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#21 Lane

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:18 PM

Depending on how the heatsink's shake out I might just run gauss and nothing else, since I don't like the k2 i'll be using just 1. :P

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#22 Johnny Reb

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:18 PM

Um..yes but I make my own optimized builds not just the ones you stated.

#23 CocoaJin

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:19 PM

Im not sure if I run optimized builds...the only one in your list Ive run is the all MPL Awesome.

When it comes to builds, I just ask myself what role I want to fill or how to best utilize the strengths of the mech...then strap on weapons that best suit that role with the available tonnage.

That being said, I do like Dragons, and they are the epitome of mixed build designs...I think boating is so rampant because the mechs tend to have boating hardpoint configurations. Those mixed config mechs were esepcially hard to make strong builds with prior to the XL Engine and Endo Steel additions to the game. The tonnage gap between large and medium lasers or between energy to ballsitic is tremendous, making it difficult to sacrifice more weapons, for less heat and increased fire control fidelity, just so you can hit farther out...or sacrifice more energy weapons and decreased heat dissipation for those energy weapons, in order to mount one ballistic weapon that is prone to missing, with each miss hurting a lot if it provides high damage per round, or hurting less and less at the expense of the ballistic round being more and more anemic for all the extra weight.

#24 MadcatX

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:35 PM

I make a mech with a weapon layout that's fun and more of my play style.

Currently I mostly run a founder Cat with the same weapons layout but with an XL 300 and a couple extra jump jets. I've been running this since a bit after closed beta started. I'm a big fan of maneuverability and being able to be my own spotter. LRM's are currently one of the hotly-debated OP weapons and I could care less if they are or not. As long as I can keep running something that suits my play style and helps support my team to win the match, I'm happy.

#25 Bloody

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:40 PM

Do you like getting punched in the face while hobbled on 1 leg or 1 arm behind your back or blinded in 1 eye or with your hands on your ankles strapped with your buttcheeks spread open ?

no? well i suppose if you were into masochism then fair enough, play how you want. but for most .. vanilla .. in their gaming , winning and optimal builds and gameplay is the only way to go ?

#26 Odins Fist

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:41 PM

"Do you really enjoy running just optimized builds?"....
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No I like Trial Mechs soooooo much better.....
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Are you serious..??

#27 hanitora

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:42 PM

View PostBloody, on 04 November 2012 - 09:40 PM, said:

Do you like getting punched in the face while hobbled on 1 leg or 1 arm behind your back or blinded in 1 eye or with your hands on your ankles strapped with your buttcheeks spread open ?

no? well i suppose if you were into masochism then fair enough, play how you want. but for most .. vanilla .. in their gaming , winning and optimal builds and gameplay is the only way to go ?

You wouldn't need an optimized build if you weren't into masochism. Because "optimized ftom build" does jack and **** in a premade.

#28 Leetskeet

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:46 PM

View Posthanitora, on 04 November 2012 - 09:42 PM, said:

You wouldn't need an optimized build if you weren't into masochism. Because "optimized ftom build" does jack and **** in a premade.

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#29 Sean von Steinike

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:49 PM

I pretty much never play a flavor of the month setup.

#30 Tickdoff Tank

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:55 PM

I love to pilot a Dragon, so no FOTM for me. And I am not fond of the gauss rifle.

My current favorite Dragon is mounting 1 SSRM2, 2 LL and 2 ML with a 325XL, AMS (2 tons ammo). I do very well in it, but it may not be the mech for others.

My Cents are: 9AL-- L pulse laser, 3 medium lasers, 2 SSRM2s, 225 STD engine, AMS
9A-- 3 SSRM2s, UAC5, 2 medium lasers, 200 STD engine.

I enjoy all of these mechs and get plenty of kills with them and never fell like I am not pulling my weight in a group.

#31 Bloody

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:57 PM

View Posthanitora, on 04 November 2012 - 09:42 PM, said:

You wouldn't need an optimized build if you weren't into masochism. Because "optimized ftom build" does jack and **** in a premade.


that would be a different kind of masochism being in a premade. Again it is up to the player on his choices if he is enslaved to a group mechanics or he wants to retain his freedom in choice and individuality. Different stokes for different folks

#32 Lokust Davion

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:59 PM

The definition of fun, for me, is to find the right build and playstyle to get high kdr. Some people think kdr is pointless, then lets just agree to disagree. If a certain optimized build nets me high kdr, then ill be using that build forever as long as it works and gets the job done.

#33 hanitora

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:04 PM

View PostBloody, on 04 November 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:


that would be a different kind of masochism being in a premade. Again it is up to the player on his choices if he is enslaved to a group mechanics or he wants to retain his freedom in choice and individuality. Different stokes for different folks

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

#34 YoGetDog

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:11 PM

View Postlsp, on 04 November 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

Yes I find it fun, but I don't only run a streak cat. In fact I didn't start running one till the day before open beta.But no, I never purposely play crappy builds. I don't find it fun to get blown away by my own doing. If you kill someone in a derp build it proves nothing on your part, it just shows how bad they are.


This is why i love my K-2 ppc sniper build. half of the fun i think people are missing out on is just to experiment with different builds. i guess they care more for there K/D ratio.

#35 Bloody

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:11 PM

View Posthanitora, on 04 November 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


you laugh but you do no understand that every person you are with, demands that you act in a certain manner. Polite, Courteous, Civil. That is a group mechanic. That is the nature of being in a group, a culture, a community etc, You must conform to the group. As a lone Wolf you are not limited to that at all.

try thinking outside of the box instead of drone eh ?

#36 Gaeb

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:41 PM

Haven't been able to settle on a build I like. Atlas still running LRM20, AC20, Large Laser, Medium Laser. Feels like a very versatile, very slow brick wall.

#37 potatoparrot

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:43 PM

View Postlsp, on 04 November 2012 - 09:04 PM, said:

flamers didn't kill the atlas you did, in your cheap lagshield lightmech. Which is the reason I run a streakcat in the first place. I enjoy it so much when I blow little buggers like you away.


I'm sensing some hostility.

I'd also like to point out that Streak Cats can't do jack to a 'mech beyond 270m, a range I can still engage at with 2xML. A 140kmh Jenner dictates the range of engagement, so...

(Plus any Jenner sticking close to a Streakpult isn't paying attention)

#38 Johnny Reb

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:44 PM

My very deadly lrm hunchie is optimized but not used my many.

#39 Psydotek

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:46 PM

I have the most fun toting around an AC/20 on my Hunchback instead of a Gauss Rifle. I also really enjoy playing with a standard Awesome.

Do I win? Not too often. Do I have fun? You bet.

#40 Xinaoen

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:49 PM

I do my derping around in games where I don't have teammates counting on me to pull my weight, personally.





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