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#1 Exarch Levin

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:19 PM

So I haven't played since the Open Beta reset happened. That took away my Commando that I'd worked for, but left me with about 1.5 million C-bills. I'd "ground" up to 2 million.

I just logged on and played a great game, only to see that the only C bills I had were the 93K that I won in that match!

That is seriously not cool, grinding it out in a no-XP trial mech for a third time to get a non-trial mech fails. Why was my Open Beta reset money confiscated?

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:22 PM

The 29th was the actual start of OB. Everything got reset for the last time,,,,,maybe.

#3 Johnny Reb

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:24 PM

Everything got reset for Open Beta!

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:25 PM

Everyone was reset. I ground out 9.6 million C-bills in a trial Dragon to get my Atlas back. Stop whining.

#5 Lin Shai

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:29 PM

View PostExarch Levin, on 03 November 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

So I haven't played since the Open Beta reset happened. That took away my Commando that I'd worked for, but left me with about 1.5 million C-bills. I'd "ground" up to 2 million.

I just logged on and played a great game, only to see that the only C bills I had were the 93K that I won in that match!

That is seriously not cool, grinding it out in a no-XP trial mech for a third time to get a non-trial mech fails. Why was my Open Beta reset money confiscated?


There was exactly one start of Open Beta and one final reset: Last Monday, the 29th.

If you played after the servers came up on the 29th (~3pm PDT) and now are missing something, contact support.

Edited by Lin Shai, 03 November 2012 - 09:30 PM.


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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:34 PM

What they said... :P

#7 Exarch Levin

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:46 PM

So the reset that happened mere days before the open beta happened, the one that took our unlocked mechs and gave us a piddling amount of C-bills in return, wasn't the open beta reset? Well damn, had I known there would be a reset right after that reset I wouldn't have invested time in getting C-bills back.

What was the point of giving us any sort of "refund" on our C-Bills if we were going to go right back to zero only a few days later?

This brutal experience has reminded me just how lacking the trial mechs are. I'd almost forgotten.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:53 PM

View PostExarch Levin, on 03 November 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:

So the reset that happened mere days before the open beta happened, the one that took our unlocked mechs and gave us a piddling amount of C-bills in return, wasn't the open beta reset? Well damn, had I known there would be a reset right after that reset I wouldn't have invested time in getting C-bills back.

What was the point of giving us any sort of "refund" on our C-Bills if we were going to go right back to zero only a few days later?

This brutal experience has reminded me just how lacking the trial mechs are. I'd almost forgotten.


This experience should tell you to:

1) Read the forums when you're in a beta
2) Never do another beta again

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:59 PM

View PostExarch Levin, on 03 November 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:

So the reset that happened mere days before the open beta happened, the one that took our unlocked mechs and gave us a piddling amount of C-bills in return, wasn't the open beta reset? Well damn, had I known there would be a reset right after that reset I wouldn't have invested time in getting C-bills back.

What was the point of giving us any sort of "refund" on our C-Bills if we were going to go right back to zero only a few days later?

This brutal experience has reminded me just how lacking the trial mechs are. I'd almost forgotten.


That reset was supposed to fix a mechlab bug. They refunded the full amount for all your mechs that you had at the time. The second reset was the one on the 29th of October. That reset everything for everyone.

#10 Lin Shai

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 10:03 PM

View PostExarch Levin, on 03 November 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:

So the reset that happened mere days before the open beta happened, the one that took our unlocked mechs and gave us a piddling amount of C-bills in return, wasn't the open beta reset? Well damn, had I known there would be a reset right after that reset I wouldn't have invested time in getting C-bills back.

What was the point of giving us any sort of "refund" on our C-Bills if we were going to go right back to zero only a few days later?

This brutal experience has reminded me just how lacking the trial mechs are. I'd almost forgotten.


My guess is that they had no intention of going Open Beta at that point (the last patch). It was very sudden and smelled of someone in charge of the purse strings deciding it was time.

#11 Exarch Levin

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 10:14 PM

View PostFather Dougel, on 03 November 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

That reset was supposed to fix a mechlab bug. They refunded the full amount for all your mechs that you had at the time. The second reset was the one on the 29th of October. That reset everything for everyone.

That reset left me with no where near enough money to purchase even the cheapest Commando, and I had purchased the most expensive Commando variant.

So I got screwed, that's what you're telling me? That's what I thought.

Oh well, eventually I'll remember how to use the trial mechs again...

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 10:22 PM

View PostExarch Levin, on 03 November 2012 - 10:14 PM, said:

That reset left me with no where near enough money to purchase even the cheapest Commando, and I had purchased the most expensive Commando variant.

So I got screwed, that's what you're telling me? That's what I thought.

Oh well, eventually I'll remember how to use the trial mechs again...


In Closed Beta, you were testing the game for PGI. Any fun you got out of it was a bonus, but not the main objective. If you feel like you got screwed, stay away from Closed Alphas and Closed Betas in the future, because nothing will ever be set in stone, so to speak, while a game is in a closed testing phase.

Edited by Kaijin, 03 November 2012 - 10:22 PM.


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Posted 03 November 2012 - 10:32 PM

View PostExarch Levin, on 03 November 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

So I haven't played since the Open Beta reset happened.  That took away my Commando that I'd worked for, but left me with about 1.5 million C-bills.  I'd "ground" up to 2 million.

I just logged on and played a great game, only to see that the only C bills I had were the 93K that I won in that match!

That is seriously not cool, grinding it out in a no-XP trial mech for a third time to get a non-trial mech fails.  Why was my Open Beta reset money confiscated?
lol

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 10:40 PM

Yes, you've been screwed. Learn to expect it from this crowd, and expect a whole lot of apologists. I hope you enjoy grinding millions in the trial mechs so you can, after a week, play the game properly!

It's a wonder that the starting grind even exists. It denies one of the biggest attractions to the mechwarrior games for such a long boring slog- the mechlab. It's a sure-fire way to turn away newbies who probably don't even know there is customization.

#15 Lin Shai

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 10:43 PM

View Postthebraddigan, on 03 November 2012 - 10:40 PM, said:

Yes, you've been screwed. Learn to expect it from this crowd, and expect a whole lot of apologists. I hope you enjoy grinding millions in the trial mechs so you can, after a week, play the game properly!

It's a wonder that the starting grind even exists. It denies one of the biggest attractions to the mechwarrior games for such a long boring slog- the mechlab. It's a sure-fire way to turn away newbies who probably don't even know there is customization.


People who whine about something that $7 makes go away amuse me.

If you don't want to pay a dime to play the game, you spend the time. PGI isn't a charity.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 11:09 PM

View PostLin Shai, on 03 November 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

People who whine about something that $7 makes go away amuse me.

If you don't want to pay a dime to play the game, you spend the time. PGI isn't a charity.


There might be better ways to hook new players, etc...but I can't say I disagree with this post. How long does it take to make $7 at work?

#17 Manny Rhyde

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 11:12 PM

where's my money lebroski? thats what your thread reminds me of xD

#18 Muffinator

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 11:14 PM

Without wanting to sound rude it was very well explained in the patch notes and the email we got - worth keeping an eye on them for updates!

#19 Exarch Levin

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 11:14 PM

Well, that's an update email I didn't receive. I can't catch a break with this game it seems :P

The 2 rapid (almost back-to-back) resets, both of which took away what I'd worked for are what frustrate me here. If it had been one reset or there'd been more than a few days between resets things would be different. If I'd gotten the beaucoup of cash after the first reset (ie:not gotten screwed) I wouldn't have minded the 2nd one so much.

So now I know that the money is indeed supposed to be gone and that I was indeed screwed during the last reset before the beta reset. FWIW.

Edited by Exarch Levin, 03 November 2012 - 11:16 PM.


#20 Exarch Levin

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 11:53 PM

The problem is that 7 bucks doesn't make this problem go away. It could get me one of the lighter mechs (or 2 commandos), but then there's the irksome "Xbox problem" where I'll often have points left over, which I don't really care for. Additionally one of the Jenner variants would cost 14 bucks because 7 bucks leaves you 10 MC short. Having to overbuy MC to the tune of 1,240 isn't cool.

I'll have to play the game some more before I decide if I'm ready to invest some cash into it. So I'll be sampling this free-to-play title gratis for a bit longer. Right now it is tempting to throw down your advocated "7 bucks" to gain back the Commando as I was performing far better in it than in the trial mechs but I don't think that throwing down cash hot on the heels of these resets is something that will be truly beneficial.





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