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#1 Delta66

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:52 PM

Ok, On Frozen City and Caustic I have consistent bad framerates.
On Forest and River City it fluctuates
At times I have a slide show 2fps - 3fps at 1024x768

Time to put some polish on this box.
Looking at the DXDIAG Snip I am posting, what is everyone's opinion... what ONE item should I upgrade for the best bang for my buck

Or.... If the config looks like I should do better.... Let me know, it becomes time to find the software problem
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System Information
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Time of this report: 11/5/2012, 22:46:02
	   Machine name:
   Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.120830-0334)
		   Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
	   System Model: System Product Name
			   BIOS: BIOS Date: 12/22/09 11:42:27 Ver: 03.16
		  Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
			 Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8192MB RAM
		  Page File: 2080MB used, 14300MB available
	    Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
	 DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode
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Display Devices
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		  Card name: AMD Radeon HD 6670
	   Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
		  Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6758)
		   DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
		 Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6758&SUBSYS_25451458&REV_00
	 Display Memory: 752 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 1008 MB
	  Shared Memory: 3839 MB
	   Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
	   Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
	  Monitor Model: AT22HZR
		 Monitor Id: ATV0100
	    Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
	    Output Type: HD15
	    Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1151 (English)
	 Driver Version: 9.1.0.0
	    DDI Version: 10.1
	 


#2 Vulpesveritas

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 09:20 PM

By what it looks like, your graphics card is the weakest component of your system, however you should not be having such low FPS drops even with that setup.

#3 Thorqemada

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 11:40 PM

Your FPS be way to low...i can only ask to check some commons:

Have you checked all drivers be up to date?
Have you set your graphic driver settings to "application controlled" where ever possible?
Have you worked on the games .cfg file?
Have you set the ingame options to different quality levels if it changes?
Have you background tasks running that do not work well with MWO?
Is your system running cool?
Do you have an onboard GPU that is not disabled?

Best is to ask a friend or colleague that knows the stuff and can take a look on it if nothing helps.

#4 Krzysztof z Bagien

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 03:24 AM

You can also try and delete shaders cache folder (\MechWarrior Online\USER\Shaders\Cache) - in some cases it helps with framerate.

#5 Fingersniffer

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:56 AM

I think you’re jumping the gun on trying to find a bottleneck with your hardware, however as stated I do think the video card is the weakest link in your setup.

Here are some more basic troubleshooting tips in order (Aside from ones already suggested)

1. The first thing you should try and do would be a simple uninstall and re-install of the game (making sure to delete leftover folders etc. prior to re-install)
2. Check for sound and video card conflicts (many people overlook how sound card(s) can affect a systems performance). Check your BIOS for on board video that might not be disabled or sound if you have an add-on sound card (PCI, PCI-E)
3. Open your Task Manager when you have the game running or even in the problem map and take note of processes that are running abnormally high, the issue might be with another program using too many of your resources and causing performance issues in game.
4. Uninstall Video and Sound Drivers and preferably use a “cleaner” to remove the leftovers of those drivers (best done in safe mode) then download new drivers from www.ati.com and whatever sound card mfg. your using.
5. This step is optional but recommended to ensure the issue is not software/OS/driver related its one you might consider. Format your system and reinstall your OS, not a repair or any other option but a full wipe and reinstall. Then once finished install your drivers, any OS updates, then the game and see if you still suffer from the same issues. If your problem persists then it’s highly probable that the problem is indeed with your hardware and not the OS.
6. Now it times to look at your hardware, my first step would be to use tools available online to help test some components before tearing into the system itself. I would start with memory (RAM) testing to see if any problems arise with your RAM, this will likely be the cheapest item to replace if a problem is found. Next I would look into tools that test hard drives, this can test for bad sectors, read/write issues but these tests can often be inconclusive without expensive software or hardware testing tools, but some of the basic tools can spot obvious problems.
7. Really the rest of the troubleshooting process is just a gamble made by informed guessing when hardware is involved unless you have more specialized tools laying around to help such as a voltmeter, PCI testing boards etc. I would start with the PSU, often one of the most overlooked components when troubleshooting gaming systems. If your PSU is failing or too small it can starve the system of power while gaming and cause problems like FPS issues, blue screens etc. Always look at the max Wattage/Amperage that an item can pull and then add up all your components and buy a PSU with at least 100-200w more than all of them combined, this ensures your system always has the power it needs and will allow for small upgrades in the future.
8. If after running through these steps you still haven’t found a culprit then I would suggest a newer video card that fits in your budget and hope that fixes the problem.

I hope this helps

#6 Delta66

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 07:28 AM

It helps. A nice sanity. Check as . I had a feeling it was underperforming. I think I an due for a full wipe and reload. Time to archive

#7 Delta66

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 03:19 PM

Ok, not on a mobile device now...
You guys have backed up what I was thinking. The card is not wiz-bang but I see others with similar specs doing much better.
Here is what I have found so far
1) I have a stuck 80mm fan and a bearing going on my PowerSupply Fan. Heat may be an issue! (Waiting for DHS to fix this ^_^ )
2) It has been over a year since my last OS Reload, and then it was on a standing drive rather than a full format.
3) My Hard drive is suspect, No failures detected on any testing, but it just dosen't feel right... MORE REASON TO ARCHIVE

I had a feeling I was going down the right track but I stopped doing hands on PC work and moved into pointy-haired boss territory a few years ago and wanted to run this buy everyone as I felt rusty.
Thanks





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