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Question what can be a cause of self kill and some other questins


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#1 Ectar

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 05:17 PM

I want to understand how I can kill myself, providing I didn't step outside game field (just happend to me)

Also few more questions:

Will AMS ammo detonate?

Will Gauss ammo detonate?

What happens when left or right torso destroyed when XL engine equipped?

What happens when left or right torso destroyed when FF armor equipped, and armor took slots in left-right torso?

What happens when one of 3 (or all ) required HS destroyed ?

Can overheat kill, if yes under what conditions ?

and I'm not talking some Lore or TT theories, please real MWO Open Beta information.

#2 dtgamemaster

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:08 PM

1) Yes
2) No.
3) Death
4) No difference. With XL = Death
5) U lose heat dissipation capacity
6) Overheat Kill: You wont die by overheating.

But I have read that if you override the mandatory shutdown while overheating, you take some damage. Repeated overrides = death? You can try it out to verify it.

#3 arby358

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 06:31 PM

I just overrode my auto shutdown to get another shot on a mech, then started to move away and blew up. Overriding can kill you, if you do it just make sure to power down soon after or stop firing.

#4 BlackAce

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 06:50 AM

View PostEctar, on 02 November 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

I want to understand how I can kill myself, providing I didn't step outside game field (just happend to me)


The usual cause is overheating your mech. Pay close attention to the heat bar and try not to exceed 100%.



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Will AMS ammo detonate?


Yes.

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Will Gauss ammo detonate?


No but the Gauss Rifle itself will.

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What happens when left or right torso destroyed when XL engine equipped?


Your engine takes 3 points of critical damage and your mech is 'killed.' Engines (Standard or light) can only survive 2 points of critical damage. XL engines save weight but are twice the size of Standard engines and will be knocked out with a side torso destruction.

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What happens when left or right torso destroyed when FF armor equipped, and armor took slots in left-right torso?


Nothing but you will get an eye watering repair bill.

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What happens when one of 3 (or all ) required HS destroyed ?

Nothing directly. Your mech's heat capacity will shrink and the chances of blowing your engine from overheat go right up.

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Can overheat kill, if yes under what conditions ?


As I said running your mech too hot with wepons fire being hit by enemy flamers or standing in a heat spot, eg: the middle of the volcanic caldera in Caustic Valley, or a burning building in River City.

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and I'm not talking some Lore or TT theories, please real MWO Open Beta information.


I think people gathered that so can we knock off the TT hate? It just makes you look a **** and people inclined to not answer.

Edited by BlackAce, 03 November 2012 - 06:51 AM.


#5 MrLiNcH

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 08:39 AM

"killing" myself has happened twice now but not because of overheating. I was at critical damage, and running away to cover both times when it happened. Does critical damage mean engine also can explode? (btw, with trial centurion)

Also, when you "kill" yourself, do you not get c-bills for the loss? Noticed both times I blew up, no c-bills even with the loss.

#6 Khavi Vetali

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:58 AM

1. Yes
2. No, but yes, the weapon itself will explode.
3. Death.
4. Nothing, Ferro-Fibrous and Endosteel critical space does nothing when destroyed.
5. With each heat sink destroyed it is removed from your total heat sinks, and your ability to dissipate heat is worse.
6. You will die by overheating for too long, especially if you cook off your remaining ammo and do not have case. Even if you are not using ammo, if you override enough shutdowns and keep your heat over 100% you will die. Note, even walking in your mech generates a small amount of heat, so if you override a shutdown with high enough heat and start running again you may die even if you don't fire any weapons.

All real MWO beta information.

#7 Ectar

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 12:25 PM

Thank you guys for such detailed explanation!!!!

Can I prevent Gauss explosion using CASE ?

#8 ArchSight

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 12:34 PM

View PostEctar, on 03 November 2012 - 12:25 PM, said:

Thank you guys for such detailed explanation!!!!

Can I prevent Gauss explosion using CASE ?


C.A.S.E. only protects other sections from the explosion of the weapon or ammo in the section that C.A.S.E. is equipped on.

#9 Ectar

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 12:38 PM

View PostArchSight, on 03 November 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:


C.A.S.E. only protects other sections from the explosion of the weapon or ammo in the section that C.A.S.E. is equipped on.


Thank you, that is exactly what I want to know....

#10 MrLiNcH

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 01:03 PM

So, another clarification on heat, since I just blew up again... is it damaging to your mech only when you overheat, or whenever you're in heat warning?

#11 Beo Vulf

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 02:50 PM

View Postdtgamemaster, on 02 November 2012 - 06:08 PM, said:

1) Yes
2) No.
3) Death
4) No difference. With XL = Death
5) U lose heat dissipation capacity
6) Overheat Kill: You wont die by overheating.

But I have read that if you override the mandatory shutdown while overheating, you take some damage. Repeated overrides = death? You can try it out to verify it.

Not your death your mechs death. Any ammo you have in the torso basically explodes destroying your mech. Happens quite often when someone hits override after overheating and than goes immediately to full throttle.

#12 BlackAce

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 05:59 PM

View PostMrLiNcH, on 03 November 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

So, another clarification on heat, since I just blew up again... is it damaging to your mech only when you overheat, or whenever you're in heat warning?


If you get badly damaged and you lose a heat sink, this reduces your max heat capacity, which if you're already at or close to your old max, can cause a mech's engine or ammo to blow.

#13 Shalune

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:34 AM

If you're suddenly dying out of nowhere, it might be something other than the mechanics mentioned here. I've had this happen to me at least twice between 20-40% heat when not taking fire from any source, and registering as me killing myself. It's possible this is a bug. My only theory is that my heat was not displaying correctly. In hindsight it may have been showing lower than expected for how much I was firing.





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