoe of recruitment talk could turn some people down and they would make it their way and post it separately.

It is just an assumption, so it doesn't have to be true.

[plodder]

Adridos, on 09 April 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

It is a good suggestion, but recruitment can have many forms and everyone prefers different methods, so having just one topic with specific typoe of recruitment talk could turn some people down and they would make it their way and post it separately.

It is just an assumption, so it doesn't have to be true.

Oh yeah, I agree with that, i was looking at the houses, for my own reasons, know a bit about BT, but really found very little to say, "AHH, I should consider this Faction, they present a good case."

Yeah only a suggestion anyway, I'm not rallying for it or anything. Thinking of others, you know, selfless, caring, almost humble, yeah, you know...

[Adridos]

plodder, on 09 April 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

Oh yeah, I agree with that, i was looking at the houses, for my own reasons, know a bit about BT, but really found very little to say, "AHH, I should consider this Faction, they present a good case."

Problem is that even with that knowledge, you will have hard time deciding. Trust me.

As for the separate threads for every house, I think that only a basic rundown for every faction in one thread in General forums should provide enough informations to decide. Simple propaganda talk for every house would go like this:

Davion one : "Join House Davion, we are the good guys attacked by evil Kuritans and communistic Liao scum!"

Liao one: "Join House Liao, we are a good group everyone hates, mainly those evil Daviots killing innocents and call it liberation!"

You have two recruitment campaigns with two contradicting statements. How easy would the decision be?


I think that a simple rundown for each one made by 3rd party is the best option, as it gives you basic information about factions without all that propaganda.

[plodder]

yeah, you are probably right. I get these ideas, without proper solutions. I know there are solutions, just figuring them out is the tough part.

Adridos, on 09 April 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

Problem is that even with that knowledge, you will have hard time deciding. Trust me.

As for the separate threads for every house, I think that only a basic rundown for every faction in one thread in General forums should provide enough informations to decide. Simple propaganda talk for every house would go like this:

Davion one : "Join House Davion, we are the good guys attacked by evil Kuritans and communistic Liao scum!"

Liao one: "Join House Liao, we are a good group everyone hates, mainly those evil Daviots killing innocents and call it liberation!"

You have two recruitment campaigns with two contradicting statements. How easy would the decision be?


I think that a simple rundown for each one made by 3rd party is the best option, as it gives you basic information about factions without all that propaganda.

Well I meant each house have their own, and if other houses posted in wrong house, it would be reported. Factions in a house would be a problem though.

Edited by plodder, 09 April 2012 - 10:46 AM.

[Dihm]

Faction units aren't player run, hence why you are seeing very little recruiting for them.

Those groups interested in player control have, mostly, come to realize that they will have to be a Merc unit within the structure of MWO, and are thus recruiting as such.

[Listless Nomad]

Adridos, on 09 April 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

Problem is that even with that knowledge, you will have hard time deciding. Trust me.

As for the separate threads for every house, I think that only a basic rundown for every faction in one thread in General forums should provide enough informations to decide. Simple propaganda talk for every house would go like this:

Davion one : "Join House Davion, we are the good guys attacked by evil Kuritans and communistic Liao scum!"

Liao one: "Join House Liao, we are a good group everyone hates, mainly those evil Daviots killing innocents and call it liberation!"

You have two recruitment campaigns with two contradicting statements. How easy would the decision be?


I think that a simple rundown for each one made by 3rd party is the best option, as it gives you basic information about factions without all that propaganda.

Want to explain to the new members about what happened on Truth adridos?

[Adridos]

Listless Nomad, on 09 April 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

Want to explain to the new members about what happened on Truth adridos?

Want to explain what happened during 4th Succession war, or when you were so kind to offer help keeping our main world in order?

P.S What happened on Truth?

[plodder]

Dihm, on 09 April 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

Faction units aren't player run, hence why you are seeing very little recruiting for them.

Those groups interested in player control have, mostly, come to realize that they will have to be a Merc unit within the structure of MWO, and are thus recruiting as such.

yeah, you're right too. just thinking. There is a place that explains the basic factions, what they are and such. Just thought it would be nice, for the proud and noble houses (you know who you are) would like to funnel noobs in a collected fasion.

Adridos, on 09 April 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

Want to explain what happened during 4th Succession war, or when you were so kind to offer help keeping our main world in order?

P.S What happened on Truth?

Look, your differences are showing

[Listless Nomad]

Adridos, on 09 April 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

P.S What happened on Truth?

Truth was a Capellan world from 2367 to 3030.

3020 - Capellan forces masquerading as rogue mercenary unit, raided the planet and killed from between 3,000 - 50,000 religious members of Pan-Humanist group.^[1] The world's population was devastated. Its population was only 3,000 by 3025.

3020 - Ridzik was a given special mission from the Chancellor. He led a mixed force of Maskirovka agents and Hussar officers to the world of Truth. His force masqueraded as rogue mercenary unit, and killed more than 3,000 reglious members of a group known as the Pan-Humanist Congregation.

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The Pan-Humanists are a philosophical movement recently begun in the Periphery. Founded on the Outworlds Alliance planet Ramora by Herodias Ap Gwynn in the late thirtieth-century, the Pan-Humanists believe that all humanity shares a common path, future and goals. Though Pan-Humanists may not be able to adequately interpret the path, they choose the obvious course of action to improve all mankind, which is to act as conciliators, diplomats and teachers.

The Pan-Humanists work throughout the Human Sphere to reconcile political, social and military disputes through education and diplomacy. Ironically enough, the philosophy of the Pan-Humanists is most akin to the surface intent of the Star League. In stark contrast to the Star League, the work of the Pan-Humanists has not harmed those it ostensibly endeavors to help.

From the old "ComStar report"

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Two “demonstration lessons” have been dealt out to religious groups in the last two decades, the first on Anderson’s World and the second, more serious, on the planet Truth.

In the second incident, a private religious sect advocating a pan-human unity extending to all believers in all Successor States was dealt with more severely. Once the sect was determined to be dangerous to the interests of the state and to have engaged in acts of disloyalty to the Chancellor, retribution was swift. Disguised as a rogue mercenary band, a company of hand-picked MechWarriors under the personal command of Colonel Pavel Ridzik was called in to eliminate the Pan-Humanists. In the slaughter that followed, thousands of defenseless civilians were systematically exterminated in a single day. Though a handful escaped the massacre, the movement ceased to exist as an organized religion.

Point me to the last time Davion House troops massacred a congregation of peaceful civilians on one of their own planets. And to think, your "elite" and "superior" Capellan troops were too gutless to do the job in uniform. They had to try to pretend to mercenaries to hide their shame. You can say what you want about the 4th Succession War, but Davions never stooped that low.

Edited by Listless Nomad, 09 April 2012 - 12:18 PM.

[plodder]

Listless Nomad, on 09 April 2012 - 12:17 PM, said:

Truth was a Capellan world from 2367 to 3030.

3020 - Capellan forces masquerading as rogue mercenary unit, raided the planet and killed from between 3,000 - 50,000 religious members of Pan-Humanist group.^[1] The world's population was devastated. Its population was only 3,000 by 3025.

3020 - Ridzik was a given special mission from the Chancellor. He led a mixed force of Maskirovka agents and Hussar officers to the world of Truth. His force masqueraded as rogue mercenary unit, and killed more than 3,000 reglious members of a group known as the Pan-Humanist Congregation.



From the old "ComStar report"




Point me to the last time Davion House troops massacred a congregation of peaceful civilians on one of their own planets. And to think, your "elite" and "superior" Capellan troops were too gutless to do the job in uniform. They had to try to pretend to mercenaries to hide their shame. You can say what you want about the 4th Succession War, but Davions never stooped that low.

Dude? (meant in most positive way possible)

[Adridos]

Listless Nomad, on 09 April 2012 - 12:17 PM, said:

3020 - Ridzik was a given special mission from the Chancellor. He led a mixed force of Maskirovka agents and Hussar officers to the world of Truth. His force masqueraded as rogue mercenary unit, and killed more than 3,000 reglious members of a group known as the Pan-Humanist Congregation.

First of all, we know Chancellor is crazy and we will take her out, it is not a thing you could do from day to day and it requires good planning.

Second, Ridzik shouldn't be considered a Capellan. He strived for power (tried to make Candace his consort) and jumped to the enemy when he saw that his employer has troubles and then finally used that as a perfect cover for his attacks on FWL.


Sorry for a bit off-topic talk plodder, but as you probably noticed, some propaganda threads were actually successful.

[plodder]

Ok , not looking for success , just had a reasonable thought , again I reiterate in spirit, if not in truth, zip your differences up, and put them away, it is most unseamly, and innapropriate here

Edited by plodder, 09 April 2012 - 01:48 PM.